Re: [hlds_linux] What distro will Valve target for dedicated servers, now that Ubuntu is stripping-out 32-bit support?

2019-07-20 Thread Ook 
FWIW I've been running hlds on Slackware 64bit for many years. They do 
have a 32 bit flavor, but I switched to the 64 bit version years ago.


I switched to the 64 bit version a few years ago, install alien bob's 
multilib, install wine, and hlds works great. And for those that care, 
Slackware does not use systemd.



On 7/20/19 12:46 AM, Marco Padovan wrote:
Just to have some dates for the two mostly used flavors for community 
servers:


CentOS 7 is officially supported till June 30, 2024

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS goes EOL in April 2024
then you have Ubuntu 18.04 LTS fully supported till April 2023 and 
goes EOL in 2028


On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:05 AM Mecha Weasel 
 wrote:


A while back it was announced that Ubuntu will be dropping
32-bit/i386 packages from their next LTS distro (20.04).
A question primarily to Valve ...

They have since walked that back SLIGHTLY, but still it raises the
question about Valve support for SRCDS and HLDS on Ubuntu.

The last I recall from Valve, was that everything ran as 32-bit
under Ubuntu (non-change-root), and on non-Ubuntu it was still
32-bit but run in a change-root?

Or maybe do something crazy like make a Valve-distro like SteamOS
- but for the dedicated-server side (SteamServerOS?)?

Is there any information available as to what Valve's stategry
will be for the future?

Will they be moving from Ubuntu to another distro as their primary
target?
Will they be distributing SRCDS and HLDS compiled for 64-bit/amd64
instead?
If so, will they commit to continuing to keep HLDS-based game
running, or stop supporting-them (HL1, CS 1.x, TFC, etc.)?

What about for games where the client-side is also available for
Linux (generally in addition to SteamOS)?

Just wondering what (if any) future there is for gaming
communities hosting servers for these games, as I can not think of
any of them that are 64-bit.

- Weasel

Updated Ubuntu statement regarding 32-bit/i386 Packages (24 June
2019):

https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts


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Re: [hlds_linux] What distro will Valve target for dedicated servers, now that Ubuntu is stripping-out 32-bit support?

2019-07-20 Thread Sam Vanheer 
I've noted this on the Half-Life issue tracker should any supprt be added: 
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/halflife/issues/2231


Op 20/07/2019 om 9:46 schreef Marco Padovan:
Just to have some dates for the two mostly used flavors for community servers:

CentOS 7 is officially supported till June 30, 2024

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS goes EOL in April 2024
then you have Ubuntu 18.04 LTS fully supported till April 2023 and goes EOL in 
2028

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:05 AM Mecha Weasel 
 wrote:
A while back it was announced that Ubuntu will be dropping 32-bit/i386 packages 
from their next LTS distro (20.04).
A question primarily to Valve ...

They have since walked that back SLIGHTLY, but still it raises the question 
about Valve support for SRCDS and HLDS on Ubuntu.

The last I recall from Valve, was that everything ran as 32-bit under Ubuntu 
(non-change-root), and on non-Ubuntu it was still 32-bit but run in a 
change-root?

Or maybe do something crazy like make a Valve-distro like SteamOS - but for the 
dedicated-server side (SteamServerOS?)?

Is there any information available as to what Valve's stategry will be for the 
future?

Will they be moving from Ubuntu to another distro as their primary target?
Will they be distributing SRCDS and HLDS compiled for 64-bit/amd64 instead?
If so, will they commit to continuing to keep HLDS-based game running, or stop 
supporting-them (HL1, CS 1.x, TFC, etc.)?

What about for games where the client-side is also available for Linux 
(generally in addition to SteamOS)?

Just wondering what (if any) future there is for gaming communities hosting 
servers for these games, as I can not think of any of them that are 64-bit.

- Weasel

Updated Ubuntu statement regarding 32-bit/i386 Packages (24 June 2019):
https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts

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Re: [hlds_linux] What distro will Valve target for dedicated servers, now that Ubuntu is stripping-out 32-bit support?

2019-07-20 Thread Marco Padovan 
Just to have some dates for the two mostly used flavors for community
servers:

CentOS 7 is officially supported till June 30, 2024

Ubuntu 16.04 LTS goes EOL in April 2024
then you have Ubuntu 18.04 LTS fully supported till April 2023 and goes EOL
in 2028

On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:05 AM Mecha Weasel 
wrote:

> A while back it was announced that Ubuntu will be dropping 32-bit/i386
> packages from their next LTS distro (20.04).
> A question primarily to Valve ...
>
> They have since walked that back SLIGHTLY, but still it raises the
> question about Valve support for SRCDS and HLDS on Ubuntu.
>
> The last I recall from Valve, was that everything ran as 32-bit under
> Ubuntu (non-change-root), and on non-Ubuntu it was still 32-bit but run in
> a change-root?
>
> Or maybe do something crazy like make a Valve-distro like SteamOS - but
> for the dedicated-server side (SteamServerOS?)?
>
> Is there any information available as to what Valve's stategry will be for
> the future?
>
> Will they be moving from Ubuntu to another distro as their primary target?
> Will they be distributing SRCDS and HLDS compiled for 64-bit/amd64 instead?
> If so, will they commit to continuing to keep HLDS-based game running, or
> stop supporting-them (HL1, CS 1.x, TFC, etc.)?
>
> What about for games where the client-side is also available for Linux
> (generally in addition to SteamOS)?
>
> Just wondering what (if any) future there is for gaming communities
> hosting servers for these games, as I can not think of any of them that are
> 64-bit.
>
> - Weasel
>
> Updated Ubuntu statement regarding 32-bit/i386 Packages (24 June 2019):
>
> https://ubuntu.com/blog/statement-on-32-bit-i386-packages-for-ubuntu-19-10-and-20-04-lts
>
>
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> | [F+M] Freaks & Misfits:  |
> |  ______  |
> | |  _| _ __  __ |_  | |
> | | |  |  ___|_  |  \/  |  | | |
> | | |  | |_ _| |_| .  . |  | | |
> | | |  |  _|_   _| |\/| |  | | |
> | | |  | |   |_| | |  | |  | | |
> | | |_ \_|   \_|  |_/ _| | |
> | |___|  |___| |
> +--+
> | Steam-Community: |
> |  FreaksMisfits   |
> | Web-Site:|
> |  FreaksMisfits.club  |
> | E-Mail:  |
> |   wea...@freaksmisfits.club  |
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