[lace] Warding off arthritis

2009-04-11 Thread Jean Nathan
Liz wrote: She might have just held the bottom tip, - or the spangle (a definate No-No!!) If I didn't hold bobbins by the spangles I would be able to make lace at all, so it's too bad if it's a No-No!!, I'll continue doing it - I have no intention of giving up the one of the few remaining

[lace] Rough bobbins

2009-04-11 Thread Alex Stillwell
Dear Arachnids I was once given a lot of bobbins that would have been very cheap when purchased but were very grimy and rough. As they were not valuable I smoothed them with some very fine, 00 or 000 flour paper (a very fine form of sand paper) smoothing them with the grain where possible, and

RE: [lace] rough

2009-04-11 Thread Karen Zammit Manduca
Some of the commercial bobbins made in Gozo tend to be rather rough, but sometimes people just have to purchase those if they need bobbins in a hurry for a new project. What we do to give them a quick fix is to get two or more bobbins and hold them between the palms of our hands - sort of hands

Re: [lace] Seekng advice was: Pewter bobbins

2009-04-11 Thread Lesley Blackshaw
Thank you all for your replies. I think that as they are very plain bobbins I might take Clay's advice and keep them for emergencies. I was very disappointed when I bought them but I'd already left eBay positive feedback as I got the purchase mixed up with another I'd made at the same time,

RE: [lace] Warding off arthritis

2009-04-11 Thread Daphne Martin
Why is holding the bobbin by its spangle a no no??? Surely how you hold a bobbin to make lace is immaterial. Making lace is the important bit is`nt it??? If you still can make lovely lace by holding a certain part of the bobbin then do so. Why should we give up lacemaking because of

Fw: [lace] Warding off arthritis

2009-04-11 Thread Sue
I agree if the choice was hold them by the spangle or not lace I would do just as I needed to. Much more important to make lace and enjoy making it. Mostly making lace is quite good for the blood pressure too, when its working well and I am enjoying the rhythm of the bobbins. Sue T, Dorset

[lace] Yellow Starch and ruffs (long)

2009-04-11 Thread Jane Partridge
In message c5e.5281b8cb.37111...@aol.com, dmt11h...@aol.com writes In Aileen Ribiero's book about 17th century fashion, and in other books there is reference to one Ann Turner who went to her hanging in yellow starched lace. As I emailed Devon last night, I remembered quoting the passage

Re: [lace] Warding off arthritis

2009-04-11 Thread Agnes Boddington
I often pick up the bobbins by the spangle, as I find it a lot easier. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK Daphne Martin wrote: Why is holding the bobbin by its spangle a no no??? Surely how you hold a bobbin to make lace is immaterial. Making lace is the important bit is`nt it??? If you still

[lace] Handling bobbins - was arthritis

2009-04-11 Thread Laceandbits
As far as I can see, there are two reason why I wouldn't 'encourage' a new lacemaker to move bobbins by picking up the spangles. The first is that the spangles need to be replaced more frequently. This I know as I went through a phase as a new, self-taught lacemaker of moving my bobbins in

[lace] Arthritis - pins

2009-04-11 Thread Laceandbits
First of all, a sidestep. Can anyone tell me the origin (and meaning) of the saying For two pins.. Now to the point (pardon the pun) of the post. We have been discussing moving bobbins with arthritic hands but one of my students with very bad arthritis and bad, cracking eczema on her

[lace] Holding bobbins by the spangle

2009-04-11 Thread Beth Marshall
I think I know why picking up bobbins by the spangle is - from a conservation point of view - a no-no. Over the last couple of years I've had an ever increasing number of spangles break while working - at first I thought it was just on a few bobbins I'd spangled with finer than usual wire, but

[lace] raffle has been drawn

2009-04-11 Thread Sue
I got DH to give me two numbers from 1 - 41 (the number of names held for this pattern raffle) and although there are names from various countries in the world the two lucky names drawn are both in the UK. I listed all the names that came through to join this raffle, in the order they came in

[lace] Holding bobbins by the spangle

2009-04-11 Thread Margot Walker
On 11 Apr 2009, at 10:14, Beth Marshall wrote: I don't think it ought to stop those who can't comfortably handle bobbins by the shaft making lace - it takes a long time to break a spangle, and spangles can be replaced/rewired when they break I don't hold my bobbins by the spangles.

