It has nothing to deal with fear of the stealing the code. Anyone can. Its about
working with people you trust to build a project that has to answer to customers.
--
Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC
Kevin Duffey wrote:
I
Juha Lindfors wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
P.S. Let's be fair, all the project administrators are members of the
JBoss Group and defend the JBoss Group business ambitions
Yes, of course we will. That should not come as a surprise to anyone. This
is a real business.
Such
FYI, Marc was not angry and he did not make the decision alone. All the
project administrators agreed to it. Ad hominem attacks will get you
nowhere.
I would like to have a list of these people.
Andreas
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As a long standing user and supporter of the JBoss project I am finding
this thread quite interesting.
Correct me if I'm, wrong, but Scott's remark below implies that the
JBoss group will zap contributors to the project if they happen to use
the JBoss source in a way contrary to the interests of
Not if your not taking our code as the basis of the competing project. If you
are, there is too much likelyhood that you will attempt to stear our codebase in
the direction of the other project and that makes for a conflict we can do without.
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Scott Stark
Chief
Juha Lindfors wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
What makes you so angry, Mark?
FYI, Marc was not angry and he did not make the decision alone. All the
project administrators agreed to it. Ad hominem attacks will get you
nowhere.
There was nothing personal in my questions.
FYI, Marc was not angry and he did not make the decision alone. All the
project administrators agreed to it. Ad hominem attacks will get you
nowhere.
Sorry for being stupid, but I don't see the point, except that it is already
backfiring.
I do not believe any of these people would break the
I see. I will unsubscribe from all JBoss lists now.
Bye,
Andreas
- Original Message -
From: Juha Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] July 2003 news
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
P.S
Juha, Marc, etc,
I guess the question I and it seems others are
interested in is WHY did you cut loose these guys, and
so suddenly? There seems to be no logical explanation,
and why at a time when JBoss is really start to shift
momentum and finally become certified and so forth,
why cut a number
Scott M Stark wrote:
These are all old headers from the pre-conversion to LGPL. They will be
corrected or removed.
Well, you can change the license only if you got such permission from
all the committers to these files. And even from those aliens who did
not commit directly, but sent a patch
As stated in previous msgs on the question of Jetty, we will continue to
maintain the embedded container service.
--
Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC
Kevin Duffey wrote:
Great stuff. One question, what happened to Jetty? It
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
What makes you so angry, Mark?
FYI, Marc was not angry and he did not make the decision alone. All the
project administrators agreed to it. Ad hominem attacks will get you
nowhere.
-- Juha
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marc fleury wrote:
skip
JBoss J2EE certification effort.
JBoss is increasingly used in production and as you all move to
production we realize that certification brand becomes an important
check mark. We have the financials to take it on, so we are. So many
people have asked us where that was
I must have missed all the emails with misconduct in
them.
So the fear you refer to is that you think Jetty and
other developers of CDN were going to steal JBoss
code, which is open-source, and take it over to the
apache J2ee project?
See, that seems backwards to me. No offense intended,
but I
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joachim Van
der Auwera
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] July 2003 news
FYI, Marc was not angry and he did not make the decision alone. All
Juha Lindfors wrote:
Which is why he said corrected OR removed.
He said this about header, not about the file. Correcting or removing
header which describes a license is illegal without a proper permission
from authors.
-- Juha
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
Scott M Stark
DST)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] July 2003 news
Other issues are the obvious misconduct on the part of the
developers that lost RW
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JBoss Group is committed to bringing in as many
developers as possible that want to make their living on
open-source.
This is the kind of thing I like to hear, but I'm having a difficult
time reconciling that with the fact that there are now
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Brian Wallis
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Vladyslav Kosulin
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] July 2003 news
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 05:15, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
P.S. Do you know
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
FYI, Marc was not angry and he did not make the decision alone. All the
project administrators agreed to it. Ad hominem attacks will get you
nowhere.
I would like to have a list of these people.
Project administrators are listed at the
Brian Wallis wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I'd like to know as well. We will address this issues if it is
so.
GPL licensed files
#grep -R under GPL *
jetty/src/main/org/jboss/jetty/JBossWebApplicationContext.java: *
Distributable under GPL license.
These are all old headers from the pre-conversion to LGPL. They will be
corrected or removed.
--
Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC
Brian Wallis wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I'd like to
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 11:34 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I'd like to know as well. We will address this issues if it is
so.
GPL licensed files
#grep -R under GPL *
jetty/src/main/org/jboss/jetty/JBossWebApplicationContext.java: *
Distributable under GPL license.
Which is why he said corrected OR removed.
-- Juha
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
Scott M Stark wrote:
These are all old headers from the pre-conversion to LGPL. They will be
corrected or removed.
Well, you can change the license only if you got such permission from
all
Great stuff. One question, what happened to Jetty? It
seemed JBoss moved to Jetty not too long ago, and as
far as I knew Jetty was a better servlet/jsp/web
container than Tomcat. Can you please advise us as to
what is going on here, especially with Greg sending an
email out indicating he and the
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote:
P.S. Let's be fair, all the project administrators are members of the
JBoss Group and defend the JBoss Group business ambitions
Yes, of course we will. That should not come as a surprise to anyone. This
is a real business.
-- Juha
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Kevin Duffey wrote:
Juha, Marc, etc,
I guess the question I and it seems others are
interested in is WHY did you cut loose these guys, and
so suddenly?
In this case we felt that we needed to agressively defend our copyrights
and license. Other issues are the obvious
Another valid point. I am sure many of us are still
not sure how the Jetty team and/or CDN developers have
suddenly put forth the notion that they were going to
steal JBoss code and put it into this apache J2EE
container, especially if they were still part of the
JBoss development team and also
Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
FYI, Marc was not angry and he did not make the decision alone. All the
project administrators agreed to it. Ad hominem attacks will get you
nowhere.
I would like to have a list of these people.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/jboss/
Upper right corner.
Mark Fleury,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian
Wallis
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Vladyslav Kosulin
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JBoss-dev] Re: [JBoss-user] July 2003 news
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 05:15, Vladyslav Kosulin wrote
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