Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

2008-01-21 Thread ik
Thank you for the information :) Ido On Jan 20, 2008 10:12 PM, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En/na ik ha escrit: For someone that does not know arm cpus, what are oabi and eabi ? oabi (I don't think that's the proper definition, anyway o stands for old) is the previous arm binary

[lazarus] Exception for codehelp

2008-01-21 Thread Damien Gerard
I have got this when using Lazarus : TApplication.HandleException In Stream (line 2955 pos 63): Unmatching element end tag (expected /seealso) Stack trace: $082CEDA8 TXMLREADER__RAISEEXC, line 277 of laz_xmlread.pas $082D117C CREATENAMEELEMENT, line 1105 of laz_xmlread.pas

Re: [lazarus] Exception for codehelp

2008-01-21 Thread Vincent Snijders
Damien Gerard schreef: I have got this when using Lazarus : TApplication.HandleException In Stream (line 2955 pos 63): Unmatching element end tag (expected /seealso) Stack trace: On what identifier was the cursor? Vincent _

Re: [lazarus] Exception for codehelp

2008-01-21 Thread Vincent Snijders
Damien Gerard schreef: On Jan 21, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Vincent Snijders wrote: Damien Gerard schreef: I have got this when using Lazarus : TApplication.HandleException In Stream (line 2955 pos 63): Unmatching element end tag (expected /seealso) This is in forms.xml. I will fix this. Vincent

Re: [lazarus] Exception for codehelp

2008-01-21 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:27:27 +0100 Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Vincent Snijders wrote: Damien Gerard schreef: I have got this when using Lazarus : TApplication.HandleException In Stream (line 2955 pos 63): Unmatching element end tag (expected

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Lord Satan
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:39:54 +0100 Florian Klaempfl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lord Satan schrieb: On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:33:53 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still think having a custom Object Pascal written toolkit for Lazarus is the way to go. The LCL would have

Re: [lazarus] Exception for codehelp

2008-01-21 Thread Vincent Snijders
Mattias Gaertner schreef: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:27:27 +0100 Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Vincent Snijders wrote: Damien Gerard schreef: I have got this when using Lazarus : TApplication.HandleException In Stream (line 2955 pos 63): Unmatching

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/01/2008, Lord Satan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the point. fpGUI may be a nice idea but I got a little tired about reading how great it is over and over again (because it is really, really ugly, not the native gui for the different supported plattforms and native gui support has

Re: [lazarus] Exception for codehelp

2008-01-21 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mattias Gaertner schreef: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:27:27 +0100 Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Vincent Snijders wrote: Damien Gerard schreef: I have got this when using Lazarus :

Re: [lazarus] Exception for codehelp

2008-01-21 Thread Vincent Snijders
Mattias Gärtner schreef: e a :) So, someone is still editing the xml code directly instead of using lazde. What is wrong with lazde? At least: http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=10274 Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Lord Satan
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:45:16 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No offence taken. fpGUI is a young project and making it look native is on the todo list. It simply hasn't been a priority yet (I have lots of other things to do first). As for looking native... everybody keeps

Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-21 Thread Giuliano Colla
Marco van de Voort ha scritto: On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 03:00:41AM -0200, Fl?vio Etrusco wrote: On Jan 17, 2008 7:15 PM, Marco van de Voort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:40:11PM +0100, Giuliano Colla wrote: I stumbled, by chance, into a rather fair comparison of Delphi

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Giuliano Colla
Florian Klaempfl ha scritto: Lord Satan schrieb: [...] That's correct. And if they had used OpenGL for it, it would be hardware accelerated, cross plattform and good looking, too. And we would need no stupid Aero or Compiz or other composition managers. And we could do things other widgetsets

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Giuliano Colla wrote: Florian Klaempfl ha scritto: Lord Satan schrieb: [...] That's correct. And if they had used OpenGL for it, it would be hardware accelerated, cross plattform and good looking, too. And we would need no stupid Aero or Compiz or other

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the real catch. They're not stupid, but they're faced with an impossible task: to implement conflicting specs. vcl implies a number of precise, consistent specs, which dictate component behavior. They're the real value of Delphi.

