Its a long shot, but I will look in my local college library.
Why I am doing this is that I do not have it on my files! If anyone does
find it, please let me know.
Actually a stool would be very easy to make.
I do have a sketch that was published by a fellow called Richard Barnes, way
back ( I
The stool is like a simple bar stool without the foot rest joining pieces.
The four legs would have to be set in deep into the seat, therefore the seat
would need to be quite thick.
There are four holes bored into the seat around the circumference which
would take part hollow wooden flask holders
I keep jumping in offering opinions on Continental Bobbins for which I am
clearly not an expert. I will argue with peoples opinions on English
bobbins, but I am on shaky grounds in this area.
The bobbin could well be old and I think that the seller might have got
their date from an illustration
Yes that is what the groove is for.
I use dental floss and not wire for Danish bobbins.
you can knot it quite tight and easily with floss whereas with wire I found
it difficult
Brian and Jean from Cooranbong, Australia.
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It went mad towards the end.
I was in there Pounds 50 but not more than that for what was really a poor
specimen.
However someone now owns a hanging bobbin for a very reasonable price
really! and I am happy for them
If it was someone on our list I would love to see more detailed scans of it
Your lateral thinking is quite original and worthy of serious consideration
until it is disproven. Like many things in lace history we are not really
sure about the truth of the matter.
At one time I had a pretty full paper on the history of pins but goodness
knows where it is now!
Suffice to
I have had no internet connection for a week.
I think I have the gist of what you are talking about regarding the rings
They are called captured rings. They are turned but the bobbin maker whilst
on the lathe. It requires that the maker turns the top of the ring then
undercuts it, so that it
Yes indeed, that is the story. It is used to press down one part of the lace
so as to raise and emphasise another part pf the design.
Some time ago I made a few sets of needle lace tools that include an afficot,
lifters, ringsticks etc. I thought I would buy my Mercedes on the proceeds,
but
I have a low end digital camera that does all I want it to do BUT, IMHO the
answer is in the software manipulation of the images.
It is just amazing what you can do with a good graphic package, even free
ones ( The Gimp)
Sure they do take a farley steep learning curve, but then on the results
We have to access the symbol character set to get the pound sign. I usually
can not be bothered and write Pounds Sterling instead! I have to write $Aud
or $ US so the Sterling thing is not really much different.
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E mail photos are usually very low pixel rate (72 pixels per inch) they will
not print out too well.
The theory is that pixels over 200 per inch are a waste of time for a lot of
printers even though they talk about 720 per inch as an ability to print at.
There are technical arguments that I do
I have searched the site yesterday and today and cant find the catalogue. I
can find the auction date but no other information about it.
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This may be old news to many of you Australians.
Currently I am planning to make a film of The Rocks (just an amateur film,
for my own interest) and instead of focussing on grand surviving buildings
and important men of the past, I want to tell the story of ordinary people
and their everyday
Look! I have found something that I wrote about these lamps, complete
with
illustration.
Circumstance beyond my control has meant that I have let my web page
almost
die, but I must make a new one. [promises, promises]
http://lace.lacefairy.com/Gallery/LaceLamps.html
Brian and Jean from
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My emails to you keep bouncing back!!
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I will be unbsubscribing for a week. I will miss the excitement of the
Springett auction. I will be happy to get personal emails during this week
especially Springett news.
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Just a note to say I am back home and am planning a new web page.
All I know is about lace bobbins, what would be useful to have on such a
page?
A happy New Year. Did you see the Ausssie fireworks from Sydney?
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Gee, you lot are hard task masters!
I suppose I asked for it.
Today I have re written the Lace makers lamp article with some quite nice
illustration. You know I get worked up about this subject!!
Although I have complained bitterly to those who have suggested topics as
there is a lot of work
I have today put al my continental bobbin pictures in a separate file. I
have also discovered that at one time I started to write about them. I have
not had time to read what I have written.
Still problem solving with my web site.
Brian and Jean from Cooranbong Australia
Brian and Jean from
I have a bit of time that I did not expect today (wife gone soft on me!!)
So I am doing more preparation for the Continental bobbins page.
