Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:48:16 EST Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20 said: Paul Lussier said: What makes the Alpha systems proprietary, I guess commercial level would be a more apropos description, is that it has things like EEPROMs. Well, I think we're in danger of getting into

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 10:49:23 EST Rich Payne said: shameless plug This is one thing I've learned to like about Alphas.. /shameless plug Right, theyy fall into the category of Proprietary Hardware :) - JumpStart is a much more mature product and therefore a lot

SuSE Sales in US

2001-03-16 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20
This was sent to me internally, but cites external/public references; I'm kind of assuming (as dangerous for me as that is...) that Macmillan is the Mandrake distribution that Macmillan is marketing (well). From SuSE...Recent PCData report on retail Linux (x86) kit sales in the US.

RE: first LAN

2001-03-16 Thread Mansur, Warren
Forgot to mention that you can buy the Linksys DSL router or a switch at Best Buy, and probably any other store that sells computer products. For an ethernet card, what I always do is go to http://www.redhat.com/support/hardware/, and print out the list of supported ethernet cards. Then, I buy

RE: first LAN

2001-03-16 Thread Mansur, Warren
Hi, Do you want DSL or a cable modem? If so I recommend getting LinkSys DSL/Cable router. It acts as a 10/100 switch internally. It also acts as a gateway to your DSL modem/Cable modem. Here's how it works (overview): 1) The linksys router either uses dhcp or a static address to gain a

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Derek Martin
Rich Payne said: Add to that the fact you can completly control the machine over ther serial port, and I rarely have to get up out of my ofice (yes, I am lazy). This *can* be done on all x86 machines too, once you get past the BIOS. BIOS control can also be had on machines which support

Re: SuSE Sales in US

2001-03-16 Thread Derek Martin
Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20 said: This was sent to me internally, but cites external/public references; I'm kind of assuming (as dangerous for me as that is...) that Macmillan is the Mandrake distribution that Macmillan is marketing (well). I'm not sure that's the case... I've bought

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:05:01 EST Rich Payne said: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: Only if you think that DE500 (aka Tulip based) and Intel EEpro100 network cards using a PCI bus are propriatary :) I mean the system as a whole. The proprietary-ness comes from the

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Joel Martin
When I worked as a network administrator at my university we developed an imaging system called JACAL that does this same task except it does it for Windows NT and Linux and can create dual-boot systems. It's been in use there for a couple of years. Basic idea, put a floppy in the drive, type in

Re: SuSE Sales in US

2001-03-16 Thread Derek Martin
Ken D'Ambrosio said: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Derek Martin wrote: I'm not sure that's the case... I've bought RH distributions from MacMillan before, so it may be multiple distros... Really? Wow... do they do other distributions, too? I have to admit, I think they do a reasonably good

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Greg Kettmann
Sure, sorry. PXE is Intel's Pre Execution Environment. In the past it really only applied to network boots. As such we had to use something called BPBatch. Just recently though they've allowed booting to the hard drive. Basically, when the machine boots it, before it loads the OS, it goes up

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:48:35 EST Greg Kettmann said: We use RH's Kickstart and PXE Linux to avoid the diskette problem and to make decisions at boot time as to whether we'd like to boot across a network or from the local hard drive. [...snip...] PXE Linux (or even just PXE)

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Paul Lussier
In a message dated: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 12:02:09 EST Ken D'Ambrosio said: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: Right, so we just need more people running Linux on desktops in large corporations :) Kickstart is widely used at Cisco -- most all of the print servers are installed with it, and

Anti-FUD

2001-03-16 Thread Jeffry Smith
One charge leveled against Open Source is that it's just a bunch of college kids hacking. I knew I'd seen the article somewhere that refutes that, and here it is: http://www2.linuxjournal.com/lj-issues/issue57/2931.html Note not only the education and years of experience, but that 1/3 of the

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Rich Payne
Now, if they were to add features to their system which did not exist from any other vendor, then that would be *really* proprietary. I disagree with that. If we were to do something and not tell anyone else how to do it, then it would be proprietary. If we added a feature and it

Gathering requirements from sys. admins for systems management to ol for Linux

2001-03-16 Thread Alicia Brown
My name is Alicia Brown and I work in product marketing gathering requirements from system administrators to build a systems management tool on the Linux platform. I am looking to talk to Linux system administrators about the pains they expereince when they adminster Linux servers in a

IBM's Linux Watch

2001-03-16 Thread Jeffry Smith
http://www.freeos.com/articles/3800/ Interesting article (with picture!) on IBM's watch that runs Linux. Even more interesting - It's running X! Also note the international development - they had guys from the US, India, and Japan working on this. jeff

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Jeffry Smith
Check out: http://www.acl.lanl.gov/linuxbios/index.html (Disclaimer, I haven't actually tried it) jeff --- Jeffry Smith Technical Sales Consultant Mission Critical Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone:603.930.9739

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Ken D'Ambrosio
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: Right, so we just need more people running Linux on desktops in large corporations :) Kickstart is widely used at Cisco -- most all of the print servers are installed with it, and I believe the Linux desktop rollout now uses it, as well, though I left

Re: first LAN

2001-03-16 Thread Richard Soule
Tom, I ran across this site the other day. I do not accept responsibility for anyone who may be offended by the content. I will however say that the technical content is very good. The site is the Coffee Cup Club: http://www.c-cup.com. They have supermodels explain how to set up and

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Mark Komarinski
Paul Lussier wrote: In a message dated: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:05:01 EST Rich Payne said: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: Only if you think that DE500 (aka Tulip based) and Intel EEpro100 network cards using a PCI bus are propriatary :) I mean the system as a whole. The

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Rich Payne
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: In a message dated: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 11:05:01 EST Rich Payne said: On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Paul Lussier wrote: Only if you think that DE500 (aka Tulip based) and Intel EEpro100 network cards using a PCI bus are propriatary :) I mean the system as

RE: first LAN

2001-03-16 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
Thanks to Warren Mansur for his useful answer, but I'm not looking for an internet connectivity solution (well that's not true; I am but that's related to the LAN issue). My question is really limited to just the LAN. Here in Peterborough, Interent access options are pretty much limited to

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Greg Kettmann
We use RH's Kickstart and PXE Linux to avoid the diskette problem and to make decisions at boot time as to whether we'd like to boot across a network or from the local hard drive. This allows us to manage many nodes in a cluster and easily reconfigure a cluster in a matter of minutes. SuSE has

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Rich Payne
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20 wrote: Paul Lussier said: What makes the Alpha systems proprietary, I guess commercial level would be a more apropos description, is that it has things like EEPROMs. Well, I think we're in danger of getting into a semantic battle

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG ZKO3-3/S20
Paul Lussier said: What makes the Alpha systems proprietary, I guess commercial level would be a more apropos description, is that it has things like EEPROMs. Well, I think we're in danger of getting into a semantic battle here, but I'd like to clarify things a bit. The various

Re: Mass Installation

2001-03-16 Thread Rich Payne
- RH requires a boot floppy because PC's generally don't have EEPROMs on them and every PC is different shameless plug This is one thing I've learned to like about Alphas..the console firmware has drivers for NIC cards and can netboot the linux kerneland that kernel file

first LAN

2001-03-16 Thread Tom Rauschenbach
Now that my new Slackware machine is up and running everything my old machine did (and I'm *this* close to getting Oracle up) I want to build my first LAN. I guessing I need a hub and a couple of NICs. Eventually there will be at least one Windows machine on the LAN but for now it will