I'm not 100 percent convinced of a math/engineering link with bobbin lace.
First of all, I noticed years ago a lot of other sciences in
lacemaking--biology (my field), chemistry, psychology, etc. Also science
fiction fanatics who never went into science (or math, computers, etc.). I
think
Hi Elena,
It would be interesting to do a survey of the bobbin-lacemaking members of
IOLI about area of education, highest degree obtained and when, career
field, types of bobbin lace specialized in, maybe things like primarily
self-taught or not, others?, and compare the stats from that to stats
Hello all,
The seemingly natural attraction of those in the STEM field to lacemaking
has fascinated me for some time. I remember attending Ithaca Lace Day a
couple of years ago and after repeatedly hearing that so-and-so was a
mathematician or scientist, and I was intrigued by the connection. My
Daddy was a farm boy who ended up a thermonuclear physicist. I do not like
numbers, but math without numbers is easy. Logic, making triangles congruent,
seeing patterns, noticing differences, Easy peasy. My kids aren't any better
with numbers, but they had calculators, so my daughter is an
PS: Google books lists the senior author of her book as Gertrude Biedermann
(...ie... and two n's):
https://books.google.com/books/about/Traditional_Bobbin_Lace.html?id=dwcZCAAJ
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> On Fri, May 18, 2018, 14:39 Jeri Ames wrote:
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>> ...In the interest of clarity for present
A few observations:
First there were indeed computer engineers who were lacemakers in the
1980s. I started programming in the mid-1960s (well before PCs or Macs or
the Internet), and I was mesmerized by making bobbin lace from the first
time I saw it done in the mid-1980s. For the first several
It seems to me that lacemaking provides many things to many people. Small
children can learn simple Torchon patterns quite easily. Adults with no
particular math skills may make lace their whole lives without ever finding a
need to go dig out their trig tables (yes, I know that dates me, but
Yes, Queen Elizabeth’s coronation gown had Commonwealth emblems embroidered on
it. It was designed by Hartnell & embroidered at the Royal School. Susan
Hottle USA
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> On May 19, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Sue Harvey wrote:
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> The embroidery on it was the
Marjory Carter, who I mentioned as my Bucks point tutor, had been a maths
teacher in a grammar school, until she retired. She learned her lace from a
lady with whom she lodged when she was training as a teacher. I started to take
courses with her in 1980, so I guess she would have retired in
I saw a program at the Royal School of Needlework. Â They said they could not
comment on any project but they would not deny working on the wedding. I assume
they  made the veil. We should hear more about it soon.
Alice in Oregon
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The embroidery on it was the emblems of the 53 Commonwealth countries,we we
told the queens veil also had the Commonwealth emblems on It too but at that
time they were only 8 in number.
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK
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I have heard this mentioned before too that many lacemakers are in these
fields. I, myself, have a Mathmatics degree and worked as a software engineer
for 20+ years. However, I really don’t think my math skills have anything to do
with my ability to make lace. I sorely lack in artistic skills
Friends
Both Devon and Alex Stillwell have pointed out to me that some of the
finest lacemakers are mathematicians and computer engineers. It makes
intuitive sense.
I have a math learning disability so I wouldn't be able to follow more than
superficially, but allowing for that, does anyone have
I actually heard about the 53 Commonwealth flowers but didnât pick up
that they were on the veil. Must have been pouring myself more tea.
Thanks Susie!
Lyn from Lancaster PA
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Here's what I've found out about the veil.
The veil was the real show-stopper!
On Sat, 19 May 2018 at 5:11 PM, Susan wrote:
> What a knock out veil!
I thought so too.
Karen in Malta
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> On 19 May 2018, at 15:11, Brenda Paternoster
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> TV commentary said that it is embroidered with the national flower from each
> Commonwealth country. 53 of them.
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I guess that's
What a knock out veil! I immediately wondered if the flowers were tamboured?
So far, all I’ve seen online is “hand embroidered” & absolutely no mention of
the Royal School. Curious to know what others know about this piece; how &
where it might have been made. Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA
TV commentary said that it is embroidered with the national flower from each
Commonwealth country. 53 of them.
Brenda
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> What do we know about the lace veil?
Brenda in Allhallows
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BBC said "embroidered flowers" on the veil. The flowers representing all
of the 53 members of the Commonwealth. I hope we'll be able to see some
close-ups. Very elegant dress!
Jane in Vermont, USA who has enjoyed the festivities so far
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> Beautiful wedding. Sadly no lace on
Beautiful wedding. Sadly no lace on the dress, but a beautiful one
nonetheless. What do we know about the lace veil?
Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it is pouring rain and chilly.
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Hi fellow Arachnids,
Well said Alex! Just my sentiments. Always remembering that one does need to
be able to use the tools and techniques of yesteryear as well as the NEW tools
and techniques to create modern beauty for the future.
Happy lace making,
Joepie, East Sussex, UK on a beautiful sunny
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> On 19 May 2018, at 08:09, Alex Stillwell wrote:
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> Surely what
> matters is producing something that is beautiful and will stand the test of
> time, I think Marjorie thought the same way.
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Re: Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 22:40:48 +0100
From: Kathleen Harris
Subject: [lace] Traditional and modern lace.
I started making lace in 1970, and in 1980 I started to learn Bucks point
I agree. I teach traditional lacemaking but will also help students develop
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