I have headings for French Bobbins, Flemish Bobbins, Belgium and Dutch
Bobbins. As I am looking mainly at traditional or antique tools, I think
they
Theo, are you out there? or can someone put me in touch with him please?
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pitsipulgad
Can anyone translate this word for me please?
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A few folks have told me that there is a future date on my web page. Not
true. I have written it in the British/Australian style, not the American
style. i.e. day/month/year.
We may have taken on a lot of American spelling and indeed some American
meanings too, but we have not changed our
I really am swimming in treacle in geographical sea
I have an article on Slavic bobbins with some pictures. I also have a file
on Polish bobbins. The pictures of the bobbins are the same.
If I use the term Slavic to discuss a genre of bobbins, what countries
would be included in that heading.
Sorry I forgot to remind you of the web page url. Here it is.
http://home.exetel.com.au/brido/
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see the series of
bobbins I have. Well you will in due course!
Brian and Jean from Cooranbong Australia
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Brian
I have some extremely poor (like almost unreadable) of a bobbin catalogue
that has a vast amount of continental bobbins pictured in it.
They are catalogued in the following way (just an example)
NL 3. Old Holland, then a picture ( drawing I think ) of the bobbin.
on that same page they 4 types (
Floren was good enough to do sometranslating for me some years ago.
If you are out there can you contact me please?
If not can anyone put me in touch with her please?
Many thanks
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I have put up a couple more pages.
Portuguese and Brazil; Spanish; French; and a small page about the oldest
bobbin illustration.
Your help will be welcome
http://home.exetel.com.au/brido/
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I think I have got the answer.
It is a bone pen holder. (Like a nib holder on the bottom part into which
you placed the nib)
What do you think?
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I find this bobbinrather intriguing.
It seems quite possible that this was a bobbin but it is broken- sort of
half way down- the shaft.
It has the Hallmarks of coming from the E P Rose factory.
One would really need to see it to make up your mind if it was once a bobbin
or just as likely,
Clay has a good case for an awl. I have looked at it again and if it were a
handle then the handle part would be parallel, but these are tapered, which
probably be suitable for an awl.
I have just stopped writing this email to look through my collection of
resource books and I cant find
Jean, What an excellent observation!
We really need to see it to see just where it is broken.
Never mind.
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I can tell you how either on the list (if a number of members want to know)
Or privately.
If say a half a dozen want to know how, then I would ask the moderator to
allow me to tell you via the list.
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1. The shuttle is made up of a POST and two SHELLS.
2. The post is the part that keeps the two shells apart and indeed
together also.
3. The post has a height, this is the distance that the two shells are kept
apart where the post connects to the shells.
4.The two shells are the Boat
I would recommend that you copy a shuttle that you already have for your
first try.
1. Take a piece of wood of the length, height and width of the desired
finished shuttle.
2. Mark with pencil the desired shape on each aspect of the shuttle.
3. Decide the Length of the shuttles post. [
For Jig saw rea SCROLL SAW sorry.
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Part two told you how to carve from the solid wood. Of course we are going
to use solid wood in this method but we will cut all the parts separately
and then glue them together. You will ideally need a band saw or scroll saw
for this method
1. Select piece of wood that is big enough to cut
Making Tatting Shuttles
http://www.davidreedsmith.com/Shuttles/Readabou.htm
David Reed Smith taught me how to make tatting shuttles over the net!
I use his basic method BUT in NO WAY am I so technical as he is.
I use the same techniques thinning down veneer but I use a small sand ing
drum
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http://home.exetel.com.au/brido/index.htm
I have updated my Spanish bobbins page with two multi bobbin pictures that
I would appreciate, if those knowledgeable, would email me with their
names/descriptions/region etc
As you will know the Continental bobbin
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I need a bit of text to accompany the set of needle lace tools that I will
be putting on web page; but I really do not have a clue about needle
lace!!
Would you care to help me please?
What is needlelace?
How does it differ (if at all) from needlepoint lace?
How are the tools used?
I
I have just discovered that I do not have a picture of a real needle lace
needle (as opposed to a doll needle etc.)
