Re: [hlds_linux] hide rules from server queries

2010-10-13 Thread Claudio Beretta
you can remove the NOTIFY flag from the convar, by recompiling the plugin or
by doing something like this

new Handle:cv = FindConVar(sm_hidden); new flags = GetConVarFlags(cv);
flags = ~FCVAR_NOTIFY; SetConVarFlags(cv, flags);

BTW, which are the server rules you think should be hidden? and why?
for instance if you want to hide sv_steamgroup and sv_tags just to protect
your steam group id, you are out of luck since this is replicated in the
additional info field of the A2S_INFO reply


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:00 AM, DreamsCN dream...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 There are information about how to query a server and get info,player
 and rules on this page
 http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Server_queries. My concern is
 some rules(Server Variables/cvars) shouldn't be public(non-players).
 HLSW and game-monitor.com can show most of the rules. Is there a way
 to blcok queries for some rules like sv_steamgroup and some cvars
 created by sourcemod plugins.
 Thanks.

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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-10-13 Thread Saint K .
Anyone else having crashing servers???

Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 440
Forcing breakpad minidump interfaces to load
Looking up breakpad interfaces from steamclient
Calling BreakpadMiniDumpSystemInit
Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(440)/version(4349)
PreMinidumpCallback: updating dump comment
Uploading dump (in-process) [proxy '']
/tmp/dumps/crash_20101013112830_1.dmp
Failed to send http request to http://crash.steampowered.com/submit, error: 
Failed to open/read local data from file/application
success = no
error:  Failed to open/read local data from file/application
/home/tf2_server1/orangebox/nemrun: line 500: 13432 Segmentation fault  
nice -n $NICENESS ./srcds_linux $SRCDSCMD


From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen 
[jas...@valvesoftware.com]
Sent: 13 October 2010 02:33
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 
server mailing list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

An optional update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific changes 
include:

- Fixed server crash caused by a Scout using the Sandman on an enemy Scout who 
has used Bonk!
- Made Ellis' Cap and the Frying Pan tradable
- Added Automatically respawn after loadout changes in respawn zones option 
to the Options-Multiplayer-Advanced dialog
- Fixed a problem with the Lugermorph model

Jason


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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-10-13 Thread clad iron
try it with out nemrun and see.
Your last line stats it's something to do with that script.

This would help narrow down the problem.


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote:

 Anyone else having crashing servers???

 Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 440
 Forcing breakpad minidump interfaces to load
 Looking up breakpad interfaces from steamclient
 Calling BreakpadMiniDumpSystemInit
 Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(440)/version(4349)
 PreMinidumpCallback: updating dump comment
 Uploading dump (in-process) [proxy '']
 /tmp/dumps/crash_20101013112830_1.dmp
 Failed to send http request to http://crash.steampowered.com/submit,
 error: Failed to open/read local data from file/application
 success = no
 error:  Failed to open/read local data from file/application
 /home/tf2_server1/orangebox/nemrun: line 500: 13432 Segmentation fault
  nice -n $NICENESS ./srcds_linux $SRCDSCMD

 
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen [
 jas...@valvesoftware.com]
 Sent: 13 October 2010 02:33
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 'Half-Life dedicated
 Win32 server mailing list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

 An optional update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
 changes include:

 - Fixed server crash caused by a Scout using the Sandman on an enemy Scout
 who has used Bonk!
 - Made Ellis' Cap and the Frying Pan tradable
 - Added Automatically respawn after loadout changes in respawn zones
 option to the Options-Multiplayer-Advanced dialog
 - Fixed a problem with the Lugermorph model

 Jason


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[hlds_linux] Segmentation Fault

2010-10-13 Thread David Keogh
Hello,

After quite a bit of googling I'm still stuck with a server that constant
quits with segmentation faults. Throws a segmentation fault as soon as a
client attempts to login.

I get this: ./hlds_run: line 321: 24527 Segmentation fault

Running on Debian 5 32bit.

Literally just installed the server, no mods installed at all.

Regards,
David
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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-10-13 Thread Saint K .
hi,

Thanks for the suggestion. Turns out it was an issue with SM, offsets changed.

Cheers,

From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of clad iron 
[cladi...@gmail.com]
Sent: 13 October 2010 11:56
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

try it with out nemrun and see.
Your last line stats it's something to do with that script.

This would help narrow down the problem.


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote:

 Anyone else having crashing servers???

 Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 440
 Forcing breakpad minidump interfaces to load
 Looking up breakpad interfaces from steamclient
 Calling BreakpadMiniDumpSystemInit
 Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(440)/version(4349)
 PreMinidumpCallback: updating dump comment
 Uploading dump (in-process) [proxy '']
 /tmp/dumps/crash_20101013112830_1.dmp
 Failed to send http request to http://crash.steampowered.com/submit,
 error: Failed to open/read local data from file/application
 success = no
 error:  Failed to open/read local data from file/application
 /home/tf2_server1/orangebox/nemrun: line 500: 13432 Segmentation fault
  nice -n $NICENESS ./srcds_linux $SRCDSCMD

 
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [
 hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen [
 jas...@valvesoftware.com]
 Sent: 13 October 2010 02:33
 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 'Half-Life dedicated
 Win32 server mailing list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
 Subject: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

 An optional update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
 changes include:

 - Fixed server crash caused by a Scout using the Sandman on an enemy Scout
 who has used Bonk!
 - Made Ellis' Cap and the Frying Pan tradable
 - Added Automatically respawn after loadout changes in respawn zones
 option to the Options-Multiplayer-Advanced dialog
 - Fixed a problem with the Lugermorph model

 Jason


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Re: [hlds_linux] Segmentation Fault

2010-10-13 Thread ics

 Propably incomplete installation, run the install with option -verify_all

-ics

13.10.2010 13:12, David Keogh kirjoitti:

Hello,

After quite a bit of googling I'm still stuck with a server that constant
quits with segmentation faults. Throws a segmentation fault as soon as a
client attempts to login.

I get this: ./hlds_run: line 321: 24527 Segmentation fault

Running on Debian 5 32bit.

Literally just installed the server, no mods installed at all.

Regards,
David
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Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

2010-10-13 Thread kama

Hi,

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=140490

Describes how this gets fixed.

/Bjorn

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Saint K. wrote:

 hi,

 Thanks for the suggestion. Turns out it was an issue with SM, offsets changed.

 Cheers,
 
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
 [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of clad iron 
 [cladi...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 13 October 2010 11:56
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

 try it with out nemrun and see.
 Your last line stats it's something to do with that script.

 This would help narrow down the problem.


 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Saint K. sai...@specialattack.net wrote:

  Anyone else having crashing servers???
 
  Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 440
  Forcing breakpad minidump interfaces to load
  Looking up breakpad interfaces from steamclient
  Calling BreakpadMiniDumpSystemInit
  Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(440)/version(4349)
  PreMinidumpCallback: updating dump comment
  Uploading dump (in-process) [proxy '']
  /tmp/dumps/crash_20101013112830_1.dmp
  Failed to send http request to http://crash.steampowered.com/submit,
  error: Failed to open/read local data from file/application
  success = no
  error:  Failed to open/read local data from file/application
  /home/tf2_server1/orangebox/nemrun: line 500: 13432 Segmentation fault
   nice -n $NICENESS ./srcds_linux $SRCDSCMD
 
  
  From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [
  hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen [
  jas...@valvesoftware.com]
  Sent: 13 October 2010 02:33
  To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'; 'Half-Life dedicated
  Win32 server mailing list'; 'hlds_annou...@list.valvesoftware.com'
  Subject: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
 
  An optional update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
  changes include:
 
  - Fixed server crash caused by a Scout using the Sandman on an enemy Scout
  who has used Bonk!
  - Made Ellis' Cap and the Frying Pan tradable
  - Added Automatically respawn after loadout changes in respawn zones
  option to the Options-Multiplayer-Advanced dialog
  - Fixed a problem with the Lugermorph model
 
  Jason
 
 
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Re: [hlds_linux] hide rules from server queries

2010-10-13 Thread realdreams
Thanks. Why some servers don't reply nextlevel(official l4d2 servers
do reply an empty filed nextlevel)? I also notice os field is always
linux, if it's a windows server, then there's no os field. Is it
possible to actually hide sv_steamgroup even it's in A2S_INFO?

