Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol 14.9.1 - Tiny echo text and hover messages

[Rolf Huehne]

Am 17.03.17 um 13:14 schrieb Robert Hanson:
> Rolf, I cannot reproduce this font problem. I see exactly the same font
> in 14.4, 14.6, 14.9.1, and 14.10.0.beta. I do see that echos are shifted
> slightly to the left. So perhaps you can send me more specific commands
> in order to see the  problem.
>
Bob, I also couldn't reproduce the font problem in a simple test 
condition. I am still trying to figure out the conditions when it occurs.

While doing this I noticed another problem in version 14.9.1:

In the Jena3D-Viewer with Jmol-Javascript 
(http://jenalib.leibniz-fli.de/cgi-bin/3d_mapping.pl?CODE=1deh=14.9.1)
 
the cartoon reperesentation looks like intended with ribbonborder and 
alpha-helices shown as helices.
But with Jmol-Java 
(http://jenalib.leibniz-fli.de/cgi-bin/3d_mapping.pl?CODE=1deh=14.9.1&_USE=JAVA)
 
the ribbonborder is missing and the alpha-helices are drawn as "rockets 
without heads".

Regards,
Rolf

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol 14.9.1 - Tiny echo text and hover messages

[Robert Hanson]

Rolf, I cannot reproduce this font problem. I see exactly the same font in
14.4, 14.6, 14.9.1, and 14.10.0.beta. I do see that echos are shifted
slightly to the left. So perhaps you can send me more specific commands in
order to see the  problem.


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Rolf Huehne 
wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> in Jmol version 14.9.1 echo text seems to be much smaller than in
> version 14.6.4 or earlier versions.
>
> The command 'font echo 15 sansSerif bold' produces now very tiny text
> for me compared to version 14.6.4. To get a similarly sized text it is
> necessary for me to set the size to approximately '35' instead of '15'
> ('font echo 35 sansSerif bold').
>
> And when I hover an atom a flood of messages like this appears in the
> Java console:
> 
> script manager starting 0
> Thread[QueueThread0,1,file:jmol-14.9.1/jsmol/java/-threadGroup]
> script manager starting 1
> Thread[QueueThread1,1,file:jmol-14.9.1/jsmol/java/-threadGroup]
> 
>
> Kind regards,
> Rolf
>
> 
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[Jmol-users] the announced death of Java - one more push

[Angel Herráez]

Dear Jmol users,


You should be aware that Firefox 
has joined the trend to abandon Java
applets and the latest release can no longer run Jmol in pages. Of course,
JSmol-html5 is perfectly functional.  Google Chrome and Microsoft 
Edge are
another 2 major browser that cannot run Jmol-Java.


Firefox 52 (released this week) does not support the NPAPI format of
plug-íns and hence cannot run Java applets, Shockwave Player animations
(DCR files, Macromedia Director), external PDF viewers inside the browser,
etc. Running Flash Player animations/videos has been kept as an exception.


Please be aware of this for older Jmol pages. 


If you are the page author / developer
, it is most urgent that you convert
your pages to use the JSmol.min.js library and enable 
HTML5 modality by
default.
http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php/Jmol_JavaScript_Object#Converting_pages_from_Jmol_to_JSmol


If you are a user / visitor
, be sure which browser you pick. MS Internet
Explorer (versions 9 to 11) still supports Jmol-Java (and is rather slow with
JSmol-html5); Safari in the MacOSX is also running Java.
Other browsers that retain Java compatibility are Mozilla SeaMonkey (not
clear for how long) and Pale Moon (indefinitely by decision of the developers,
at least while Oracle continues to deliver the Java Plugin)


More specific details and alternatives at
http://www.proteopedia.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_and_enabling_Java


  



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Re: [Jmol-users] the announced death of Java - one more push

[Rolf Huehne]

Am 17.03.17 um 10:40 schrieb Angel Herráez:
> Dear Jmol users,
>
> You should be aware that *Firefox * has joined the trend to abandon Java
> applets and the latest release can no longer run Jmol in pages. Of
> course, JSmol-html5 is perfectly functional.  Google *Chrome *and
> Microsoft *Edge *are another 2 major browser that cannot run Jmol-Java.
>
> Firefox 52 (released this week) does not support the NPAPI format of
> plug-íns and hence cannot run Java applets, Shockwave Player animations
> (DCR files, Macromedia Director), external PDF viewers inside the
> browser, etc. Running Flash Player animations/videos has been kept as an
> exception.
>
There is a fork of 'Firefox' called 'Waterfox' 
(https://www.waterfoxproject.org/) that stays almost identical to 
'Firefox' but addresses restrictions like these. So at least until the 
NPAPI support code is removed completely Jmol-Java should still run with 
it. And it also enables the 64-bit Java-Plugin on Windows, providing 
more RAM for Jmol if needed.

I havn't tested 'Waterfox 52' yet but the release notes say that the 
restriction of NPAPI support to FLASH were removed.

Regards,
Rolf

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