Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-20 Thread java2d
on. I can think of server side apps that could use a fast graphics pipeline to ship chunks of graphical information to a client using a high speed network. You have the big iron running the graphics and the client displaying the computed image. Things like molecular physics; GIS

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-20 Thread Nidel, Mike
If you're talking about a full immersive virtual reality environment, then yes maybe VR isn't a consideration for Java2d. But for some limited uses similar to Quicktime VR it is definitely applicable. I believe Ken has an applet on the web that does exactly that in java. As far as server-side

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-20 Thread java2d
processing in software could benefit from porting their operations to the GPU -- regardless of whether those pixels are going straight to the display or coming back out of VRAM to be written to a file. Yes I know gpgpu and yes I've already on such a project, I also have some posts in their

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-20 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: processing in software could benefit from porting their operations to the GPU -- regardless of whether those pixels are going straight to the display or coming back out of VRAM to be written to a file. Yes I know gpgpu and yes I've already on such a project, I also

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-19 Thread java2d
[quote] Is fundamentally wrong -- at least in my case. [/quote] I tend to hate such heuristic desicisions - I was hit by them in the oppsite way: I have a Core2Duo Laptop with 2GB Ram running Linux - so by default the server-jvm is used for my desktop applications and even for Applets and small

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-19 Thread Ken Warner
[quote] Then have higher level layers of graphic acceleration for the more advanced video cards. Shading etc. [/quote] Well I think some kind of black-listing would probably the best thing - black-list which driver/os/directx-versions are known to be broken and emit a small warning on the

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-19 Thread Ken Warner
The funny thing is that Windows 2000 wasn't a server class OS when I bought it. It was just the latest Windows. Somewhere along the line it became a server OS. And I didn't know I became an Administrator. I guess I didn't get the memo. And the reason I don't upgrade to XP or (yuk) Vista is

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-19 Thread Phil Race
Ken, Please read the subject line. Windows 2003 and 2008 are server OSes and are quite different than windows 2000. -phil. Ken Warner wrote: The funny thing is that Windows 2000 wasn't a server class OS when I bought it. It was just the latest Windows. Somewhere along the line it became a

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-19 Thread Ken Warner
I'm just going by what Dmitri told me... Secondly, starting with b08 the pipeline will only be enabled on client-class OS (WinXP and newer). Win2K* are classified as a server-class OS flavor. The reason for this policy is that typically on servers people care more about stability than

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-19 Thread Ken Warner
One last thing then I'll say no more. Seems to me that the way to include / exclude systems is by the capabilities of the graphics card that Java is running on. I can think of server side apps that could use a fast graphics pipeline to ship chunks of graphical information to a client using a

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-18 Thread Dmitri Trembovetski
Hi James, yes, the d3d pipeline is disabled on Windows 2003, and starting with build 08 on any server-class OS (for example Windows Server 2008). The reason is that typically people don't care about graphics performance on a server, and also drivers tend to be old/buggy on servers

Re: [JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-18 Thread Ken Warner
The assumption that, ...typically people don't care about graphics performance on a server, and also drivers tend to be old/buggy on servers as they are not updated as often. Is fundamentally wrong -- at least in my case. I keep my machine as up to date as possible. I installed the

[JAVA2D] Direct3D is disabled in win2003 in 6uN EA?

2007-11-06 Thread java2d
Hello I got [W] GetFlagValues: D3D is disabled on Win Server 2003 while set J2D_TRACE_LEVEL=4 Is it the default behaviour or I can force to enable it in windows 2003? thanks in advance! James [Message sent by forum member 'inchlin' (inchlin)]