Re: [lace] Plaiting finger braids

2003-06-21 Thread Adele Shaak
On Saturday, June 21, 2003, at 03:12 PM, A Thompson wrote: I can't help wondering if finger braiding is not such a basic technique, that it could have been invented in more than one World area at the same time, like weaving. I have no knowledge of the history of finger braiding, but there has

Re: [lace] Lacemaker's clamps on ebay

2003-06-26 Thread Adele Shaak
What would lacemakers clamp with these? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3230773387 They look like thread reels to me, though I haven't seen them in clamp form before. But that wouldn't restrict them to lacemakers - anybody who didn't want to chase a spool across a floor

Fwd: [lace] polychrome

2003-07-15 Thread Adele Shaak
One difficulty with point ground bobbin lace is that every pair splits up at each pin. The 's Gravenmoer lace I recently took used Dieppe ground (CTT pin CTT) in which each pair just zig-zags between the pinholes, but carries straight down the lace rather than crossing at an angle. There are

Re: [lace] Springett videos (Purchase Clarification)

2003-07-16 Thread Adele Shaak
On Wednesday, July 16, 2003, at 02:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but perhaps people in the UK (who should buy VHS format videos) and USA (who should buy NTSC format videos) need a reminder. Hi Jeri and anyone else who is interested: The format used in the UK and many other countries is called

Re: [lace] Lace-trimmed smock or shirt to wear when demonstrating

2003-07-26 Thread Adele Shaak
And as for finding a use for our wonderful laces?? Takes 12 to 15 yards of insertion... Everyone always asks how I'm going to use up the 5 metres of lace that I made for the 5-metre club, but if I made one of these hats I'd only just be getting started: While I was on vacation this year I

Re: [lace] Point de Dresden

2003-07-28 Thread Adele Shaak
Dresden Embroidered Lace. This is an embroidery that was done in the 18th Century on very fine muslin (modern-day embroiderers use coarser materials) The book Danish Pulled Thread Embroidery has been widely available for many years (I think it is a Dover book but I can't lay my hands on it

Re: [lace] Three Pair Fiandra stitch

2003-07-31 Thread Adele Shaak
On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 07:11 PM, Nicole Gauthier wrote: Well, the ribbon is pinless, it curls on itself and the join is made by a twisted bar made with one thread. The bar is twisted with a crochet in a way that is not easy to work on a cookie pillow. To help keep the form , like in a

Re: Subject: [lace] Summer projects

2003-08-03 Thread Adele Shaak
On Sunday, August 3, 2003 Bridget wrote: However I must persevere, as I have booked for a Binche course in February, and everybody says you need to grasp Flanders first. Since everybody says this I guess I'm sticking my neck out here, but here I go with my own personal opinion: I think

Re: [lace] Re: Canadian hankie Blanks

2003-08-14 Thread Adele Shaak
Sorry I can't help with Canadian sourcing, but you should be looking at yardage fabric or maybe a good quality man's hankie which you can cut down. I think that if anyone had a Canadian source, he would have posted by now. I answered privately, but it just occurred to me that others may want

Re: [lace] Re: Velvet stops the bobbins rolling

2003-08-14 Thread Adele Shaak
On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 07:03 AM, Carol Adkinson wrote: velvet is *not* a good fabric to use as cover cloth or pillow cloth or for anything near to the threads, as the fibre nap from the velvet can get into the threads. I used my velveteen-covered roller pillow for 20 years and did not

Re: [lace] Continental bobbins

2003-08-14 Thread Adele Shaak
Alice wrote When the slightly domed 'cookie' pillow was developed, the spangled bobbin was developed to lay better on the pillow. but let's remember that the spangled bobbin was developed in just one area - lots of other people managed without spangles. I have heard that the careful and

Re: [lace] English translations

2003-08-21 Thread Adele Shaak
Jean wrote: And how many of us have learned another language? We rather arrogantly expect everyone else to learn English and pander to us. I have cheerfully written letters in bad German and not-so-bad French in order to buy stuff overseas. Often I get a response in near-perfect English,

