Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

I think it gets back to the issue of what is embedded in what. The magic of the Jmol applet, of course, is that you can embed it in whatever context you want -- Jena3D, for example. This is not directly possible for the Jmol application. (It can be done, but you have to be a Java programmer to do

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

Am 09.06.17 um 15:21 schrieb Robert Hanson: Yes. By "felt" you mean that the browser will manage its threads relating to tabs and other dyanamic content (e.g. ads), and it may shift a running JavaScript app to a lower priority more likely than a running Java application would or, in particular,

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

Am 09.06.17 um 15:21 schrieb Robert Hanson: I think we're one level off here. You can always run Jmol.jar if you want Jmol's desktop application, and nothing is going to change about that. It isn't an applet, so there is no browser issue. I don't think that Jmol's current desktop application

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

I don't know anything about JavaFX, but it's not clear to me there has >> been any development on it since 2012 or 2014. Maybe just an idea that >> never took off? Do you see some advantage to this? >> >> Since I don't have done any Java programming I will know even less. When > I spoke to a

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

Am 08.06.17 um 19:44 schrieb Robert Hanson: On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Rolf Huehne > wrote: Am 08.06.17 um 14:41 schrieb Robert Hanson: RIP, Java applets. Since there still are many situations where the

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Rolf Huehne wrote: > Am 08.06.17 um 14:41 schrieb Robert Hanson: > >> RIP, Java applets. >> >> Since there still are many situations where the superior Java performance > would be helpful (large structures; surfaces; complex Jmol

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

Am 08.06.17 um 14:41 schrieb Robert Hanson: RIP, Java applets. Since there still are many situations where the superior Java performance would be helpful (large structures; surfaces; complex Jmol scripts that are running about 50 times slower in the Javascript version) it would still be

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

Hi, Henry, In addition to Internet Explorer 11* (still included in Windows 10 as far as I know), several minor browsers that still supported Java when last I checked in March 2017 are listed here: http://proteopedia.org/w/Installing_and_enabling_Java#Browsers_That_Support_Java * See

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

09/29/2005 08:18 AM 1,813,012 ch3cl-density.cub 09/17/2006 07:47 AM 600,830 ch3cl-density.cub.gz 06/08/2017 08:39 AM 4,631 ch3cl-density.jvxl 06/08/2017 08:40 AM 2,928 ch3cl-density.jvxl.gz So that is 390:1 with just the JVXL, or 619:1 compression

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

> On 8 Jun 2017, at 13:45, Robert Hanson wrote: > > ps -- neither of the VMD images at > http://www.ch.imperial.ac.uk/rzepa/blog/?p=18365#comment-243964 are volume > rendering, by the way. They are just surfaces, one with reflection; one just > a mesh. Right? Yes. The

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

ps -- neither of the VMD images at http://www.ch.imperial.ac.uk/rzepa/blog/?p=18365#comment-243964 are volume rendering, by the way. They are just surfaces, one with reflection; one just a mesh. Right? On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: > RIP, Java

Re: [Jmol-users] Java will go from Safari as well as already gone from Opera, FF and Chrome

RIP, Java applets. On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 5:29 AM, Rzepa, Henry S wrote: > I have had a look at Safari preview 32. In the preferences/security tab, > the current production safari has settings for > > 1. Allow WebGL > 2. Allow Internet Plugins, and in this latter one