On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 01:57:14PM -0400, Brad Maxwell wrote:
OK, I'm not just an innocent victim and I'm responsible for
putting my high performance sports car on the net but M1/ATT owns
the highway and they certainly have capabilities and facilities that
far outstrip what I have on my
Alex Hewitt USG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg, the best advice that you will get from me and others who
frequent this group is to invest in a firewall/router box. I use the
LinkSys BEFSR41 which has 4 10/100 ports but there are several other
manufacturers of these devices. They cost around
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:13:43PM -0500, Mansur, Warren wrote:
I suppose everyone has a different opinion on this, so I figure I might
as well share mine :-)
If a thief breaks into my car, and then uses it to run over and kill 10
people, am I responsible for the death of those 10 people?
Hey, I'm in. Just give me some warning and I'll cancel all business trips.
Hey, I'll even be happy to talk about what NOT to do :-)
Mark Komarinski wrote:
Another vote. I can demonstrate Coyote Linux (single floppy Linux
firewall) and maybe bring along my SMC Barricade box for demo as well.
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Subject: Re: A story and some advice.
Folks: First, I really appreciate all the feedback. Most has been
excellent.
About the only area that I fundamentally disagree with is sort of the
combination it's my fault / M1 - ATT is doing OK. Yes, I accept my
share
others :-)
-Warren
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From: Greg Kettmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 12:42 PM
To: David Roberts
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A story and some advice.
Folks: First, I really appreciate all the feedback
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Greg Kettmann wrote:
Yes, I accept my share of the responsibility but I really, REALLY think
that M1/ATT, who have the resources, should be doing something to try to
actually go after the crackers.
What do you suggest they do?
What makes you think they have the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The box isn't really more secure than Linux, its just that there's
fewer things to go wrong - and if someone does have an exploit
for a firmware bug, its usually fixed with the next powercycle.
It would be an equivalent to running
In a message dated: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:13:43 CDT
Mansur, Warren said:
If a thief breaks into my car, and then uses it to run over and kill 10
people, am I responsible for the death of those 10 people? The police
may at first suspect me because my car was used, but as soon as they
find out my
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The box isn't really more secure than Linux, its just that there's
fewer things to go wrong - and if someone does have an exploit
for a firmware bug, its usually fixed with the next powercycle.
It would be an equivalent to running
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, mike ledoux wrote:
can and you keep on top of it. If you don't want your salami to be
used to bludgeon someone to death, make sure people with the
malicious intnet can't at it. So lock up your salami dammit :)
Salami wants to be free.
Open Source salami? I
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Subject: RE: A story and some advice.
I suppose everyone has a different opinion on this, so I figure I might
as well share mine :-)
If a thief
In a message dated: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:23:26 EDT
Tilly, Lawrence said:
Ok...WAY out of context, but I think THAT would make for an interesting
bumper sticker
Lock up your salami, dammit!
I knew that statement would get some attention, any one .sig'ed me
yet ;)
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Seeya,
Paul
Folks: First, I really appreciate all the feedback. Most has been excellent.
About the only area that I fundamentally disagree with is sort of the
combination it's my fault / M1 - ATT is doing OK. Yes, I accept my share
of the responsibility but I really, REALLY think that M1/ATT, who have
I'm confused here. Isn't that what Linux is supposed to do with IP*
(name of the month)?
Yes.
Why is this box more secure than Linux?
Not necessarily so. It's less complex than linux. It is not actually
running any services, with the exception of an embedded web browser if
you allow
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Mark Komarinski wrote:
I can demonstrate Coyote Linux (single floppy Linux firewall) ...
This I would be more interested in. I can get a dedicated SOHO firewall at
Staples. Finding the time to check out something like Coyote is harder. :-)
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Ben Scott [EMAIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The box isn't really more secure than Linux, its just that there's
fewer things to go wrong - and if someone does have an exploit
for a firmware bug, its usually fixed with the next powercycle.
It would be an equivalent to running something like the Linux Router
12:42 PM
To: David Roberts
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A story and some advice.
Folks: First, I really appreciate all the feedback. Most has been
excellent.
About the only area that I fundamentally disagree with is sort of the
combination it's my fault / M1 - ATT
Greg Kettmann wrote:
Well, I talked to their legal department, a million times better than
their security department and it appears we can work something out. So,
my purpose here is two things. One, to vent a little (thanks :-) ) and
two to ask about known vulnerabilities. My machine is
I don't know about that. I seem to remember a certain ADSL company
saying that their ADSL routers were impervious to penetration. Until
about two weeks ago, that is ;-) Besides, why spend the money when it
can all be done for free, and an added advantage is that you can learn a
little bit
For someone like Greg that isn't going to ride herd on his environment
nightly, I'd recommend dropping a whopping $125 on an appliance from
LinkSys, SMC, DLink or NetGear. Filter out everything and check your
vendor's web site weekly for updates.
I did my own IPMasq/IPChains Linux box for a
Hi Greg,
Check out Smoothwall (www.smoothwall.org). It's built for doing firewalling,
and has web interfaces for setting everything up. Firewalls don't need to
be all that powerful, so a lightweight firewall config is going to be
best for you.
-Mark
Greg Kettmann wrote:
I'm an Architect,
He did say he was an Architect == PHB? ;-)
-Original Message-
From: Kenneth E. Lussier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 4:57 PM
To: Alex Hewitt USG
Cc: Greg Kettmann; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A story and some advice.
I don't know about that. I seem
In a message dated 4/24/2001 4:48:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Greg, the best advice that you will get from me and others who frequent this
group is to invest in a firewall/router box. I use the LinkSys BEFSR41
which
has
4 10/100 ports but there are several
Greg,
If you still have any, I would like to see what the logs look like. This
would be a big advantage in figuring out where you went wrong the first
time, and invaluable in preventing the same mistake from being made
again.
Kenny
Greg Kettmann wrote:
I'm an Architect, which means I
At 2:56 PM -0400 4/24/01, Greg Kettmann wrote:
Also, one other vent. I wish those jerks at M1, instead of pulling the
plug on my account, would first trace the darn thing and go try to catch
the bad guy instead of harassing their customers. Then they can pull
the plug and give me a chance to
(mine's a Linksys
DSL/cable router but there are others available).
-Warren
-Original Message-
From: Hewitt, Alexander
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 4:48 PM
To: Greg Kettmann
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: A story and some advice.
Greg, the best advice that you will get from me
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