RE: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-24 Thread Annette Meldrum
Hi Devon and all. I did some research into the early tapes for my book on Borris Lace. See p.14 Mezzo Punto was first employed by lacemakers in Milan and Genoa in the 17th century according to Mrs Head, The Lace and Embroidery Collector, 1922, p33. The manufacture of braids was an important craft

[lace] Bobbin made tape and Pricking

2013-11-24 Thread Margaret Crocker
There is a type of lace in Malta, examples of which can still be seen in convents, which is called 'Trina' and which was made using a bobbin-made tape and needlelace fillings. Early examples use bobbin-made tape, later ones use machine-made tape. Weaving was a very common occupation

[lace] Copying lace prickings

2013-11-24 Thread Leonard Bazar
One thing the discussions of this - using heelball, pricking through original prickings etc - makes very clear that the photocopiers we now take for granted are a very modern invention, and most of us can remember when they were unreliable - distorted, shrunk patterns on odd shiney paper that

Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-24 Thread Lyn Bailey
By now I should not be amazed by the amount of collective erudition there is in Arachne, but this discussion is an example. One must also remember the inkle loom, which is particularly good at making tapes of all kinds. And the saying, from I forget where, thick as inkle weavers probably

[lace] The Lace Place

2013-11-24 Thread Sue Harvey
Hi to Australian Lacemakers, my son has just returned from a tour of Australia mainly out of Perth. On his trip he came across a shop called The Lace Place in small town called Hyden. he went in because he knew how I liked lace and was surprised to find it was like a little museum of lace

Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto-ribbon loom?

2013-11-24 Thread Dmt11home
Thanks Annette. This is very helpful. There seems to have been something called a ribbon loom which could weave multiple narrow ribbons simultaneously. There are some photos of the loom on the site of the Comines Ribbon Industry Museum http://ribbonindustrymuseum.wordpress.com/ I wonder

Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto-ribbon loom?

2013-11-24 Thread Malvary Cole
The thought of ribbon making came to me last night in bed. Coventry was a centre of ribbon making in England and the silk used was, in the 1800's was 'farmed' in the Cotswolds and the occupations of women and girls that I've come across in doing our family research shows that many were

Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-24 Thread Bev Walker
The tape lace discussion is most interesting. In further erudition, 'inkle' means small; having made inkle tapes on the associated contraption, I don't see how the sewing edge can be achieved, as in bobbin lace. The warp threads on the inkle loom can only be of a given length, whereas with bobbin

Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-24 Thread Dmt11home
The tapes in question do not have a sewing edge as in a twist, twist, whole stitch, twist, twist. There are no spaces. They are solid like a shoe lace. Some are woven perpendicularly. Some appear to be woven diagonally. If you look at the piece, 88.2.7 on the museum site, a piece said to

RE: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto-ribbon loom?

2013-11-24 Thread Annette Meldrum
No I did not find any references to ribbon but it is another interesting crossover. Annette in Wollongong, Australia -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of dmt11h...@aol.com Sent: Monday, 25 November 2013 1:50 AM To:

Re: [lace] The Lace Place

2013-11-24 Thread Ruth Budge
The Lace Place is located in the Tourist Centre at Wave Rock, Hyden. Hyden is approx. 400 kms from Perth.The original collection belonged to one of the leading ladies in Perth many years ago and I believe the lace was taken to Hyden by a relative after her death. A couple of months ago,

Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto-ribbon loom?

2013-11-24 Thread KATRINA WORLEY
Weaver here, and one who works with band looms and historic techniques. The older term for “ribbon” comes from it’s woven structure… “rib band”, so you might also see the spelling “ribband” in the older references. These bands were often woven with a close-set warp and a weft that’s pulled tight,

[lace] 17th c. premade tapes mezzo punto

2013-11-24 Thread Lorelei Halley
Devon: These are the thoughts and questions that spring to mind upon looking at your example. 1st: I did see several Genoese early laces at the Art Institute of Chicago which had what looked like continuous tallies, made with more than 2 pairs. In the photo you have showed us there is too much

[lace] pinterest board

2013-11-24 Thread Lorelei Halley
Good idea, Laurie! I have had some contacts ask for conservators and appraisers, and was never able to make suggestions. I'm sure you'll find some, somewhere. Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to

Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes mezzo punto

2013-11-24 Thread Dmt11home
I realize that this is not a good example because the photography does not allow you to see the transitions. I also realize I have some photos of privately owned pieces that I could post on one of the Ning sites. (Sorry, have never gotten the hang of the arachne flicker site.) What group do

Re: [lace] The Lace Place

2013-11-24 Thread Sue Harvey
Thank you Ruth for all that information. I had an email from Shirley Meier about The Lace Place and checked it out, they do have a small site online it just made me wish even more that it was me that holidayed in Australia and not my son. Him and his wife had a wonderful time over there and

Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-24 Thread Shelly
I wonder if these were made on a tape loom. I had the opportunity to get a photo of one at a historical site a few years ago : http://www.flickr.com/photos/8617487@N08/3690979159/in/set-72157621006080174/ It would make sense that it was made on a loom instead of by bobbins. Also, it makes me

RE: [lace] The Lace Place

2013-11-24 Thread Barbara Ballantyne
www.waverock.com.au/lace.htm provides a brief description of the Lace Place in Hyden which I visited a few years ago to see the Irish crochet lace collection. It is well worth a visit and I thoroughly enjoyed it. It is not well known in the tourist industry and I needed help to find out about

Re: [lace] 17th c. premade tapes, Mezzo Punto

2013-11-24 Thread Bev Walker
Good photo, this is a rigid heddle loom. A drawback to this device is abrasion on the threads. Short lengths of tape/weaving/cord/lace/bands whatever to call the smallwares, would be strong and possibly quite thick in proportion to their width. Something else to think about, in the time period of