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From: Rich Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rich C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: linux/windows security
Yes, however you are (I feel) missing a very important point. If you have
an SMC/Linksys
I also have to weigh in on this thread. Comparing RedHat to Debian is
like comparing Campbell's soup to home cooking. Or maybe it's more
like comparing Velveeta to a fine Brie. Some people recoil at the
fact that there are trade-offs to be made when profitability and time
to market become
Paul Iadonisi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The big thing the frames support. I expect that when links has ssl support
that lynx will go a way. I don't think Red Hat has a problem with lynx, but
the frames support is probably what prompted it to migrate to links.
There's also table support:
I am just getting caught up on my Email and while I *was* going to just
keep reading this thread, I decided to jump in...
Ray Bowles wrote:
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I have to disagree and without naming names I know Linux users that will
swear by WinXP and MS's latest development suite. Myself
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 17:30, you wrote:
In a message dated: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:48:57 EST
Thomas M. Albright said:
What home user needs their machine up for 100 days straight?
I do. My home is networked. To get onto the internet everyyone goes
through 192.168.0.1. If that machine
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From: Tom Rauschenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: linux/windows security
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 17:30, you wrote:
In a message dated: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:48:57 EST
Thomas M
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Tom Rauschenbach wrote:
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 17:30, you wrote:
In a message dated: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 22:48:57 EST
Thomas M. Albright said:
What home user needs their machine up for 100 days straight?
I do. My home is networked. To get onto the internet
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 18:43, you wrote:
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From: Tom Rauschenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: linux/windows security
On Wednesday 13 February 2002 17:30, you wrote:
In a message
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Rich C wrote:
I thought just about everyone did this. :) I was going to build a Linux
router, until I found my SMC unit: a router/firewall/DHCP server/4-port
switch that uses hardly any power, is always on so I don't have to be
powered up any more to get the rest of
When I 1st got my cable modem 2 years ago, they didn't have those nice
little NAT/routers. I recommend them to others. I've seen them with
print servers 802.11b wireless.
But I had a PC (p166) that I could use. And lots of extra NIC cards.
I went to a web site (linux-firewalls.com?)
I hear you on the non-i386 side. My firewall for three years was an 300MHz
Alphait's good to know that even if they do break in somehow, they
won't have any idea what to do next (just try and use that precompiled
rootkit!). Unfortunatly the 3Com ISDN modem decided it was time to check
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 02:27:59AM -0500, Ray Bowles wrote:
*** On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 1:24pm Derek D. Martin shared this with the class::
Ray, I really hate when people do this. The numbers presented are
very deceptive, because for Microsoft products, the numbers include
ONLY the core
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Ray Bowles wrote:
*** On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 1:24pm Derek D. Martin shared this with the class::
I completely understand, but I was refering more to the relation of
problems in RedHat's CRAP distro rather than the Microsoft
numbers. Everybody knows how the results are
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Ray Bowles wrote:
Now compare RH's numbers to BSD or Debian.
Well, since both Red Hat and Debian package the same software, one can
only conclude that Red Hat is more vigilant about finding and fixing
problems than Debian is.
--
Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ray Bowles said:
*** On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 1:24pm Derek D. Martin shared this with the class::
Interesting attribution... ;-)
Ray, I really hate when people do this. The numbers presented are
very deceptive, because for Microsoft products, the numbers include
ONLY the core OS. Linux
*** On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 at 4:20am Paul Iadonisi shared this with the class::
Ray,
I was going to let this go and not participate in this thread, but this
set me off. Later in the above paragraph you state that you are not trying
to start a distro war, but just a few lines previous you
*** On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 at 5:32pm Paul Iadonisi shared this with the class::
Today, if you look at the default install for 7.2, for example, you'll
find that Red Hat has take several very good steps at making the default
install more secure. They don't start services unnecessarily that
*** On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 at 6:23pm Derek D. Martin shared this with the class::
If you limited the advisories to just those programs, you'd be down to
a handful of them... I'll also point out that it's much easier to
find (AND FIX) these things on Linux, because the source code is
available,
On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Ray Bowles wrote:
*** On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 at 2:26pm Derek D. Martin shared this with the class::
product that won't crash every 30 minutes on a fair number of
configurations. Their operating system crashes often and takes all
your work with it, even under virtually
On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 11:17:47PM -0500, Ray Bowles wrote:
*** On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 at 5:32pm Paul Iadonisi shared this with the class::
Today, if you look at the default install for 7.2, for example, you'll
find that Red Hat has take several very good steps at making the default
*** On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 at 10:48pm Thomas M. Albright shared this with the...:
I do. My home is networked. To get onto the internet everyyone goes
through 192.168.0.1. If that machine is turned off, there is no internet
avilable.
Thankfully Linux has this capability and for the average user
*** On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 at 10:53pm Paul Iadonisi shared this with the class::
The big thing the frames support. I expect that when links has ssl support
that lynx will go a way. I don't think Red Hat has a problem with lynx, but
the frames support is probably what prompted it to migrate
- Original Message -
From: Thomas M. Albright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: linux/windows security
And yet my girlfriend, who has XP on a p4 1+G with 512M of ram has to
reboot everytime she puts in a game
- Original Message -
From: Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rich Cloutier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: linux/windows security
While I have had driver issues in the past, I do not find, in my
experience, that they have caused
*** On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 1:24pm Derek D. Martin shared this with the class::
Ray, I really hate when people do this. The numbers presented are
very deceptive, because for Microsoft products, the numbers include
ONLY the core OS. Linux distributions come with a multitude of
I completely
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