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Claudio Beretta
beretta.clau...@gmail.com wrote:
 you can remove the NOTIFY flag from the convar, by recompiling the plugin or
 by doing something like this

 new Handle:cv = FindConVar(sm_hidden); new flags = GetConVarFlags(cv);
 flags = ~FCVAR_NOTIFY; SetConVarFlags(cv, flags);

 BTW, which are the server rules you think should be hidden? and why?
 for instance if you want to hide sv_steamgroup and sv_tags just to protect
 your steam group id, you are out of luck since this is replicated in the
 additional info field of the A2S_INFO reply


 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 2:00 AM, DreamsCN dream...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 There are information about how to query a server and get info,player
 and rules on this page
 http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Server_queries. My concern is
 some rules(Server Variables/cvars) shouldn't be public(non-players).
 HLSW and game-monitor.com can show most of the rules. Is there a way
 to blcok queries for some rules like sv_steamgroup and some cvars
 created by sourcemod plugins.
 Thanks.

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Re: [hlds_linux] hide rules from server queries

2010-10-13 Thread Claudio Beretta
Yes, you can always set sv_steamgroup to ...

The master servers and/or the players must read it in order to let players
find their steam group servers.
Valve should have used a public and private keys pair to identify steam
groups, but probably they didn't think this was going to be abused or they
were just lazy ;)



On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:15 PM, realdreams dream...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is it
 possible to actually hide sv_steamgroup even it's in A2S_INFO?

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[hlds_linux] anything wrong with l4d2 master server?

2010-10-13 Thread realdreams
Hi,
Last night I only have 45 l4d2 servers(both official and community
servers, including my own servers) listed in my server browser.
Usually there are around 1775 servers. I figured something was wrong
with master server. Can someone confirm this?

BTW since the dlc update, sometimes players get invisible. When this
happens, I can only see the weapon/medkit of survivors and special
infected including witch are completely invisible. I've also noticed
survivors without weapon(imagine in CS:S how players without weapons
look like..). Does it have something to do with the server?

Any information about when dedicated servers can run addons again?

Thanks.

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Re: [hlds_linux] anything wrong with l4d2 master server?

2010-10-13 Thread ics
 There was short outage on the Steam network yesterday, if you looked 
the list at that time, then it might be the reason. Never seen the 
survivors being invisible. If it's alt+tab related, try starting demo 
record (record blabla) and then stopping it (stop). It fixes tons of 
issues related to invisible players on Counter-Strike Source, Day of 
Defeat Source and Team Fortress 2. Since L4D2 is based on the same 
engine, it's priopably inherited into it too.


Just that, these problems have existed in TF2 over 1,5 years, where they 
first time surfaced and since then have been spreading to these other 
games. I'm sure Valve has looked into the matter but perhaps not found 
the culprit. Something happens on alt+tab and things just don't return 
to normal after that. Same issue can happen due to network lag and never 
returns to normal. Funny how demo record fixes it completely.


-ics


13.10.2010 19:02, realdreams kirjoitti:

Hi,
Last night I only have 45 l4d2 servers(both official and community
servers, including my own servers) listed in my server browser.
Usually there are around 1775 servers. I figured something was wrong
with master server. Can someone confirm this?

BTW since the dlc update, sometimes players get invisible. When this
happens, I can only see the weapon/medkit of survivors and special
infected including witch are completely invisible. I've also noticed
survivors without weapon(imagine in CS:S how players without weapons
look like..). Does it have something to do with the server?

Any information about when dedicated servers can run addons again?

Thanks.

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Re: [hlds_linux] anything wrong with l4d2 master server?

2010-10-13 Thread Brent Veal
I've had multiple players mention invisible survivors  tanks since the
Sacrifice update. Alt-tabbing or start/stoping a demo doesnt correct the
issue.


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:21 AM, ics i...@ics-base.net wrote:

  There was short outage on the Steam network yesterday, if you looked the
 list at that time, then it might be the reason. Never seen the survivors
 being invisible. If it's alt+tab related, try starting demo record (record
 blabla) and then stopping it (stop). It fixes tons of issues related to
 invisible players on Counter-Strike Source, Day of Defeat Source and Team
 Fortress 2. Since L4D2 is based on the same engine, it's priopably inherited
 into it too.

 Just that, these problems have existed in TF2 over 1,5 years, where they
 first time surfaced and since then have been spreading to these other games.
 I'm sure Valve has looked into the matter but perhaps not found the culprit.
 Something happens on alt+tab and things just don't return to normal after
 that. Same issue can happen due to network lag and never returns to normal.
 Funny how demo record fixes it completely.

 -ics


 13.10.2010 19:02, realdreams kirjoitti:

  Hi,
 Last night I only have 45 l4d2 servers(both official and community
 servers, including my own servers) listed in my server browser.
 Usually there are around 1775 servers. I figured something was wrong
 with master server. Can someone confirm this?