Can anyone send me a scan/picture of one please?
Many thanks
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OK, thank you for the replies that I have had regarding the use of the
tools. Now I am thinking that I should have a picture of the needlelace
that the tools and their users produce.
Any volunteers to send me a scan/ picture of a piece of needle lace?
BTW the general consensus is that there
I would just like to thank you all for your contributions.
I expect that I will get the page up over the weekend sometime.
It has almost turned into a needlelace page instead of a tools page, but
I am very happy about that.
Thank you
Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia
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Quite a long time ago, someone on the list was kind enough to translate the
issue of the newsletter that announced their new logo.
I apologise to the person because I have forgotten who it is and I would
like to acknowledge them on the German Bobbin Page of my web site ( when it
gets up
Yes it is a stiletto. Looks a bit like bone but could possibly be poor
quality/aged ivory.
Some reference books call it an awl.
One book seemed to call steel pointed ones stiletto and bone ones awls???
It is possible that they go under both names.
I will go for stiletto.
Jean and Brian
Clay seemed to indicate some degree of apology for her posting.
I think that is totally inappropriate when we are all working on problem
solving together.
We learn from each other, and I for one would not be without the collective
wisdom of this list.
Once we become afraid to air our
What about tooth picks? :) :)
Sure it is a bit of a joke, but I seem to remember that bone toothpicks were
placed on the table in India, perhaps even China?
Who knows?
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What a great imagination. I can not find any reference to them in my
extensive bobbin book library.
The glass object on the left looks like a knife rest, what the other two are
I have no idea?
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A few years ago I coordinated some very interesting identification of
materials used for bobbins and indeed other things too. I recall borrowing
that book for reference material. Now, I am not saying that the reference
the Mullers is not there, particularly as I was not looking for such an
Here is a web page that looks vaguely interesting. Nothing to do with lace
though!
FineArtStore.com - Departments
http://fineartstore.com/cgistore/store.cgi?page=/new/product.htmlsetup=1ida=10342idp=0his=0cart_id=137023.3936
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eBay.ca: ANTIQUE NAMED LACE BOBBIN, SUSAN 19TH CENTURY (item 8243409794 end
time 19-Dec-05 15:22:46 EST)
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I have to say that I have not seen that kind of decoration on a
I see Jean thinks they have been painted recently. That was my first
thought but did not jump in before I researched the decoration with the
list.
Before I get your responses now, I would have thought that the collections I
have seen would have had such an example.
So, is there more out
He has arrived here in Ausutralia and is making his way to you.
Merry Christmas / happy Holidays.
It was a huge 48 here yesterday. 33 today!
Water temperature 24. I will be in the surf before luch.
BTW all temperature in Celcius.
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Lace folks collect all sorts of different things, however has anyone
collected (or are collecting) actual beads that Christine mentions in her
book Spangles and Superstitions ?
I have been looking out for them for some time and have found it a rather
difficult collection to build up.
PS. I
My wife uses a similar arrangement for her small patchwork projects but she
uses a Post Office posting tube, made of cardboard. The one she uses is
about 18 inches long and about 2 inches in diameter.
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Thanks for your personal replies. These are what I am looking for (back pages
of the book)
I am looking for an examples of:
A Marvered bead
A Nut
A rope
A Melon
A crumb
A camel
And a decent wound spiral ( I have one but it is not a good picture.)
Any other interesting beads will be
I now have a Nut (thanks)
and a reasonable Melon bead (thank you)
Keep them coming if the project interest you.
Brian and Jean
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I just love the accumulated knowledge and joint research the lace list
brings to a subject. Just one small reference I came across and we can, if
we wanted, start a Wiki entry on it. Most interesting.
Thank you everyone.
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I had better say stop to your kind donations of pictures for this article.
I must say that I did it because I like the eye candy of spangles and beads,
but we have to draw the line somewhere.
You are too kind.
Many thanks.
No promises, but you might be able to see it in the bobbin museum.
For some time now I have looking at just when East midland Bobbins started
to be spangled.