[lace] Re: Yellow Starch and ruffs (long)

2009-04-11 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 4/11/2009 7:41:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jpartri...@pebble.demon.co.uk writes: In message c5e.5281b8cb.37111...@aol.com, dmt11h...@aol.com writes In Aileen Ribiero's book about 17th century fashion, and in other books there is reference to one Ann Turner who went to her

Re: [lace] Warding Off Arthritis

2009-04-11 Thread Ilske Thomsen
It's very interesting to read what experience you made and heard about metall and arthritis. Here in Germany they don't believe in copper but in magnetism. And there excist extremly expensive methods to get such radition treatment, nine times for 980 Euro only for the hands. My doctor told

Re: [lace] Holding bobbins by the spangle

2009-04-11 Thread Norma Harris
Being a newbie to this beautiful skill I'm always on the lookout for helpful hints and as soon as I post this I'm going to go get a nice size safty pin to put in my kit.  Thanks! Norma http://normasneedlez.blogspot.com http://sistersstitching.blogspot.com NATA #847 The new Internet

Re: [lace] Re: Yellow Starch and ruffs (long)

2009-04-11 Thread bev walker
A couple of musings - was Yellow Starch simply the name of the stiffening agent; the agent itself was the issue, rather than the yellow colour - given that other *vegetal* products could dye textiles yellow. Did it in fact turn the textile really yellow, or was it a mere tinge of yellow - enough

Re: [lace] Lace Products

2009-04-11 Thread Joy Beeson
On 4/11/09 10:06 AM, Diane Zierold wrote: Crochet Bicycle Basket http://aplusrstore.com/product_detail.php?show=productpid=314cid=57 I'm really partial to the black basket for my red bike -- but $70 US might be a bit much. Particularly when they refuse to say what it's made of. -- Joy

Re: [lace] Holding bobbins by the spangle

2009-04-11 Thread Scotlace
Margot What is a surgeon's knot, please? Patricia in Wales scotl...@aol.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com

Re: [lace] Lace Products

2009-04-11 Thread lucieduf
If you choose 'plastic' on the side bar, the bicycle basket comes up. Lucie Ottawa Canada On 4/11/09 10:06 AM, Diane Zierold wrote: Crochet Bicycle Basket http://aplusrstore.com/product_detail.php?show=productpid=314cid=57 I'm really partial to the black basket for my red bike -- but $70

[lace] gum arabic

2009-04-11 Thread lucieduf
gum arabic is available at art stores that sell water colour supplies Lucie Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com

[lace] Surgeon't know

2009-04-11 Thread Margot Walker
It's sort of a double reef knot: right thread/fishing line/what-have- you over the left and under and over the left and under again. Pull tight. (The knot won't slip while you do the second part.) Then left thread over the right and under and over the right and under. Pull tight.

[lace] Gum arabic

2009-04-11 Thread Laceandbits
or Gum Acacia is used commercially in foods and by artists doing water colour painting. You can buy it from an art shop in liquid form or sometimes from cake decorating (sugar craft?) shops as crystals. It is literally the gum exuded by some Acacia trees I was also told (by Pat Read, many

[lace] Handling bobbins

2009-04-11 Thread Jean Nathan
I handle bobbins by the spangle. The pins aren't vertical and I'm happy if I hit the hole - they go into the pricking at any angle so long as they go in. I can't feel the tension, so I judge by eye. I can't draw a design with a pencil because the dots would be all over the place even on graph

Re: [lace] Re: Yellow Starch and ruffs (long)

2009-04-11 Thread Dmt11home
In a message dated 4/11/2009 12:20:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, walker.b...@gmail.com writes: A couple of musings - was Yellow Starch simply the name of the stiffening agent; the agent itself was the issue, rather than the yellow colour - given that other *vegetal* products could dye

Re: [lace] Re: Yellow Starch and blueing

2009-04-11 Thread robinlace
bev walker walker.b...@gmail.com wrote: Did it in fact turn the textile really yellow, or was it a mere tinge of yellow - enough to associate the colour with the product, or was it white anyway, given that 'white' can be many shades Bev makes a good point. Blueing looks blue, and it

[lace] Re: pins

2009-04-11 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Apr 11, 2009, at 8:54, laceandb...@aol.com (Jacquie) wrote: First of all, a sidestep. Can anyone tell me the origin (and meaning) of the saying For two pins.. Don't know the origin but, the way I've always heard/seen ithe phrase used, meant without much encouragement or for a small

[lace] Re: Yellow Starch and ruffs

2009-04-11 Thread Jane Partridge
In message cd0.3cf25dd3.37124...@aol.com, dmt11h...@aol.com writes It would appear from the texts that the saffron was in the starch. But why they didn't simply dye the lace saffron, rather than it being part of the starch, I don't know. Also, why do you never see lace of that era in the

Re: [lace] Re: pins

2009-04-11 Thread Laceandbits
That was what I thought, but I've been wondering about this for quite some time (intermittently, you understand, not continuously) and in the process I had got to the stage where instead of Oh, for two pins I'd just do it myself I was wavering that it was more derogatory of what ever the task

Re: [lace] raffle has been drawn

2009-04-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hello Sue That sounds similar to what I'm doing with my raffle. I'm filtering all the entries into a separate mailbox and then I'll re-arrange the list alphabetically by the email addresses - that way there can be no advantage or disadvantage to the early or late entrants - and I'll ask

Re: [lace] Arthritis - pins

2009-04-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
So long as she's not trying to make very fine lace the glass headed pins are good. I tip I picked up from Jacqui Barber is to use glass headed pins when working with the very thick threads in a scarf or similar as they help stop the thickest threads from jumping over the top of the pinheads.

