Re: dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS or Fedora?

2005-12-28 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:10:44 -0500 Zhao Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Right now I'm having Red Hat Enterprise AS installed on my desktop computer (which has only one hard drive). I'm wondering if I can also put Fedora on it so that I can dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS

Re: dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS or Fedora?

2005-12-28 Thread Fred
On Wednesday 28 December 2005 01:10, Zhao Peng wrote: Hi, Right now I'm having Red Hat Enterprise AS installed on my desktop computer (which has only one hard drive). I'm wondering if I can also put Fedora on it so that I can dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS or Fedora. I know

Re: [OT] Grand Unified Theory of Computer Suckage (fnord)

2005-12-28 Thread Fred
On Tuesday 27 December 2005 20:42, Jon maddog Hall wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Sometimes it's like having your entrails ripped out with a rusty pitchfork and ground into the mud by a herd of stampeding llamas with mad cow disease. Let's see. Let's take about several billions lines of

Re: [OT] Grand Unified Theory of Computer Suckage (fnord)

2005-12-28 Thread Mike
There are two ways of constructing a piece of software: One is to make it so simple that there are obviously no errors, and the other is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious errors. C. A. R. Hoare

Re: [OT] Grand Unified Theory of Computer Suckage (fnord)

2005-12-28 Thread hewitt_tech
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. - Gerald Weinberg ___ gnhlug-discuss mailing list gnhlug-discuss@mail.gnhlug.org

Re: [OT] Grand Unified Theory of Computer Suckage (fnord)

2005-12-28 Thread Tom Buskey
Programmers are optimists and design systems accordingly.

Re: [OT] Grand Unified Theory of Computer Suckage (fnord)

2005-12-28 Thread Bill McGonigle
On Dec 27, 2005, at 19:13, Ben Scott wrote: I'm wondering if there is a reason for this, or am I just living in the wrong quantum universe? Customers want features yesterday for free. I think that about covers it. Oh, and they have no idea how to calculate ongoing support costs. In

Re: dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS or Fedora?

2005-12-28 Thread Jerry Feldman
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:27:03 -0500 Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you need to install it to an existing drive with no free partitions, then you'll need to repartition that drive. There are ways of doing this under Linux, but I would not recommend this approach for a neophyte. Partition

Re: dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS or Fedora?

2005-12-28 Thread Ben Scott
On the sub-topic of partitions and dual-booting Red Hat derived Linuxes... I know recent releases of Fedora Core (FC3 and later, IIRC) default to using LVM for everything. I expect RHEL is going to go that route eventually, too (if they haven't already). So, if you're using LVM, the whole

Re: dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS or Fedora?

2005-12-28 Thread Dan Jenkins
Fred wrote: The quick answer to that is *yes*. You can, using GRUB, set up as many booting OSes as you like. If you need to install it to an existing drive with no free partitions, then you'll need to repartition that drive. There are ways of doing this under Linux, but I would not

Re: dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS or Fedora?

2005-12-28 Thread Ted Roche
On Dec 28, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Ben Scott wrote: -- Ben LVM LV VG PE, WTF? Scott Ben, I know you're likely up on all the LVM TLAs, but for those folks who'd want to know more, Bill Stearns did a great presentation of LVM at last month's Dartmouth - Lake Sunapee LUG meeting, and expressed

Re: dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS or Fedora?

2005-12-28 Thread Ben Scott
On 12/28/05, Dan Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Partition Magic (aka PQMagic) does not support ext3 filesystems ... ... PQMagic will no longer be updated, since it was bought out by Symantec ... Symantec still sells PartitionMagic as a current product. I don't know how often they update

Re: dual boot from either Red Hat Enterprise AS or Fedora?

2005-12-28 Thread Dan Jenkins
Ben Scott wrote: On 12/28/05, Dan Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Partition Magic (aka PQMagic) does not support ext3 filesystems ... ... PQMagic will no longer be updated, since it was bought out by Symantec ... Symantec still sells PartitionMagic as a current

Re: Help me avoid Exchange

2005-12-28 Thread Mark Gelinas
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:26:02 -0500, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point that Dan Jenkins raises WRT storage demands is a good one. Exchange storage tends to cost more then Unix mail storage. This is especially true if you're on Exchange Standard, which has a 16 GB limit (or 75 GB