I clearly know why Honiton bobbins were not spangled because they have to
thread the bobbin through whatever from time to time and a spangle would
be a darned nuisance to say the least. (It must be
It may surprise many of you to know that my collection of bobbins is very
junky! I got them because they had degraded pewter, sealing wax heads, they
were bent, beaten up or anything that would help me get inside bobbins and
their makers.
Today I poured them out on to the table to just see
Thank you for your contributions. Most interesting. Some folks have asked me
the size:
They are 8 cm long and 5mm at the largest part (just below the neck)
There is no doubt in my mind that they are old, so travelling bobbins are
not really an option (I stand to be corrected of course)
I
When I was studying for a few days at the Luton Museum, the then curator
brought me a piece of human hair lace to see. It was a veil to a hat. I
never thought to photograph it, but it remains a fortunate memory of mine.
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I have made quite a few tapestry bobbins, and whilst not a lace maker I
would find it hard to imagine them being used on a pillow. They are about 5
inches long and the tail diameter would be almost 1/2 an inch. Certainly
the long neck would hold a lot of lace making thread. Possibly a yak
I just stopped at a rather poor earring stand! and felt that one of you
guys (In Australia Guys is for both sexes) would know all about it. Anyway
I went to my books as sewing tools are quite a favorite of mine after lace
bobbins. So I went to my reference books.
I have discovered two
I have been off line for about 5 days as my email address had been hijacked
and spam had been sent out under my name.
My provider told me of this and I had to run my virus scanner in deep mode
and make my password more secure. This was the key to it as I had a town
name as a password and was
Is there anyone on the list who might have the knowledge (or know someone who
has the knowledge) to identify the types (i.e. frigate, man of war, corvette
etc) of about 6 ships that I have depicted on my East Devon (Honiton) bobbins.
The dates are early to mid 1800s. I have been investigating
Not very old history but i came across this when researching the Batavia
bobbins. it is a record of an immigrant to Australia.
Might be of use to some historian somewhere some time!!
LYMBERY, Alfred Lydia
b. 1 January 1882 d. 28 November 1961
b. 25 December 1885 d. 29 March 1967
Welcome
I have a embryonic web page that I will upload them to.
Give me a few days and I will tell the lace forum.
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Well this link works for me. if it does not work please let me know :)
http://home.exetel.com.au/brido/Lace%20Bobbins/Ships%20ID/ID%20page.htm
Thanks.
Brian and Jean
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A few years ago I was corresponding with a group of lace makers that
volunteered to work with the bobbin collection at the Luton museum. I have
at last done something with my photos and would like to be in touch again.
Can you drop me a note please?
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A few years ago I was in contact with someone who did a bit of research for
me at the Met. I would like to be in touch with her again if she could drop
me a note. (relax.. I am not asking for more research!!)
Many thanks
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Can you drop me a note please?
Many thanks
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Seeing Noelenes post about a lace maker convict made me realize that I do
not have a picture of the /a (are there more than one?) Botany Bay bobbin.
Can anyone help with a picture please?
Thanks
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I have recently been in contact with an academic, author and researcher on
lace (generic use of the word).
I took the opportunity to raise the issue of bobbins used for gold/metallic
lace in antiquity. The literature on English bobbins along with
illustrations various writers on Antique
Did anyone on the list purchase that remarkable set of three bobbins that
had the text of the message inscribed on three separate bobbins?
This is the text:
Now dead and my my grave
and all my bones are rottong
and Christ is my salvation
As is my delight to present historical bobbins in an
I just need to say that my last two posts were meant for my partner in
bobbin mysteries! I did not mean to send them to the list
BUT, why not ask you these questions? Your replies will be most welcome!
I actually sent her another request earlier for a picture of a Grand mother
The reason I was asking my friend those questions is that I am working on a
Dictionary of Antique Lace Bobbins and Equipment. I have been at it for 5
or 6 years at least. ( A real UFO that I would love to complete) I have
written the draft text and I am now trying to illustrate it. I am up
Today I was so excited to get a postcard with superb photos of Antique
Downton bobbins. One showed clearly that the decorators of East Devon
bobbins (Honiton) used the same decorator. To me, that is exciting!
