RE: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-22 Thread Bayard Coolidge USG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said, in part: On a side note, speaking of hardware, I'd like to mention a very disturbing experience I had at a computer show in Salem N.H. yesterday Complain to ncshows.com - quickly and thoroughly. They've been known to kick out disreputable vendors, believe it or not.

Re: Shell scripting tips and tricks (was: I need a date! )

2002-04-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
Actually, [ is a link to test. Linux uses a symlink, some Unixes use hard links. -rwxr-xr-x1 root root17496 Sep 20 2001 /usr/bin/test lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Dec 1 13:42 /usr/bin/[ - test And yes, BASH has it built in, but on some of the older Bourne shells

Re: Shell scripting tips and tricks (was: I need a date! )

2002-04-22 Thread Tom Buskey
Jerry Feldman said: Actually, [ is a link to test. Linux uses a symlink, some Unixes use hard links. -rwxr-xr-x1 root root17496 Sep 20 2001 /usr/bin/test lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Dec 1 13:42 /usr/bin/[ - test And yes, BASH has it built in, but on some of

Re: Shell scripting tips and tricks (was: I need a date! )

2002-04-22 Thread Steven W. Orr
=Jerry Feldman said: =Actually, [ is a link to test. Linux uses a symlink, some Unixes use hard =links. =-rwxr-xr-x1 root root17496 Sep 20 2001 /usr/bin/test =lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 Dec 1 13:42 /usr/bin/[ - test = =And yes, BASH has it built in, but on some

Re: Shell scripting tips and tricks (was: I need a date! )

2002-04-22 Thread Karl J. Runge
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Tom Buskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I said in not so many words, modern shells have it built in. I don't consider Bourne a modern shell. I believe Jerry is saying some of the newer implementations of /bin/sh have [ as a builtin. For example, [ has been a builtin on

Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Brian Chabot
Hey, all - I'm attempting to write a script to put in cron.weekly that will find the 25 users who use the most disk space and email them a warning. My relatively simple question is: Is there anything in bash that is the equivelent to the old basic mid/left/right way of cutting down a variable?

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Michael O'Donnell
DISKHOG=`echo 1234M /home/USER | sed -e 's;^.*/;;'` * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body.

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Ben Boulanger
How about something like: du -sb ./*|sort -g|tail|sed 's/\.\///'|awk '{print $2}' to get the names... and then wrap it up in a mail command... it's not a bash script since it forks a few times, but it's a quick'n'dirty. Ben On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, Brian Chabot wrote: Hey, all - I'm

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Brian Chabot
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I said: in other words, given: 1234M /home/USER I want USER so as to then turn around and email that user. (I already have way of removing non-user directories in /home). Woo hoo! Thanks for all the lightning fast help. I already had most

Re: Shell scripting tips and tricks (was: I need a date! )

2002-04-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
That is also correct. I had forgotten. But, my original point is that it is probably better to specify the full pathname of a command. X=$(/bin/ls) will generally result in identical results as: PATH=/bin:$(PATH) X=$(ls) But, specifying the full pathname also forces the command to be executed

Re: Shell scripting tips and tricks (was: I need a date! )

2002-04-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
Yes, but several Unix systems supply an old style Bourne SH as well as a POSIX shell (essentially ksh scaled down) and ksh. KSH implemented the [[ as a way of internalizing the condition. For the most part, the syntax will work in most Bourne derived shells. if [ condition ] then #

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Bob Bell
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 12:16:15PM -0400, Brian Chabot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I said: in other words, given: 1234M /home/USER I want USER so as to then turn around and email that user. (I already have way of removing non-user

Re: Shell scripting tips and tricks (was: I need a date! )

2002-04-22 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Jerry Feldman hath spake thusly: Actually, [ is a link to test. Linux uses a symlink, some Unixes use hard links. -rwxr-xr-x1 root root17496 Sep 20 2001 /usr/bin/test lrwxrwxrwx1 root root

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread pll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In a message dated: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:03:32 EDT Bob Bell said: Look at the bash man page for '#', '##', '%', and '%%'. Are these built-ins also available in the real Bourne Shell, and/or ksh? Or

RE: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Mansur, Warren
Yuck, yuck, yuck! It looks like everyone was pointing out ways to use sed to accomplish this. Now, sed may give you extra power, but when writing shell scripts, I prefer to avoid using external commands where possible. To that extent, consider: $ foo=1234M /home/USER $ echo

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread John Abreau
Mansur, Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know how to loop through each line instead, so that the output would be line 1 line 2 ? Thanks. echo -ne 'line 1\nline 2\n' | while read foo ; do echo $foo ; done -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux Unix ICQ 28611923

RE: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
I have not tried it, but what about setting IFS to newline only. n 22 Apr 2002 at 14:42, Mansur, Warren wrote: Does anyone know how to loop through each line instead, so that the output would be line 1 line 2 ? Thanks. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Associate Director Boston Linux

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Bob Bell
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 02:15:14PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 14:03:32 EDT Bob Bell said: Look at the bash man page for '#', '##', '%', and '%%'. Are these built-ins also available in the real Bourne Shell, and/or ksh? Or

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Michael O'Donnell
it has a subtle scoping gotcha that drove me nuts the first time I tripped over it - anybody know what I'm referring to? No? Then how about this? result=badness# init with failure default spewSomeKindOfOutput | while read input do result=goodness done echo $result

