Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Kenny

There's always a problem it seems.

I'm curious? How many sites or applications do JAWS users encounter 
that require JAVA? I know there a lot of on-line gaming sites that 
need it to run their plug-ins. For your own needs is it really worth 
the risks? I mean if Google has taken steps to stop certain programs 
from appearing on their search engine, there must be a serious 
problem. Believe other well known sites have also followed suit.


I would just avoid installing them completely, unless I had full 
flexibility to enable them on a site by site basis. That's what using 
FireFox will give you. That's why I have Adobe Flash installed only 
on FireFox. Some important sites I use haven't switched their web 
players to the new HTML 5 format, thus I have to use Adobe Flash to 
access their content.


At 06:07 PM 4/14/2017, you wrote:
I uninstalled Java about three years ago after the U.S. government 
issued this warning. However, I since read that Oracle had fixed the 
security vulnerability and that the government withdrew its notice. 
Is  this over-simplifying? Is there still a problem?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hans 
Pauli Sundstein

Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi Mike.

If you hav'nt any program that requires java, it is'nt longer 
nesesary to install java, it will only make your computer more unsecure.


Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Mike B.
Dato: 14. april 2017 22:46
Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi Adrian,

Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease 
of Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link?  Thanks much.

Take care.
Mike
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From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with
Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro.
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE,
& Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Mike B.
Hi Adrian,

Well, my 1st install was from, Ninite, but after enabling the Access Bridge 
I got an error message, & also after rebooting.  Come to find out, the 
Ninite installer installed both 32 & 64 bit versions.  So, I uninstalled 
them both, made sure all Oracle / Java folders were gone from everywhere I 
could think of, cleaned my system with CCleaner, & finally reinstalled with 
an installer I got from Oracle's website.  I enabled the Access Bridge, no 
error messages, rebooted, & no error messages, so I think we gotter whipped. 
Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

I'd forgotten all about that. The answer is yes, as I've just confirmed from 
my notes. But I wish I'd checked them before because I could have saved you 
having to find a good download site.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi Adrian,

Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of 
Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no 
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with 
Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro.
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, 
& Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Kenny
You're absolutely correct. Both JAVA and Adobe Flash are on 
everyone's hit list for having way too many security vulnerabilities. 
It's best you avoid installing them. You get more flexibility 
installing Adobe Flash on FireFox for you can enable it's use on a 
site by site basis. They may have the same option for JAVA.


At 05:40 PM 4/14/2017, you wrote:

Hi Mike.

If you hav'nt any program that requires java, it is'nt longer 
nesesary to install java, it will only make your computer more unsecure.


Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Mike B.
Dato: 14. april 2017 22:46
Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi Adrian,

Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of
Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message - From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with
Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro.
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE,
& Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Adrian Spratt
I uninstalled Java about three years ago after the U.S. government issued this 
warning. However, I since read that Oracle had fixed the security vulnerability 
and that the government withdrew its notice. Is  this over-simplifying? Is 
there still a problem?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Hans Pauli Sundstein
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi Mike.

If you hav'nt any program that requires java, it is'nt longer nesesary to 
install java, it will only make your computer more unsecure.

Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Mike B.
Dato: 14. april 2017 22:46
Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi Adrian,

Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of Access 
Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with
Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro.
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE,
& Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Adrian Spratt
Mike,

I'd forgotten all about that. The answer is yes, as I've just confirmed from my 
notes. But I wish I'd checked them before because I could have saved you having 
to find a good download site. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi Adrian,

Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of Access 
Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no 
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. 
JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. 
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & 
Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Hans Pauli Sundstein

Hi Mike.

If you hav'nt any program that requires java, it is'nt longer nesesary to 
install java, it will only make your computer more unsecure.


Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
Fra: Mike B.

Dato: 14. april 2017 22:46
Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Emne: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi Adrian,

Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of
Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with
Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro.
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE,
& Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Mike B.
Hi Adrian,

Okay, did you enable the Java Access Bridge in, Control Panel / Ease of 
Access Center / Use the Computer Without a Display link?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no 
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with 
Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. 
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, 
& Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Adrian Spratt
That's right, the Bridge isn't necessary anymore. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi Adrian,

I did finally find, download, & install the correct program, Java 8, but it 
just took me a little time to find it.  So, this is all I need to install then? 
 You say that the bridge isn't necessary any more?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no 
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. 
JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. 
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & 
Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Mike B.
Hi Adrian,

I did finally find, download, & install the correct program, Java 8, but it 
just took me a little time to find it.  So, this is all I need to install 
then?  You say that the bridge isn't necessary any more?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws


Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no 
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with 
Java. JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. 
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, 
& Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Adrian Spratt
Mike,

The important, relatively recent development is that screenreader users no 
longer need to install JAWS Access Bridge in order for them to work with Java. 
JAB is now incorporated into the download. JAB used to be a nightmare.

Java is now produced by Oracle, which bought out its developer, Sun Micro. 
Below is the link to an Oracle page of Java downloads:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index-jsp-138363.html

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, & 
Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. 
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[JAWS-Users] Java & Jaws

2017-04-14 Thread Mike B.
Hi All,

What is the recommended version of Java I should install for Windows 7, IE, 
& Jaws?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. 
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