Re: [lace] Hi...IOLI thoughts

2003-08-23 Thread Adele Shaak
While I was in England I bought a bobbin for a souvenir in a lace store that was in the cobbles of York. BTWif anyone on the list can tell me what the name and address of that store in York please let me know. Years ago..I tried writing to York to find out and all they sent me was

Re: [lace] businesses that care for linens

2003-08-24 Thread Adele Shaak
I am also in a quandry because many of these items from the 20's have negligible value, but they are now 80 years old. What should people be doing with them? Should they use them, in which case, can anything 80 years old actually withstand washing, even let's say 4 times a year after family

[lace] Miss Channer and Copyright

2003-08-28 Thread Adele Shaak
I knew when I sent the message earlier today that a few replies would be posted. All of the copyright information you ever wanted to know is on the Internet. First, international copyright legislation is for the most part governed by the Berne Convention, which you will find at:

Re: [lace] Re: Thinking person's lace - what about Binche?

2003-09-09 Thread Adele Shaak
Several of us seem agreed that many bobbin laces, certainly floral Beds, and some of us (at least me) floral Bucks, are for thinking persons, what about Binche? It's generally thought the most complex now widely made, and I should have thought at least as much brain power goes into it. It

Re: [lace] Re: Binche - Was Thinking person's lace

2003-09-10 Thread Adele Shaak
But compare the fully evolved (i.e. gorgeous) Thomas Lester designs with the best of the Binche, and you may think that the writer of the above quote perhaps had a point Of course, one person's gorgeous is another persons yuck. Not that I'm saying Bucks is yucky, but different people have

Re: [lace] Lazy susan and thanks

2003-09-10 Thread Adele Shaak
I think the original term for this tool was lazy maidbut since lazy susan As a point of absolute trivia, did you know that Susan was a typical maid's name - back in the days when people had huge houses with huge staffs, different servants were often referred to by standard names, saving

Re: [lace] Lace Terminology - Bedfordshire/Torchon

2003-09-12 Thread Adele Shaak
Jenny wrote: In Gabrielle Pond's book An Introduction to Lace she refers to Bedfordshire as a Torchon lace. Yes, um, ... that's the book I was quoting from. I just wondered if everybody else did too or if it was just her. Since I wrote that message I read a little in Emily Jackson's Old

Re: [lace] Point de Venise a reseau

2003-09-19 Thread Adele Shaak
Devon wrote: Gwynne plays it safe saying that The geometiric features could lead one to believee that this is a Venetian lace; however, according to one late C20 school of thougth this is an early Brussels lace. Do my fellow Arachnids have an opinion on this? If you had the resources of a lace

Re: [lace] Working with silk thread

2003-09-25 Thread Adele Shaak
Annette Gill wrote: I've read that lace made with silk is softer and drapes better than cotton lace. Since I want to make lace for dolls house dolls' costumes, a softer lace would be better. Can anyone tell me if silk is difficult to work with? I'm a beginner and was wondering if it's

Re: [lace] It isn't a lace bobbin on ebay

2003-09-26 Thread Adele Shaak
I think it's a stiletto. Take a look at this stiletto: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3241092100 the point is about the same size and shape. About the hole in the end - possibly for threading a ribbon through, to help you keep track of your stiletto? Maybe it went on a

[lace] Chats on Old Lace Needlework

2003-09-29 Thread Adele Shaak
I thought I'd mention that a copy of the book Chats on Old Lace Needlework is for sale right now on ebay. It is at http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3554102670 I thought I would bid on it but I see the seller only takes PayPal so I decided not to. The auction ends tomorrow.

Re: [lace] Is Lace Declining? - Can anybody help?