 BTW since the dlc update, sometimes players get invisible. When this
 happens, I can only see the weapon/medkit of survivors and special
 infected including witch are completely invisible. I've also noticed
 survivors without weapon(imagine in CS:S how players without weapons
 look like..). Does it have something to do with the server?

 Any information about when dedicated servers can run addons again?

 Thanks.

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Re: [hlds_linux] anything wrong with l4d2 master server?

2010-10-13 Thread Anthony Mattson
I noticed that my servers didn't show up in the list last night.  When I
checked last night, there were only a couple of dozen and they were all
valve servers.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM, realdreams dream...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Last night I only have 45 l4d2 servers(both official and community
 servers, including my own servers) listed in my server browser.
 Usually there are around 1775 servers. I figured something was wrong
 with master server. Can someone confirm this?

 BTW since the dlc update, sometimes players get invisible. When this
 happens, I can only see the weapon/medkit of survivors and special
 infected including witch are completely invisible. I've also noticed
 survivors without weapon(imagine in CS:S how players without weapons
 look like..). Does it have something to do with the server?

 Any information about when dedicated servers can run addons again?

 Thanks.

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[hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread tom n
Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.

Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got a link
sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite I had
realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on my
steam friends list..

Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined for sho.

Any ideas?

(Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread Marlon Almeida | CGBR
If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.


-Mensagem original-
De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom n
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.

Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got a link
sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite I had
realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on my
steam friends list..

Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined for sho.

Any ideas?

(Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread tom n
Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the technical side.
I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the whole ip
address but the link sent to me was along the lines of steam(company).com.cc
On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I guess..

hmm


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR 
mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com wrote:

 If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
 Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.


 -Mensagem original-
 De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom n
 Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
 Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

 Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.

 Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got a link
 sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite I had
 realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on my
 steam friends list..

 Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined for sho.

 Any ideas?

 (Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u guys.:)
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[hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts FYI

2010-10-13 Thread tom n
ouch
Another friend got a message from me on this

I know there are some folks who work for the steam corporation on this
forum.

www.steam-corporation.co.cc

is the address received in the message
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread Kyle Sanderson
There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam account email.

It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that seriously.
Kyle.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom n screwtop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the technical side.
 I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the whole ip
 address but the link sent to me was along the lines of steam(company).com.cc
 On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I guess..

 hmm


 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR 
 mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com wrote:

 If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
 Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.


 -Mensagem original-
 De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom n
 Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
 Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

 Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.

 Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got a link
 sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite I had
 realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on my
 steam friends list..

 Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined for sho.

 Any ideas?

 (Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread Shane Arnold
 I think you guys need to keep in mind they are primarily a game 
developer. Their interest is in developing games, not necessarily 
concentrating on the myriad of security aspects there are. They aren't 
Microsoft.


However I agree, to implement a verification function which can be 
undone using a tool is worrying.


I'm sure they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix.

On 14/10/2010 11:29 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam account email.

It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that seriously.
Kyle.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom nscrewtop...@gmail.com  wrote:

Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the technical side.
I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the whole ip
address but the link sent to me was along the lines of steam(company).com.cc
On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I guess..

hmm


On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR
mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com  wrote:


If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.


-Mensagem original-
De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom n
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.

Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got a link
sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite I had
realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on my
steam friends list..

Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined for sho.

Any ideas?

(Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread 1nsane
They are also a publisher of games, security should be a priority.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.auwrote:

  I think you guys need to keep in mind they are primarily a game developer.
 Their interest is in developing games, not necessarily concentrating on the
 myriad of security aspects there are. They aren't Microsoft.

 However I agree, to implement a verification function which can be undone
 using a tool is worrying.

 I'm sure they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix.


 On 14/10/2010 11:29 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

 There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam account email.

 It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that seriously.
 Kyle.

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom nscrewtop...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the technical
 side.
 I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the whole ip
 address but the link sent to me was along the lines of
 steam(company).com.cc
 On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I guess..

 hmm


 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR
 mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com  wrote:

  If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
 Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.


 -Mensagem original-
 De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom n
 Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
 Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

 Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.

 Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got a
 link
 sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite I
 had
 realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on my
 steam friends list..

 Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined for
 sho.

 Any ideas?