Re: [lace] Lace Products

2009-04-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
But if you are looking to find that bib/necklace it doesn't come up on any of the materials in the list on the side bar. I would have expected to see it under 'fabric' especially as they describe it as silk cotton lace which isn't bobbin work. The store also offer a black needlepoint neck

[lace] Real lace products

2009-04-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
If you have several hundred pounds to spare and can wait eight weeks or more for delivery go to http://www.within4walls.co.uk/tempsite/view_items.php?sub=49 and scroll to the bottom. Some of the lace names are a bit suspect but otherwise it's the real McCoy Brenda in Allhallows, Kent

Re: [lace] Lace Products

2009-04-11 Thread Clay Blackwell
u. looks like a plastic storage box to me! Clay Joy Beeson wrote: On 4/11/09 10:06 AM, Diane Zierold wrote: Crochet Bicycle Basket http://aplusrstore.com/product_detail.php?show=productpid=314cid=57 I'm really partial to the black basket for my red bike -- but $70 US might be a

Re: [lace] Handling bobbins

2009-04-11 Thread Clay Blackwell
Yay, JEAN!!! You have expressed exactly what I tell everyone when I'm demonstrating!!! And... the fact that you have disabilities to factor in doesn't change things at all!!! I always tell people that, for me, making lace is about the journey, not the destination. I enjoy the process.

Re: [lace] raffle has been drawn

2009-04-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Thanks for that Noelene I've been playing with it and I think I will actually use it for the raffle! Brenda On 11 Apr 2009, at 23:30, Noelene Lafferty wrote: Hi Brenda, If Terry is unco-operative, there's a random number generator at http://www.random.org/ Noelene in Cooma

[lace] Re: pins

2009-04-11 Thread robinlace
Tamara P Duvall t...@rockbridge.net wrote: Don't know the origin but, the way I've always heard/seen ithe phrase used, meant without much encouragement or for a small price. It's always used in the same way: for two pins, I'd... (do something or other). Must have been invented once the

Re: [lace] Arthritis - pins

2009-04-11 Thread bev walker
Would it help to use just a plain paper photocopy for the pricking, rather than stiff card. No need to pre-prick, the large-headed pins will go easily into the paper. If aiming the pin is itself a problem, then the lacemaker is of course better with a pre-made pricking. I have almost abandoned

[lace] Re Warding off arthritis.

2009-04-11 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Re holding a spangle to use the bobbin. Sorry - No offence was meant. I was taight that it was a Terrible Crime to hold the spangle, not the shank of the bobbin, as the spangles can break, - but if it is the difference between making lace, and Not making lace - then - Go for it. I heartily

[lace] Happy Birthday to Lace@Arachne.com

2009-04-11 Thread Jeriames
My calendar says that we started our friendships on April 12, 1995. Thank you Liz, for your generosity. Jeri Ames Lace and Embroidery Resource Center **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less.

[lace] Re: pins

2009-04-11 Thread Alice Howell
In 19th century USA, pins were used as an informal monetary unit. Remember stories like Tom Sawyer... admission to the performance the kids gave was a pin (or two). Back then our coin money was worth something, and for values less than a penny they used pins. I don't remember how many pins

[lace] Happy Birthday Arachne

2009-04-11 Thread Alice Howell
Yes... the 12th of April, 1995, is the day Arachne came on line. Liz Reynolds is the creator (and owner) of the Lace List. Thanks so much, Liz, for thinking of this and having the knowledge and access to a computer that could handle the List. Even though Liz is no longer a regular

[lace-chat] Re: only 1 needle (moved from Lace)

2009-04-11 Thread Alice Howell
There's more than one story from early USA history of people sharing a single needle. It was passed from person to person in a set rotation. Each lady saved her mending until the days she got the needle. To keep the needle safe during transport, it was inserted in a potato. A potato was

[lace-chat] Happy Birthday Arachne

2009-04-11 Thread Alice Howell
Yes... the 12th of April, 1995, is the day Arachne came on line. Liz Reynolds is the creator (and owner) of the Lace List. Thanks so much, Liz, for thinking of this and having the knowledge and access to a computer that could handle the List. Even though Liz is no longer a regular