2003-09-30 Thread Adele Shaak
Just my 2 cents' worth: Perhaps I'm overly optimistic, but I don't think lace is declining so much as that it is in the downswing of a pendulum-like movement. I find that all hobbies and crafts are subject to the same variations. Remember how popular knitting was in the 1980s? In Vancouver in

[lace] Re: rippled pages

2003-10-01 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Arachnes: My email program seems to have taken a dislike to AOL email addresses, and is refusing to reply directly to either Tess or Devon, but as this is of some general interest I'll send it to the list. After Devon reminded me that there are other ways to buy used books than on ebay

[lace] Re: Bookfinder/rejection of AOL addresses

2003-10-01 Thread Adele Shaak
Devon wrote: I think the ebay bidding often stops right at the price that you can get things on Bookfinder. My approach is go right to Bookfinder and eliminate the suspense. Well, I use the Advanced Book Exchange ( http://www.abebooks.com ) because I think it has more books (14 copies of Chats

Re: [lace] INVALUABLE PAIR Bobbin Holders. UNUSED. on ebay

2003-10-07 Thread Adele Shaak
Well, here's a novel use for opening rings. Thanks for brightening up my morning. I'm still laughing. I wonder what cheap everyday household object will we next see touted for sale? Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) PS: for those who missed it, the URL is

Re: [lace] Symbols for elements

2003-10-13 Thread Adele Shaak
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 12:23 PM, Esther Perry wrote: A quick reference to the book Looking at Indian Art of the Northwest Coast by Hilary Stewart shows as design motifs many animals, the sun, the moon and the human. No mention of the four elements. Nor have I ever heard stories

[lace] Hamilton Lace

2003-10-13 Thread Adele Shaak
Well, the turkey's ready, the stuffing is made, the pumpkin pie is cooling and the kitchen is clean. (for those of you who haven't figured it out yet, today is Thanksgiving in Canada) At last I have some time to ponder a lacemaking mystery. It seems to me that a couple of years ago there was

Re: [lace] Magnifiers

2003-10-16 Thread Adele Shaak
Marcie wrote: ... the Royal School of Needlework recommends going without magnification for even the finest work, tho a good strong light is crucial. The original post on this (from Jane) also mentioned I did notice that I am tempted to put in more buttonhole stitches on the edge when I can see

Re: [lace] Crochet threads

2003-10-26 Thread Adele Shaak
A woman in the USA is crocheting my grandfather's baby bonnet and tells me that over there Coats no longer make the thread I recommended, which was Coats-Mercer crochet cotton #40. It seems that Coats have renamed their crochet threads Floretta and Eldorado. ... Just thought I'd mention that

Re: [lace] Sivewright and Pope cape

2003-10-31 Thread Adele Shaak
Not having heard the word before, I'd assumed that a cope was a cape, probably to go round the shoulders, but I just happened across the word 'cope' this morning, and the definition given is priest's long cloaklike vestment. So the pricking isn't for what I thought it was, but that doesn't make

[lace] Slave-driving teachers

2003-11-04 Thread Adele Shaak
Among other things, she said that, in the US, she is called a slave driver, because she pushes for perfection, I have noticed a difference between what I'll call traditional European teaching and the way adult students learn in North America, and while I think that the self-indulgence Tamara

Re: [lace] Ebay -- lace making thimble

2003-11-28 Thread Adele Shaak
Hmmm...as always, I'm taking the eBay description with a grain of salt. It may be that the person who used this thimble used it to make lace (probably needle lace) but it is just a regular decorated sewing thimble, possibly late Victorian (?). The coat of arms could be the crest of a

Re: [lace] Famous lacemakers

2003-12-13 Thread Adele Shaak
Roslyn wrote: I read this week a filler in the paper that said all the famous lacemakers were men. Hey, I'm fascinated to know that where Roslyn lives they have a newspaper that still needs to use filler! I haven't seen any since the 60s. I used to love those little bits of information! (For

Re: [lace] lacemakers lamp

2003-12-27 Thread Adele Shaak
Is a miniature lacemakers lamp of any practical use? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2582370085 Pardon my skepticism, but isn't this ... a vase? Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe

Re: [lace] ... judging machine made lace (long)

2004-01-01 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi all: Regarding the Battle of Britain panel, a few people have mentioned its historical connection, but nobody has yet mentioned the huge difference that may make in price. The Battle of Britain took place before the US was involved in the war, so some may not understand its importance, or

Re: [lace] Re: blue film

2004-01-01 Thread Adele Shaak
then using a glue stick on the right side of the pattern, stick it to x ray plate. You could use us all the old xrays you had lying around or get waste plates from the local hospital through contacts. Hi Jan - I think the situation is reversed now - you can get sticky film but can you still get

Re: [lace] Strange lace bobbins on ebay

2004-01-04 Thread Adele Shaak
They're listed as lace making bobbins, they've got thread wound on them and they could be used as lace bobbins. But if they are lace bobbins, where do they come from? If they're not, what are they? The only impression of scale is the thread.