Please continue with your generous donations of pictures of antique bobbins.
I
Sorry I cant tell you what is on my pillow(Just my head I think!) but I will
keep you up to date on what I (we as I have a few collaborators) are doing.
We have looked at the images that certain museums have on the web which they
have labeled Bobbins even lace bobbins. They have been
Do any of you or your friends actually have an Ipswich bobbin? They seem to
be like hens teeth!
If you do have such a bobbin I will write you such a sweet and appealing
letter for a picture. :) Just a happy snap or two will do.
If you want to know more about Ipswich lace then this is the
Hi Karen,
Would you be kind enough to drop me an email please? I have some Ipswich
bobbin questions you may be able to help me with.
I hope you do.
Thank you
Brian
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I cant find anything like it in the books!.
I can guess:
1: A thread waxer. The wax would be in the hole and the thread passed
through the slot! (?)
2: Ornamental ends for something! Say knitting needles?
Frankly I have no idea!
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Yes, David does tell this story. I actually have it on a an old tape! One
day I will transfer it to CD. It is a home recording and not very clear,
but you can hear it, and that is the main point. I suspect that Australia
was the source but I can not remember the kind person that gave me a
Luton Museum is quite my favourite, whilst Bedford museum has an excellent
layout it always seems less personal than Luton.
I hoped you managed to find the drawers that have a small but amazing
collection of bobbins. Their reserve bobbin collection is very extensive.
The Friends of Luton
The one warning that I would make is regarding bobbins that have pewter in
them. They must not be kept in any place where they might get very cold.
If they do this will accelerate the process of pewter degradation.
For other bobbins, keep out of direct sunlight.
Avoid damp
Even temperature
the story that says that Napoleons army uniforms had pewter
buttons and when the went to Russia in the freezing conditions there, the
buttons disintegrated.
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I really have mixed feelings about using valuable old bobbins.
There are some that are so valuable, so rare, so beautiful that it would
[IMHO] be a sin to use them. But I get great pleasure from using tools that
were once owned and used by my father, as I scrape away I think, my Dad
used
was never very good at the best of times! :)
I will have to think who to ask abut this.
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I have found a copy of my original article about pewter and degradation. I
find that it lacks the detail of Jacqui's research. Great stuff... thank
you.
I do remember doing quite a lot of research and and members of Arachne
contributed greatly to the discussion. I think I just summarized
Sorry Elizabeth, I sent this email direct to you as opposed to the 'list.
One of my bobbin resource people (you know I am not a lace maker and have to
rely on others for practical advice) Showed me that she certainly did not
handle the leopard bobbins in any way that would involve her touching
Very fine (1000) wet and dry would work ok. Take it easy. Also I use a
very fine pumice powder mixed with a vegetable oil for my tatting shuttles.
The problem I see with wet and dry is that the paper is quite stiff and
would only touch the bobbins in certain places. Try tearing a small
on eBay at the moment who is 'tampering' with old
bobbins i.e. replacing tinsel, wire, beads, spangles - totally out of
order (IMO) !!! Have you noticed 'him'.
Diana
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Firstly for all the arthritis suffers out there I have every sympathy, it is
tough and painful.
What many sufferers in the past experienced was periods of relief (this is
actually part of the disease process) So, when one enters a period of
relief you ask yourself what brought this on? And
I am sorry that i have been away and not had access to my email.
Just a bit off topic... my wife fell and fractured her skull (temporal and
mastoid) whilst we were away; 5 days in high depoendency, multi scans,
mental tests etc etc. Very scary; but she is making a slow but positive
recovery.
Hi, I am Brian Lemin... a mad keen bobbin researcher. I have been away from
you good folk for a while but good things have been happening. Most of all
my oncologist has discharged me as a 10 years survivor of Prostate cancer
(radiation and minor surgery was my treatment) I also have lost
Many thanks for a small harvest of Maritime bobbins. :) Most helpful.
I wondered if perhaps one of you might raise my Maritime request on Chat.
( do people only subscribe to chat like I have only subscribed to lace?)
The next group I would love to see more of are the Virtues They are
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