Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 05-Jul-08, at 9:40 AM, Anand Shankar wrote: Let us take the discussions to a more serious level. since you are first serious person in this thread, I suggest you show us how to. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-05 Thread Mani A
Anand Shankar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further can some one point to the relevant requirements under either POSIX Specifications or Linux Standards Base? POSIX Specs say that there is no need to fix it. One should set the TZ environment variable to a time zone literal. Further it does not

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-04 Thread Viksit Gaur
Oh good lord, the entire list is aflame. Oh wait, no its just the regular flamers who're flaming. India has only one timezone. I woulid like to suggest to change the city to Delhi (from Calcutta), which is the capital of India, and has been stable since the country's independence in 1947. If

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-04 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
+++ Viksit Gaur [04/07/08 01:49 -0700]: Oh good lord, the entire list is aflame. Oh wait, no its just the regular flamers who're flaming. India has only one timezone. I woulid like to suggest to change the city to Delhi (from Calcutta), which is the capital of India, and has been stable since

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-04 Thread Yashpal Nagar
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Viksit Gaur [04/07/08 01:49 -0700]: Oh good lord, the entire list is aflame. Oh wait, no its just the regular flamers who're flaming. India has only one timezone. I woulid like to suggest to change the city to

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-04 Thread Arun Khan
On Friday 04 Jul 2008, Yashpal Nagar wrote: I agree Vivek's point to checkout, how other countries with single timezones handled this issue. Taking the example of a small country like Netherlands, the capital is Den Haag. Linux time zone data lists Amsterdam. -- Arun Khan

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-04 Thread आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ,--[ On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 05:29:28PM +0530, Arun Khan wrote: | On Friday 04 Jul 2008, Yashpal Nagar wrote: | | I agree Vivek's point to checkout, how other countries with single | timezones handled this issue. | | Taking the example of a small

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-04 Thread Arun Khan
On Friday 04 Jul 2008, आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla wrote: ,--[ On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 05:29:28PM +0530, Arun Khan wrote: | On Friday 04 Jul 2008, Yashpal Nagar wrote: | I agree Vivek's point to checkout, how other countries with | single timezones handled this issue. | | Taking the example

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-04 Thread Mani A
Viksit Gaur [04/07/08 01:49 -0700] wrote: This is exactly, where this thread started under what basis linux time zone start showing only Calcutta as the only choice. Is there can be other reason apart from, British considered it as the capital during their time? No problem, Kolkata can be

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-04 Thread Anand Shankar
Sorry to note that despite 31 posts on the thread there is no meaningful explanation I can offer on the subject to a serious audience. I think the issue deserves more serious thoughts rather than some frivolous comments seen in the thread. My take: Q: Why fix it ...? A: Just because every one

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-03 Thread Arun Khan
On Thursday 03 Jul 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On 03-Jul-08, at 9:57 AM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: ps - I posted a dissenting mail to the timezone list Appreciate that :) and I would have appreciated it more if you had posted your request for comments to all major lug lists - still not

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-03 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
shirish wrote: Hi all, You guys are a real riot. I liked the whole thread :) /me ducks from a flame Hmm... curious that you should ponder that your liking a thread would set ablaze the list. But then, this reply can lead to various strange loops of interpretation. --

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 03-Jul-08, at 8:05 PM, shirish wrote: Hi all, You guys are a real riot. I liked the whole thread :) /me ducks from a flame -- Regards, Shirish Agarwal This email is licensed under http://creativecommons.org/licenses/ by-nc/3.0/ and what *exactly* is your original contribution

[ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Goldwyn Rodrigues
Hi, I am forwarding a mail I sent to timezone mailing list sometime back. I should have first discussed this on the ilugd list, but it is still not late. I don't mean to introduce a geographical divide, but just want the timezone package to be politically correct. Your views are welcome, and

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 02-Jul-08, at 3:37 PM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: 1. Legacy Calcutta Standard Time used during the British carried over 2. Delhi stands very close to Dili in pronunciation and spelling, and can be confusing. If it aint broken why fix it? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate, NRC-FOSS