Re: [lace] Couture = Art

2004-01-04 Thread Adele Shaak
a new book - Shocking! The Art and Fashion of Elsa Schiaparelli, by Dilys E. Blum, Curator of Costume and Textiles at the Philadelphia Museum of Art. Hi all - sounds like a great book. I have always been a big Schiaparelli fan, ever since I saw her famous lobster evening gown. I don't recall

Re: [lace] Re: Big finishing for lace project

2004-01-11 Thread Adele Shaak
Another topic I haven't seen covered yet is what to do with the piece of fabric you intend to sew your lace to. Your description of how you plan to attach the lace to the fabric is great. *But* - and this is a really big but - very few framers, anywhere, will properly attach the fabric to the

Re: [lace] framing lace

2004-01-11 Thread Adele Shaak
but even out in the sticks here we have framers who are using modern framing techniques. One thing I wanted to make clear in my last post is that I am talking about framers **who specialize in textiles** and use the sticky mounting board. Framers who have testimonials from museums, people who

[lace] IOLI Bulletin Discussion

2004-01-14 Thread Adele Shaak
Would it be appropriate to move this entire discussion to chat? The topic isn't really about lacemaking and this list has lots of members who don't get the IOLI bulletin anyway. Adele Curmudgeon in Training North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL

Re: [lace] need help

2004-01-16 Thread Adele Shaak
So far all I've thought of is pre-winding all but one pair of bobbins (I feel they must know how to wind a bobbin properly) and perhaps starting with the Springetts Snake? Any idea what's the average length of time that should take for a beginner? I was hoping that I'd get that done in the

Re: [lace] Making Time for Lace

2004-01-18 Thread Adele Shaak
Jeri, I know you said you thought your message wasn't worth commenting on, but I feel that since you posted it I ought to mention: I have one friend who became a successful published author that way. I have another friend who became mentally ill from lack of sleep. Voices, suicide attempts,

Re: [lace] Re: wardrobe of the Prince of Ligne

2004-01-18 Thread Adele Shaak
Did the Prince of Ligne double as the Princess of the same area? 'cause his wardrobe doesn't seem to be very masculine overall... I took the trouble to look the Prince de Ligne up on the Web. Very interesting when you look at the costumes, because you can see they mainly come from 3 different

[lace] Reduced Prickings

2004-01-22 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi, Jean and other Arachnes Just wanted to add that if you do decide to reduce the prickings, it would be a kindness to include on each pattern a straight line that was, say 5 cm (2 inches) long when the pattern was full size. That will give the photocopy-enlargement-challenged some way to

Re: [lace] miracourt lace?

2004-01-26 Thread Adele Shaak
Does anyone know anything about this kind of lace? I have a few pieces, but know little about it. Any knowledge is appreciated! Try http://lace.lacefairy.com/International/Mirecourt.html Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing

[lace] Lacis

2004-01-29 Thread Adele Shaak
The various names I've seen are: lacis, filet lacis, guipure d'art. I have the impression that the words filet refers to a square mesh (since it is also used to describe the form of crochet which imitates true filet lacis. I agree that you will see filet and lacis referring to the same thing -

Re: [lace] photography

2004-01-30 Thread Adele Shaak
I agree. I have been looking at digital cameras was afraid of just what was discussed here. When I was looking to buy a digital camera, I went to some of the digital camera review pages. Examples are: http://www.dpreview.com , http://www.pcphotoreview.com and http://www.megapixel.net If you go