 (Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u
 guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread Gene H
and they are a platform provider.
Shootjust imagine the hoopla that would exist if *pple's itunes or App
Store had security holes like this

G.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:

 They are also a publisher of games, security should be a priority.

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.au
 wrote:

   I think you guys need to keep in mind they are primarily a game
 developer.
  Their interest is in developing games, not necessarily concentrating on
 the
  myriad of security aspects there are. They aren't Microsoft.
 
  However I agree, to implement a verification function which can be undone
  using a tool is worrying.
 
  I'm sure they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix.
 
 
  On 14/10/2010 11:29 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
 
  There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam account
 email.
 
  It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that seriously.
  Kyle.
 
  On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom nscrewtop...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the technical
  side.
  I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the whole ip
  address but the link sent to me was along the lines of
  steam(company).com.cc
  On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I
 guess..
 
  hmm
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR
  mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com  wrote:
 
   If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
  Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.
 
 
  -Mensagem original-
  De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom n
  Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
  Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
  Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts
 
  Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.
 
  Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got a
  link
  sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite I
  had
  realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on
 my
  steam friends list..
 
  Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined for
  sho.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  (Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u
  guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread Don P
Well it requires people like us to tell them about the exploit in detail not
just hey I heard from my mothers brothers sister hairdress that Valve can be
hacked, that doesnt help fix the issues
If you are aware of a real exploit send it to valve and give them time to
fix it before posting it here other than maybe a generic hey I found this,
too many people trolling looking for things to use ingame here.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Gene H geneharde...@gmail.com wrote:

 and they are a platform provider.
 Shootjust imagine the hoopla that would exist if *pple's itunes or App
 Store had security holes like this

 G.

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:

  They are also a publisher of games, security should be a priority.
 
  On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Shane Arnold clontar...@iinet.net.au
  wrote:
 
I think you guys need to keep in mind they are primarily a game
  developer.
   Their interest is in developing games, not necessarily concentrating on
  the
   myriad of security aspects there are. They aren't Microsoft.
  
   However I agree, to implement a verification function which can be
 undone
   using a tool is worrying.
  
   I'm sure they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix.
  
  
   On 14/10/2010 11:29 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
  
   There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam account
  email.
  
   It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that seriously.
   Kyle.
  
   On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom nscrewtop...@gmail.com  wrote:
  
   Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the
 technical
   side.
   I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the whole
 ip
   address but the link sent to me was along the lines of
   steam(company).com.cc
   On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I
  guess..
  
   hmm
  
  
   On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR
   mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com  wrote:
  
If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
   Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.
  
  
   -Mensagem original-
   De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
   [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom n
   Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
   Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
   Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts
  
   Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.
  
   Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got
 a
   link
   sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite
 I
   had
   realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on
  my
   steam friends list..
  
   Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined
 for
   sho.
  
   Any ideas?
  
   (Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u
   guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread Gene H
Last time I did that, Steam locked my account.
Go figure.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Don P buzza...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well it requires people like us to tell them about the exploit in detail
 not
 just hey I heard from my mothers brothers sister hairdress that Valve can
 be
 hacked, that doesnt help fix the issues
 If you are aware of a real exploit send it to valve and give them time to
 fix it before posting it here other than maybe a generic hey I found this,
 too many people trolling looking for things to use ingame here.

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Gene H geneharde...@gmail.com wrote:

  and they are a platform provider.
  Shootjust imagine the hoopla that would exist if *pple's itunes or
 App
  Store had security holes like this
 
  G.
 
  On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   They are also a publisher of games, security should be a priority.
  
   On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Shane Arnold 
 clontar...@iinet.net.au
   wrote:
  
 I think you guys need to keep in mind they are primarily a game
   developer.
Their interest is in developing games, not necessarily concentrating
 on
   the
myriad of security aspects there are. They aren't Microsoft.
   
However I agree, to implement a verification function which can be
  undone
using a tool is worrying.
   
I'm sure they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix.
   
   
On 14/10/2010 11:29 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
   
There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam account
   email.
   
It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that seriously.
Kyle.
   
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom nscrewtop...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   
Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the
  technical
side.
I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the
 whole
  ip
address but the link sent to me was along the lines of
steam(company).com.cc
On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I
   guess..
   
hmm
   
   
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR
mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com  wrote:
   
 If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.
   
   
-Mensagem original-
De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom
 n
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts
   
Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.
   
Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has?
 Got
  a
link
sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on
 tonite
  I
had
realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked
 on
   my
steam friends list..
   
Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined
  for
sho.
   
Any ideas?
   
(Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask
 u
guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread John McCaskey
If you have concrete evidence of an exploit please provide us with any 
information you have.  We would certainly take such an exploit seriously.  
However, we currently aren't aware of any such exploit and have no evidence 
that one would be possible.  Sometimes rumors about exploits turn out to be 
greatly exaggerated.
 
Please feel free to email me directly if you have details on any security 
exploits in Steam.  

John

-Original Message-
From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:30 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam account email.

It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that seriously.
Kyle.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom n screwtop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the technical side.
 I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the whole ip
 address but the link sent to me was along the lines of steam(company).com.cc
 On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I guess..

 hmm


 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR 
 mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com wrote:

 If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
 Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.


 -Mensagem original-
 De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom n
 Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
 Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

 Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.

 Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got a link
 sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite I had
 realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on my
 steam friends list..

 Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined for sho.

 Any ideas?

 (Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread Don P
It may have been the manner in which you did it also. Posting in the forums
hey steam there is a hack at this website www.aaa.com yea I wouldnt doubt
that as you are then advertising for a hack.
If you use the bug reporter, maybe not

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Gene H geneharde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Last time I did that, Steam locked my account.
 Go figure.

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Don P buzza...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well it requires people like us to tell them about the exploit in detail
  not
  just hey I heard from my mothers brothers sister hairdress that Valve can
  be
  hacked, that doesnt help fix the issues
  If you are aware of a real exploit send it to valve and give them time to
  fix it before posting it here other than maybe a generic hey I found
 this,
  too many people trolling looking for things to use ingame here.
 
  On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Gene H geneharde...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   and they are a platform provider.
   Shootjust imagine the hoopla that would exist if *pple's itunes or
  App
   Store had security holes like this
  
   G.
  
   On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
  
They are also a publisher of games, security should be a priority.
   
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Shane Arnold 
  clontar...@iinet.net.au
wrote:
   
  I think you guys need to keep in mind they are primarily a game
developer.
 Their interest is in developing games, not necessarily
 concentrating
  on
the
 myriad of security aspects there are. They aren't Microsoft.

 However I agree, to implement a verification function which can be
   undone
 using a tool is worrying.

 I'm sure they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix.


 On 14/10/2010 11:29 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:

 There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam
 account
email.

 It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that
 seriously.
 Kyle.

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom nscrewtop...@gmail.com
   wrote:

 Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the
   technical
 side.
 I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the
  whole
   ip
 address but the link sent to me was along the lines of
 steam(company).com.cc
 On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I
guess..

 hmm


 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR
 mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com  wrote:

  If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
 Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.


 -Mensagem original-
 De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de
 tom
  n
 Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
 Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

 Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.

 Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has?
  Got
   a
 link
 sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on
  tonite
   I
 had
 realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been
 blocked
  on
my
 steam friends list..

 Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt
 joined
   for
 sho.

 Any ideas?

 (Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to
 ask
  u
 guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread Gene H
I submitted a support ticket.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Don P buzza...@gmail.com wrote:

 It may have been the manner in which you did it also. Posting in the forums
 hey steam there is a hack at this website www.aaa.com yea I wouldnt doubt
 that as you are then advertising for a hack.
 If you use the bug reporter, maybe not

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Gene H geneharde...@gmail.com wrote:

  Last time I did that, Steam locked my account.
  Go figure.
 
  On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Don P buzza...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Well it requires people like us to tell them about the exploit in
 detail
   not
   just hey I heard from my mothers brothers sister hairdress that Valve
 can
   be
   hacked, that doesnt help fix the issues
   If you are aware of a real exploit send it to valve and give them time
 to
   fix it before posting it here other than maybe a generic hey I found
  this,
   too many people trolling looking for things to use ingame here.
  
   On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Gene H geneharde...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
and they are a platform provider.
Shootjust imagine the hoopla that would exist if *pple's itunes
 or
   App
Store had security holes like this
   
G.
   
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:10 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 They are also a publisher of games, security should be a priority.

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Shane Arnold 
   clontar...@iinet.net.au
 wrote:

   I think you guys need to keep in mind they are primarily a game
 developer.
  Their interest is in developing games, not necessarily
  concentrating
   on
 the
  myriad of security aspects there are. They aren't Microsoft.
 
  However I agree, to implement a verification function which can
 be
undone
  using a tool is worrying.
 