RE: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Mansur, Warren
No? Then how about this? result=badness# init with failure default spewSomeKindOfOutput | while read input do result=goodness done echo $result What is the output? badness Lemme guess. The pipe to the while actually creates a child process, and a child

RE: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Mansur, Warren
echo -ne 'line 1\nline 2\n' | while read foo ; do echo $foo ; done Thanks to all for their answers. I've always wanted to do this but didn't know how until now. Works like a charm! Warren * To unsubscribe from this list, send

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Kevin D. Clark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael O'Donnell) writes: it has a subtle scoping gotcha that drove me nuts the first time I tripped over it - anybody know what I'm referring to? No? Then how about this? result=badness# init with failure default spewSomeKindOfOutput | while read input

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Bob Bell
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 05:15:00PM -0400, Mansur, Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No? Then how about this? result=badness# init with failure default spewSomeKindOfOutput | while read input do result=goodness done echo $result What is the output?

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 2:15pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they only exist within bash, then I wouldn't advocate their use if you're goal is portable shell code. If portability is a concern, depending on the environment, it is sometimes easier to install the GNU tools everywhere than try to

Re: IRobot

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 21 Apr 2002, at 10:44pm, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: Speaking of um, er, Iced Tea, an completely unrelated to the subject of robots, I thought many people would get a kick out this: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/looflirpa/beer.shtml Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. ;-) -- Ben Scott

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Jerry Feldman
In general, I try to write my scripts portable so that I can use them on other platforms. In the past 5 years, I have had jobs with Tru64 Unix, HP- UX (10.20 and 11.x), Solaris (7 and 8), and Linux (Debian, Red Hat and SuSE). Most of my personal scripts are small and work across platform. My

AMD vs Intel (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 21 Apr 2002, at 3:38pm, Rich Cloutier wrote: 1. If your heatsink falls off or your CPU fan dies, the processor just slows down and stops. I doesn't die like AMD processors do. If the CPU fan dies, or you power-on without a heatsink, an AMD system should halt safely. The heatsink falls

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 21 Apr 2002, at 3:38pm, Rich Cloutier wrote: Keep in mind that ANY new motherboard you buy today will have NO ISA slots. Not strictly true; you can still find them. However, ISA has become a specialty item, and actually commands a higher price because of that. I never go to hardware

Memory types (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 21 Apr 2002, at 12:15pm, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: One of the problems is that there seem to be many different levels of DDR (ranging from PC1600 to PC3200). Heh. Well, PC66, PC100, and PC133 all refer to the clock speed of the bus driving the memory. 66 MHz, 100 MHz, and 133 MHz.

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 21 Apr 2002, at 12:15pm, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: ... hardware ... point me in the right directions ... http://www.anandtech.com/ http://www.tomshardware.com http://www.amdmb.com http://www.maximumpc.com I am looking to buy a new motherboard ... http://www.asus.com

Re: AMD vs Intel (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-22 Thread Rich C
- Original Message - From: Benjamin Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greater NH Linux Users' Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:05 PM Subject: AMD vs Intel (was: Hardware Pointers) On 21 Apr 2002, at 3:38pm, Rich Cloutier wrote: 1. If your heatsink falls off or your

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-22 Thread James R. Van Zandt
Ben Boulanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm quite happy with my AMD Athlon boxes. I'm thinking about a new machine too. What motherboard do you have? Would that be your recommendation now for an Athlon? For dual Athlons? What's a good video card that has solid support in XFree86?

Re: AMD vs Intel (was: Hardware Pointers)

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 6:12pm, Rich C wrote: However, powering the chip on with no heatsink is not really any different than removing the heatsink from a running processor. I believe the theory was that there were in fact relevant differences, but I sure don't know what they were supposed

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, at 9:19pm, James R. Van Zandt wrote: What motherboard do you have? I have an Epox EP-8K7A+, and I have been very happy with it. No problems to speak of. Board design and layout is impressive. The manual, while still lacking in the detail I really want (remember when

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-22 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier
On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 21:19, James R. Van Zandt wrote: Ben Boulanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm quite happy with my AMD Athlon boxes. I'm thinking about a new machine too. What motherboard do you have? Would that be your recommendation now for an Athlon? For dual Athlons? I don't

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-22 Thread Benjamin Scott
On 22 Apr 2002, at 8:38pm, Kenneth E. Lussier wrote: I don't know that I would spend the money on a dual Athlon board. Does anyone really need that much power in a desktop system? As alway, it depends. If you compile code (i.e., software development) on a regular basis, two CPUs is

Re: (OT) Hardware Pointers

2002-04-22 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Kenneth E. Lussier hath spake thusly: On Mon, 2002-04-22 at 21:19, James R. Van Zandt wrote: I'm thinking about a new machine too. What motherboard do you have? Would that be your recommendation now for an Athlon? For

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Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Kevin D. Clark hath spake thusly: result=badness# init with failure default spewSomeKindOfOutput | while read input do result=goodness done echo $result What is the output? In

Re: Another (simpler) bash scripting question...

2002-04-22 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Benjamin Scott hath spake thusly: If portability is a concern, depending on the environment, it is sometimes easier to install the GNU tools everywhere than try to craft something that works on all the native tools.

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