Re: [lace] photography

2004-01-31 Thread Adele Shaak
I was attempting to photograph some lace with my new digital camera specifically bought for lace photography- can get within 1.3 inch. My problem was that my shadow keeps marring the picture as I bend over the lace. How do others deal with this? The great thing about digitals is that you can

Re: [lace] Kiki Smith

2004-01-31 Thread Adele Shaak
deluge the museum with irate e-mails demanding to know whether no doilies were hurt in making this art? Yes, definitely. If they're linen, let's also include a diatribe about how many flax plants were killed to make the fibre ;-) The artwork I've seen that destroys lace seems to rid the world of

Re: [lace] communism good for lace

2004-01-31 Thread Adele Shaak
Apart from learning to make lace she had to go to an art school and a textile school ( higher education). I don't know why the countries behind the Iron Curtain put such an emphasis on art and craft skills, but there is no denying they did. I was a museum docent during an international tapestry

[lace] List Behaviour

2004-02-04 Thread Adele Shaak
Clay wrote: I don't know if the weather is the culprit or not. But I do know that in the last month, several people have gotten fed up with the list because of personal attacks, name-calling, and other not nice behavior. I think it's the weather. Maybe even lack of sunlight. I was recently

Re: [lace] Twined Gimp

2004-02-08 Thread Adele Shaak
I've uploaded a scan of a corner of my Seashore mat with the twined gimp Thanks, Noelene. One picture *is* worth a thousand words - although I've done twined gimp before in Russian tape lace, I wasn't able to envision how it would work in Torchon until I saw the photo. Adele North Vancouver, BC

Re: [lace] strange thing on ebay

2004-02-12 Thread Adele Shaak
Here's a weird thing: anyone know what this is? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3703562790category=2219 I haven't heard anyone else comment on this - so I'd say, No, no one has any idea what it is. I'm pretty sure its not for tatting, because something that wide, even if

Re: [lace] New book

2004-02-28 Thread Adele Shaak
I have just checked the Amazon site here in UK and the New book due out on April 29th-30th Lace from the VA museum by Clare Browne ISBN 1-85177-418-1 Published price £30 is on Amazon at £21. This book seems to be published in North America by Harry N. Abrams, as I have found it on the

Re: [lace] Supplier of Egyptian Cotton, Canada

2004-03-08 Thread Adele Shaak
Barbara wrote: I don't keep a note of US suppliers and now I need one! Can anyone tell me where someone living in Vancouver can obtain Egyptian Cotton, preferably the smaller threads 180/2, 160/2. This is for making ropes for model ship-building! Hi Barbara: He can try Kathy at RainCity Lace

Re: [lace] Free stuff for Stitchers

2004-03-22 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Janice: Check when it was published and if it's been updated. I rather think this book is about 6 years old, which might explain the absence of the Lacefairy. (I could be wrong, of course - this could be a totally different book, but it sounds like one I reviewed for my embroiderer's guild

[lace] Colour in Lace

2004-03-25 Thread Adele Shaak
it's always the green thread that falls apart. I have found this with wool, too: if you work with the Appleton crewel wool (for embroidery), the sea-greens are much thinner and more prone to breakage than any other colour. The greens that are not sea-green are just as strong as the other

[lace] Spring Lace Day - Richmond Area Lacemakers

2004-03-28 Thread Adele Shaak
Just a note to let everyone in the Pacific Northwest / BC Lower Mainland and Vancouver Island areas know that we're having a lace day on Sunday, April 18th. For full information and a map, please email me privately. Thanks. Adele [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) -

Re: [lace] Thread opinions wanted

2004-04-06 Thread Adele Shaak
Robin wrote: I've never heard any forbidding edict against embroidery floss. Just a number of people who pointed out how hard it is to get BL-length single plies out of that 6-ply skein. and Joy wrote: I just pulled one of the threads, and the entire skein coiled up on it, then the coil

Re: [lace] Rare LACEMAKER'S OIL LAMP

2004-04-09 Thread Adele Shaak
Alice Howell wrote: There is a real lacemaker's globe on the postcard on this auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2237591905 Alice, I *love* this picture! Not only seeing a lacemakers lamp setup as it might have been used (though her candle is burnt way too low to be

Re: [lace] old French bobbins on ebay...