  I'm sure they are aware of the issue and are working on a fix.
 
 
  On 14/10/2010 11:29 AM, Kyle Sanderson wrote:
 
  There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam
  account
 email.
 
  It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that
  seriously.
  Kyle.
 
  On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom nscrewtop...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
  Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the
technical
  side.
  I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the
   whole
ip
  address but the link sent to me was along the lines of
  steam(company).com.cc
  On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia
 I
 guess..
 
  hmm
 
 
  On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR
  mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com  wrote:
 
   If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
  Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.
 
 
  -Mensagem original-
  De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
  [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de
  tom
   n
  Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
  Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
  Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts
 
  Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.
 
  Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who
 has?
   Got
a
  link
  sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on
   tonite
I
  had
  realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been
  blocked
   on
 my
  steam friends list..
 
  Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt
  joined
for
  sho.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  (Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to
  ask
   u
  guys.:)
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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts FYI

2010-10-13 Thread Harry Strongburg
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 09:25:06PM -0500, tom n wrote:
 *deleted*
 is the address received in the message

Please stop announcing this stuff here. Everyone here is smart enough to 
not fall for a phishing attempt. If there is some bug that allowed an 
attacker to get our Steam logins, please email a Valve Employee 
(offlist) or open a Support Ticket. If you and your friends have fallen 
for a phish attempt, please direct them to 
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1266-OAFV-8478 - 
phishing is (in my opinion) one of the easiest-to-prevent problems.

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Re: [hlds_linux] anything wrong with l4d2 master server?

2010-10-13 Thread oGre
I suffer from a similiar problem: Even when using
mm_dedicated_force_servers I haven't been able to play on our servers
since yesterday. The search takes forever and finally fails. Are there
still problems with the matchmaking system?



2010/10/13 Anthony Mattson amatt...@fragdog.com:
 I noticed that my servers didn't show up in the list last night.  When I
 checked last night, there were only a couple of dozen and they were all
 valve servers.

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 11:02 AM, realdreams dream...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Last night I only have 45 l4d2 servers(both official and community
 servers, including my own servers) listed in my server browser.
 Usually there are around 1775 servers. I figured something was wrong
 with master server. Can someone confirm this?

 BTW since the dlc update, sometimes players get invisible. When this
 happens, I can only see the weapon/medkit of survivors and special
 infected including witch are completely invisible. I've also noticed
 survivors without weapon(imagine in CS:S how players without weapons
 look like..). Does it have something to do with the server?

 Any information about when dedicated servers can run addons again?

 Thanks.

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Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

2010-10-13 Thread Kyle Sanderson
You've got mail.

Kyle.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:40 PM, John McCaskey
jmccas...@valvesoftware.com wrote:
 If you have concrete evidence of an exploit please provide us with any 
 information you have.  We would certainly take such an exploit seriously.  
 However, we currently aren't aware of any such exploit and have no evidence 
 that one would be possible.  Sometimes rumors about exploits turn out to be 
 greatly exaggerated.

 Please feel free to email me directly if you have details on any security 
 exploits in Steam.

 John

 -Original Message-
 From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Kyle Sanderson
 Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 8:30 PM
 To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

 There are tools out there that can unverify a persons Steam account email.

 It's rather shocking how Valve doesn't take Security that seriously.
 Kyle.

 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, tom n screwtop...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks,already did that. I guess my question was more on the technical side.
 I had verified my steam email along time ago.Cant remember the whole ip
 address but the link sent to me was along the lines of steam(company).com.cc
 On checking this I realize that .cc is a topdomain in Australia I guess..

 hmm


 On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Marlon Almeida | CGBR 
 mar...@cybergamesbrasil.com wrote:

 If you still can log in, go change your password and secret.
 Don't waste time trying to figure how that happened.


 -Mensagem original-
 De: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
 [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] Em nome de tom n
 Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de outubro de 2010 22:49
 Para: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
 Assunto: [hlds_linux] hacking steam accounts

 Hi all,not the forum but I had a question to ask.

 Any of ya had your steam acct hacked or knew of someone who has? Got a link
 sent to me today for a medal of honor beta. When i logged on tonite I had
 realized for some reason that a cpl of friends had been blocked on my
 steam friends list..

 Also I had joined a cpl of steam groups that I know I hadnt joined for sho.

 Any ideas?

 (Like I said,not the right forum but just bored and wanted to ask u guys.:)
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