Re: Leap frog from z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.11

2010-06-14 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, Sorry I didn't see this sooner, I was at a client site, who strangely enough, was also converting from 1.7 to 1.11. I don't normally have (or want) to go to a site to do the upgrade, but in this case there were some extenuating circumstances that made it logical to be there in person. The

SMF QUESTION - TRACKING VSAM CLUSTER

2010-06-14 Thread John Dawes
G'Day All Readers,   I am trying to find the job name which created a VSAM dsn.  I read type 61, 62 64 and came up empty.  The DSN was created on May 20, 2010.  I have read the SMF tapes for the whole week and I didn't find anything.  Is there some other SMF type record I should read?   Thanks

Re: SMF QUESTION - TRACKING VSAM CLUSTER

2010-06-14 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:52:57 -0700, John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au wrote: G'Day All Readers,   I am trying to find the job name which created a VSAM dsn.  I read type 61, 62 64 and came up empty.  The DSN was created on May 20, 2010.  I have read the SMF tapes for the whole week and I

Re: SMF QUESTION - TRACKING VSAM CLUSTER

2010-06-14 Thread John Kelly
I would have thought that you'd find it with SMF61 but if not did you try to see if it was a rename, ie SMF66. Other option would be to check the VVDS update, SMF60 HTH Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/14/2010 10:54

Re: SMF QUESTION - TRACKING VSAM CLUSTER

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/14/2010 10:02:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ptl...@midamerican.com writes: John, give types 63 69 a try as well. Micheal Cleary's DAF pgm is built for this. Name and SMF should filter it all out. If it's a broad range might want to filter VSAM and RACF first then

Re: SMF QUESTION - TRACKING VSAM CLUSTER

2010-06-14 Thread John Dawes
Eureke, record type 63 found it,  Thanks to all who helped. --- On Tue, 15/6/10, Patrick Lyon ptl...@midamerican.com wrote: From: Patrick Lyon ptl...@midamerican.com Subject: Re: SMF QUESTION - TRACKING VSAM CLUSTER To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010, 1:01 AM On Mon, 14

Re: SMF QUESTION - TRACKING VSAM CLUSTER

2010-06-14 Thread Elliot, David
Type 63? Have I stepped through a time warp this morning? I thought VSAM catalogs were obsolete years ago. David Elliot zSeries Software Support -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010

Re: APAR OA30338 for PDSE Users - HIPER DATALOSS

2010-06-14 Thread Edward Jaffe
Edward Jaffe wrote: I can't for the life of me explain why this is not HIPER, but if you use PDSEs in your shop I highly recommend APAR OA30338. FYI. This APAR has now been marked HIPER DATALOSS. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA

Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
I prefer to have the ISV datasets in LINKLST statements in PROGxx cataloged in the master catalog and not use volume references. My co-worker doesn't think it as a big deal and usually uses a load library cataloged in the ISV usercat and a volume reference. Am I just being anal (I really don't

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Daniel Allen
We have our CICS, DB2 and IMS system datasets residing on Non-SMS volumes that are not cataloged in the master catalog. The datasets are shared among fourteen (14) LPARs without any problems. We are an ISV. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: I prefer to have

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
Just to be clear, I know that either technique works perfectly well. I am asking if there is any real argument that one or the other is superior in anyway. Like I said, I might just be excessively anal about the issue. I find volume references (parm, JCL, etc.), anywhere there is a choice not to

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Starr, Alan
Hi Dave, I am an old dinosaur and, like you, prefer to isolate non-CPAC datasets in a separate user catalog. Once upon a time, I used different HLQs to permit me to do this AND list LNKLST / LPALST datasets is PARMLIB without a volume reference. Example: SYSV.** for all ISV datasets except

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Like I said, I might just be excessively anal about the issue. I find volume references (parm, JCL, etc.), anywhere there is a choice not to use them, irritating. If you're anal, then so am I. I prefer things to be found through the catalogue, rather than having to remember, and maintain, where

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Ken Porowski
Either way works. It's more about what you are comfortable with (even if you are OCD/anal). I always felt the trick was to pick one and stick with it and not mix the two. Personally I prefer a unique HLQ for ISV datasets in the mastercat (e.g. SYSX.prodver.*) and non mastercat entries as

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Personally I prefer a unique HLQ for ISV datasets in the mastercat (e.g. SYSX.prodver.*) and non mastercat entries as MVS.prodver.* (for example). I don't like versions in LNKLST datasets. I have no problem with them in maintenance or steplibs. But, regardless of the HLQ, they should not have

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other? Personally I prefer a unique HLQ for ISV datasets in

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Chris Craddock
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:04 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I don't like versions in LNKLST datasets. I have no problem with them in maintenance or steplibs. But, regardless of the HLQ, they should not have versioning in the production environment, IMO. I agree

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I agree with you about versions. My manager, OTOH, totally disagrees. So we do it his way. Don't you just hate it when managers make technical decisions? Staff should be smart enough to determine the best way to organise the products. Managers should be smart enough to let staff do their jobs

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It is mostly a religious issue, but for some products there are practical considerations. I don't see it as 'religious'; just less editing of PARMLIB. I'm curious. Can you give an example of when the version should be included in the LNKLST? Or, am I reading too much into 'practical

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Ken Porowski
Actually our naming conventions are Production MVS.prod.*(.lpar) SYSX.prod.*(.lpar) (.lpar) if I need LPAR specific datasets Install/TestMVS.prodVnnn.* SYSX.prodV99.* which is a linklisted copy of a MVS.prodVnnn.* load although I

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Ed Gould
From: Starr, Alan alan_st...@calpers.ca.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:42:35 PM Subject: Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other? Hi Dave, ---SNIP I am against having any vendors library in the

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other? Hi Dave, ---SNIP

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:34:25 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: Current product in question is FDRABR. He has also done Syncsort like this. Both are needed early in the IPL and if there is a way to avoid link/lpa listing them, I don't know it. In many cases, I do prefer ISV in the system search

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Gibney, Dave
Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 2:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:44:58 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: I've tried to promote fully qualified aliases to have a static name in the JCL and other places while supporting versioning in the actual dataset name. It's been successful with a different set of products/co-worker, but he recently took

[Fwd: Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?]

2010-06-14 Thread John McKown
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Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip--- I prefer to have the ISV datasets in LINKLST statements in PROGxx cataloged in the master catalog and not use volume references. My co-worker doesn't think it as a big deal and usually uses a load library cataloged in the

Re: Linklst; 6 of 1/half dozen of the other?

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:13:04 -0700, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: I prefer to have the ISV datasets in LINKLST statements in PROGxx cataloged in the master catalog and not use volume references. My co-worker doesn't think it as a big deal and usually uses a load library cataloged in the

Re: IBM Rational Developer for System z

2010-06-14 Thread Timothy Sipples
Tony Harminc writes: The part that's not clear to me is that the Rational Developer for System z Unit Test environment clearly supports multiple users, but it sounds as though each user must have a separately licensed copy of the prereq Rational Developer for System z. Is this a technical or a