2004-04-11 Thread Adele Shaak
Clay Blackwell wrote: But there is a listing on ebay now which bobbin collectors should see... 24 of those old onion bulbed bobbins in two different woods.. Would any of our French-speaking members care to comment on the sellers' description: 24 bobbines en bois doliviers qui servaient

Re: [lace] Bobbin parking and yet more questions

2004-04-22 Thread Adele Shaak
Also, what bad things happen when your bobbins are too small or too large for the thread size? If too small, you are continually running out of thread because you can't put very many inches of a thick thread on, say, a Honiton or other bobbin that has a small and shallow area for thread. Also,

Re: [lace] Preferred Pillow Shapes?

2004-04-22 Thread Adele Shaak
I am looking at starting to order my equipment and was wondering what people prefered for a pillow shape and which is considered most versatile. Hi Janet: Cookie: Advantages: can make lace in any direction - useful for square edgings, doilies, etc. as well as straight edgings. Will usefully

Re: [lace] Lace magazine - cover has inspired me to Honiton

2004-05-09 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Viv: I haven't seen the Lace Guild magazine yet, but as to your other questions: I'd like your ideas on the question Do I need the right equipment? I know that if I take to this particular style of lace I would, but until I know I wouldn't want to buy another pillow and a set of new bobbins.

[lace] V A Lace book - postage

2004-05-09 Thread Adele Shaak
Just a reminder to those who want the new VA lace book by Clare Brown but don't want to pay the mail charges from England: Way back in February when we talked about this book, I mentioned that it was being simultaneously published in the US by Harry Abrams. In fact, I just bought it from

Re: [lace] Lace mixed with other media

2004-05-23 Thread Adele Shaak
The question is how does shellac effect the textile over a period of time? Each basket is preserved (to some degree) by a coating of shellac. Hi Dianna: I can't quite tell from your posting if you are coating the tatting with shellac, or if you are coating only the baskets with shellac and

Re: [lace] Wedding Bobbins

2004-05-29 Thread Adele Shaak
Just on this one point - I've noticed that many historians who specialise in Modern History will count the English Medieval period as ending at the accession of James I; that is, at the end of the Tudor dynasty. My Oxford reference dictionaries define the medieval period as being from the 5th to

Re: [lace] survey UFO

2004-07-01 Thread Adele Shaak
( I remember a competition at IOLI one year for the oldest UFO that one intended to finish. The winner was 23 years. H... that's the age of my oldest UFO - a Honiton piece that I started in 1981 after I got Elsie Luxton's book. I was quite new to lace at the time and needed far more

Re: [lace] wire lace brooch

2004-07-18 Thread Adele Shaak
Laura: I haven't seen Diana's pattern, but I would think that 10 pair 32 gauge 5 feet divided would mean 10 pairs of bobbins, each pair wound with a total of 5 feet of 32 gauge wire. I would interpret the divided to mean that some of the 5 feet of wire is on one bobbin, some on the other

Re: [lace] political statements

2004-07-26 Thread Adele Shaak
The lace list is hardly the place to express one's political opinions.. I think we decided that anyone who had a complaint about the list should address it **privately** to Avital, who would deal with it. Adele North Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL

Re: [lace] Re: Galerie Vlasta

2004-07-28 Thread Adele Shaak
she uses clear polyurethane, same as for furniture. I kid you not... snip Historians and conservationists - weep g A Czech lacemaker who had immigrated to Canada and was showing her stuff at our (now-defunct) Craft Museum used any old hard plastic (like empty Tic-Tac boxes) which she ***melted

Re: [lace] ? Ariane thread substitute

2004-08-05 Thread Adele Shaak
I love Michel Jourde's patterns from Lace Express and he favours Ariane thread. Could someone please suggest a possible alternate thread? Ariane is a long-staple Egyptian cotton thread, like Aurifil's Mako cotton. You could use that, or you could also use a lot of other cotton threads. Are

Re: [lace] Haven't a clue!