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Tanveer Singh
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02-Jul-08, at 3:37 PM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: 1. Legacy Calcutta Standard Time used during the British carried over 2. Delhi stands very close to Dili in pronunciation and spelling, and can be confusing. If it

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Arun Khan
On Wednesday 02 Jul 2008, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: Hi, I am forwarding a mail I sent to timezone mailing list sometime back. I should have first discussed this on the ilugd list, but it is still not late. I don't mean to introduce a geographical divide, but just want the timezone package

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Goldwyn Rodrigues
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Tanveer Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02-Jul-08, at 3:37 PM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: 1. Legacy Calcutta Standard Time used during the British carried over 2. Delhi stands very

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Goldwyn Rodrigues
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Arun Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 Jul 2008, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: Hi, I am forwarding a mail I sent to timezone mailing list sometime back. I should have first discussed this on the ilugd list, but it is still not late. I don't mean to

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 02-Jul-08, at 5:41 PM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: I am looking from the perspective of a newbie who is doing his first installation, and sets his timezone as India. (S)he tries to find Delhi on the drop down list but fails to find it, and probably later resorts to the map. Yes, (S)he does

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 02-Jul-08, at 5:47 PM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: Logically yes, but not with respect to popularity. Timezone package contains major cities of the timezone rather than the city/suburb of the correct meridian. eg, CET/CEST. I wish to propose to change the city to Delhi from Kolkata. I

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: I am forwarding a mail I sent to timezone mailing list sometime back. I should have first discussed this on the ilugd list, but it is still not late. Given that you have already posted to the tz mailing list, what do you hope to achieve by posting it to the LUG-D

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
+++ Kenneth Gonsalves [02/07/08 17:58 +0530]: changed to Chennai according to your logic. All you are doing is fanning the flames of regionalism, chauvinism, confucianism and god knows what else. For heaven's sake leave this alone and go do something useful. I concur. The country is in too

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Subhodip Biswas
hi ! +1 to kenneth if not broken why fix ? simple waste of time -- Regards Subhodip Biswas Fedora Ambassador West Bengal , India GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Goldwyn Rodrigues
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: I am forwarding a mail I sent to timezone mailing list sometime back. I should have first discussed this on the ilugd list, but it is still not late. Given that you have already posted to

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Goldwyn Rodrigues
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ Kenneth Gonsalves [02/07/08 17:58 +0530]: changed to Chennai according to your logic. All you are doing is fanning the flames of regionalism, chauvinism, confucianism and god knows what else. For heaven's sake leave

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Arun Khan
On Thursday 03 Jul 2008, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: Kolkata AFAIK, is listed because Calcutta Standard Time during the British Raj was GMT+5:30. This has been abolished after unification of India. British raj was over in 1947. How did Calcutta show up in Linux time zone data? Is it possible

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Goldwyn Rodrigues
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Arun Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 Jul 2008, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: Kolkata AFAIK, is listed because Calcutta Standard Time during the British Raj was GMT+5:30. This has been abolished after unification of India. British raj was over in 1947.

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 03-Jul-08, at 8:57 AM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Arun Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 Jul 2008, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: Kolkata AFAIK, is listed because Calcutta Standard Time during the British Raj was GMT+5:30. This has been abolished after

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Goldwyn Rodrigues
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03-Jul-08, at 8:57 AM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Arun Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 Jul 2008, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: Kolkata AFAIK, is listed because Calcutta

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 03-Jul-08, at 9:57 AM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: ps - I posted a dissenting mail to the timezone list Appreciate that :) and I would have appreciated it more if you had posted your request for comments to all major lug lists - still not too late for that -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves

Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Change of timezone City for India

2008-07-02 Thread Goldwyn Rodrigues
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 03-Jul-08, at 9:57 AM, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote: ps - I posted a dissenting mail to the timezone list Appreciate that :) and I would have appreciated it more if you had posted your request for comments to all