2004-08-22 Thread Adele Shaak
I agree with Avital - it appears to be some sort of teneriffe form. But I'm mystified about what that metal thing is on the handle. I'm wondering if it isn't some method of securing the little spool to a larger stand. You would press the tangs together, insert the spool onto some sort of rod,

Re: [lace] cross-stitch fabric

2004-08-23 Thread Adele Shaak
I'm looking for cheap linen fabric to put lace edgings on. What's the difference between cross-stitch fabric and normal fabric, and would it make any sense to put lace edgings on it? Cross stitch fabric is woven to have exactly the advertised number of threads per inch, with the same number of

Re: [lace] cross-stitch fabric

2004-08-23 Thread Adele Shaak
That said, I'd try to get better fabric if I had any idea how to tell which one that is. It seems like just trying to buy more expensive fabric instead isn't the best idea, so for now I'll just get some cheap stuff to practice with, and maybe figure out the quality later. g Square inch for

Re: [lace] pattern copyright and adaptations

2004-08-23 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Weronika - you raised a couple of interesting questions. Copyright law recognizes that there is a process by which a copyright image or creation becomes changed, changed again, and further changed, and eventually is no longer the original image or creation at all. Unfortunately there is no

Re: [lace] What is Stumpwork?

2004-09-02 Thread Adele Shaak
Now I am being told that this is not right I am doing something that was not done during the period that Stumpwork was made in England. I can see someone saying this if you were entering a Re-create the 1650s competition, but there has been such a lot of modern stumpwork done that I think you

Re: [lace] pronounciation of lace names

2004-09-03 Thread Adele Shaak
Does one approach this issue as though everyone in the audience is sophisticated enough to know the pronunciation rules of every language or does one pronounce things the way they would be pronounced in the language that you are speaking in? Hi Devon: My 2 cents: This problem makes you tread

Re: [lace] books and articles wanted

2005-04-17 Thread Adele Shaak
Out of curiosity, is the 1923 date a fixed in stone (perhaps for 5 or 10 years?) or an 82 years before now date that has been decided on as a suitable period for the cut off point? In that case, does it move on a year each year, ie next year 1924 books can be used? No, the 1923 is fixed in

[lace] Re: Another ebay lace bobbin

2005-05-23 Thread Adele Shaak
Extremely rare is right :) And, I always thought that a Stanhope was some kind of a horse-pulled vehicle, but it seems to mean a spangle here? Hi Tamara and other kindly spiders: A Stanhope as used here is a little bitty microscopic viewer that shows a picture of some kind - often a public

[lace] Re: A visual treat on eBay...

2005-07-01 Thread Adele Shaak
Hello spiders: Tamara wrote: Most of the lace made then - whether needle or bobbin - was made either for the Church, which makes me wonder if this piece might be a communion cup cover. I know they had such covers in lace, but I have no idea what size it ought to be. Adele in cool and

[lace] Cloth-stitch laces and tones

2005-07-10 Thread Adele Shaak
Hello, spiders: About the cloth-stitch laces: I'm referring to the older (eg, 17th-century) laces of Antwerp and similar; the ones that gave rise to what we now call Valenciennes, Flanders, and Binche. I would like to learn more about these laces, and am wondering if there are any resources

[lace] Waxing thread for bobbin lace

2005-07-28 Thread Adele Shaak
One thing I haven't seen raised in this thread - I seem to recall that beeswax is acidic. I don't know how acidic, and I don't know if or how beeswax would affect linen thread over time, but it is something to think about. If somebody has a piece that was made, say, at least 5-10 years ago,

[lace] fun at home!!!

2005-07-31 Thread Adele Shaak
What lace projects are you working on? Hi Irene and other gentle Spiders: I'm ploughing ahead with my second 5-metre piece - the OIDFA pattern Sneeuwpoppen. This time I'm keeping track of how much I do each week, because I want to finish it by September (started May 17th). I find I keep

Subject: [lace] Linen (flax) thread

2005-10-02 Thread Adele Shaak
I've heard a number of stories about why we don't have fine flax, and after hearing them all, this is my 2 cents' worth: 1. A few years ago in the OIDFA bulletin (I think) there was an article on fine linen thread from someone whose family has been in the linen-thread production business for

[lace] Re: ironing things

2005-10-10 Thread Adele Shaak
Their irons were even more primitive - they didn't have a shell with hinged door for the insert - the whole thing was heated Hey, Tamara - we have a bunch of your primitive irons at work - and we use them every day. If we need to iron something (usually paper, sometimes leather or cloth) they

[lace] Passing In the Manner of a Horse

2005-12-17 Thread Adele Shaak
You use passée à cheval when 4 threads from leaves cross the cloth stitch trail : 2 go in the plait and 2 become workers (? good term in english?). Or the opposite plait to leaves. In Passée à cheval you change the worker. Look the black arrows on the diagram. Hi Donna: Think of somebody

[lace] Pita Lace

2005-12-18 Thread Adele Shaak
Last night a fellow lacemaker was showing me a new addtion to her lace collection. The little doily was labelled pita lace. It was a most beautiful airy little thing, like a delicate spider web. Neither of us has ever heard of pita lace before, it really looked like a super-fine knitting.

[lace] Re: Angle of Work

2006-01-18 Thread Adele Shaak
I've virtually always ended up with the main angle of work top right to bottom left, whichever side the footside was on [...] Has anyone noticed this, or is it just me being awkward? Can it make a difference to tensioning, or anything else that might matter? My first 5-metre piece was

[lace] Re: [lace[ Update on PNWLC == new classes

2006-02-15 Thread Adele Shaak
There have been some class changes in the Pacific North West Lace Conference schedule. A couple teachers had to cancel, ... Hi Alice - I never made it onto the PNWLC mailing list so I have been relying on the website for information. When I look on the website at Class Details - am I right

[lace] Re: What is everybody up to?

2006-05-14 Thread Adele Shaak
Like Alice, I'm also in preparation for the PNWC lace conference in June. I'll be taking the Tonder class, and I've got a big pile of bobbins to wind. I also have to find a lace pillow to use, and since they're all already in use my choice is to finish an old project or make a new pillow.

[lace] Oldest UFO

2006-05-20 Thread Adele Shaak
One is about seven years old. snip It must be the oldest one I still have on a pillow. This got me thinking - who has the oldest UFO still on a pillow - and *still*, after all these years, intends to finish it some day? I have a piece of Honiton that dates from 1981. Still on the pillow - I

[lace] French help needed

2006-07-01 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi everybody: I'm reading the book Dentelles Normandes: La Blonde de Caen and I keep running into one problem. Like the English, the French historically used the same word, livre to refer to a pound in weight and to refer to a unit of currency (which I think is the same as what is now called the

[lace] embroidery tool and sewing machines

2006-07-02 Thread Adele Shaak
Tamara wrote: the early instruction booklets that came with machines. What's early? And, does anyone know how well those early combination machines sold? As opposed to the two -- independent (sewing and embroidery) -- ones? I think the book referred to was put out by the Singer sewing

[lace] Whitework Needle Sampler

2006-08-29 Thread Adele Shaak
Hi Dianne: I wonder if you are thinking about the book Danish Pulled Thread Embroidery (you can see a picture of the cover at http://store.doverpublications.com/0486234746.html ) which is a Dover reprint book that is still available. The book gave you the patterns to work the squares in a

[lace] Re: (lace) Tension for a Wool Bolster

2006-09-03 Thread Adele Shaak
If you have no one to help create tension as you wind the felted material around the core, open a window (sash type), and close it on one end of the material. Then begin winding, pulling hard against the end caught in the window. I have done two bolsters this way: they are nice and firm.

[lace] Portland, Oregon area (off-topic)

2006-09-03 Thread Adele Shaak
Help! Is there anyone on the list who knows the SW Portland area, and can suggest any inexpensive place to stay within easy driving distance of the Garden Home Recreation Center (7425 SW Oleson Road)? I am considering taking a course there at the end of the month (not lace-related) but it

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