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/01/2008, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of putting a lot of time in such mostly useless debates (its not the first, and probably not the last) it would have been better to report Yeah, I can't even remember what the original post was about? :-) Regards, - Graeme

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Giuliano Colla
Michael Van Canneyt ha scritto: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Giuliano Colla wrote: Florian Klaempfl ha scritto: Lord Satan schrieb: [...] That's correct. And if they had used OpenGL for it, it would be hardware accelerated, cross plattform and good looking, too. And we would need no stupid Aero or

[lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-21 Thread Al Boldi
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 21/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without a mature IDE to work with, fpGUI isn't worth the trouble. It becomes much easier to learn C++ and use Qt Designer, or whatever. Umm... I don't know how I should take this! :-) fpGUI is by no means

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-21 Thread Lord Satan
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:08:30 +0100 Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 21, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Al Boldi wrote: Joost van der Sluis wrote: Op maandag 21-01-2008 om 16:57 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Al Boldi: Exactly right! The best feature is find

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-21 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Op maandag 21-01-2008 om 19:00 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Al Boldi: Joost van der Sluis wrote: Op maandag 21-01-2008 om 16:57 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Al Boldi: Exactly right! The best feature is find declaration/implementation, but this only works for pascal code. What is

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Den Jean
On Monday 21 January 2008 01:18:56 pm Giuliano Colla wrote: Either one takes the Qt way, i.e. using style to *mimic* the native *look*, without actually using it, and provides a consistent behavior, this does not honour the huge Qt effort. Qt DOES use the native widget when necessary do have

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Micha Nelissen
Giuliano Colla wrote: However, if you're so kind to tell me: 1) What is the irc channel (do I need a life jacket to join it? :-) ) 2) How to join it I'll gladly join the irc channel, because, from a user standpoint, I've Server irc.freenode.net, join #lazarus-ide. See you there ;-) Micha

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Giuliano Colla
Micha Nelissen ha scritto: Giuliano Colla wrote: However, if you're so kind to tell me: 1) What is the irc channel (do I need a life jacket to join it? :-) ) 2) How to join it I'll gladly join the irc channel, because, from a user standpoint, I've Server irc.freenode.net, join #lazarus-ide.

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

2008-01-21 Thread Marc Weustink
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Florian Klaempfl ha escrit: It should be enough to build FPC with OPT=-dFPC_ARMEL So it's now possible to produce eabi code with fpc? Well, I did initial support. If you provide bugs reports, I'll try to fix them. hmm... current

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-21 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:57:39 +0300 Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 21/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without a mature IDE to work with, fpGUI isn't worth the trouble. It becomes much easier to learn C++ and use Qt Designer, or whatever.

[lazarus] [OT] QT licensing costs?

2008-01-21 Thread Lee Jenkins
Can anyone give me an idea of the cost of QT commercial licensing fees? Their website provides only a contact form to get pricing. I was curious what a license would be to deploy on windows and linux. -- Warm Regards, Lee Everything I needed to learn in life, I learned selling

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/01/2008, Joost van der Sluis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Question to think about is why there isn't any open-source native IDE like Lazarus for c/c++ at all?) KDevelop? Eclipse (what I guess that's not native). Regards, - Graeme - ___

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-21 Thread Maxim Ganetsky
Graeme Geldenhuys пишет: On 21/01/2008, Joost van der Sluis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Question to think about is why there isn't any open-source native IDE like Lazarus for c/c++ at all?) KDevelop? Eclipse (what I guess that's not native). There is CodeBlocks too (see

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-21 Thread Marco van de Voort
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 07:00:46PM +0300, Al Boldi wrote: Joost van der Sluis wrote: Op maandag 21-01-2008 om 16:57 uur [tijdzone +0300], schreef Al Boldi: Exactly right! The best feature is find declaration/implementation, but this only works for pascal code. What is needed to make

Re: [lazarus] [OT] QT licensing costs?

2008-01-21 Thread Lee Jenkins
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On Jan 21, 2008 9:44 PM, Lee Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me an idea of the cost of QT commercial licensing fees? Their website provides only a contact form to get pricing. I was curious what a license would be to deploy on windows and

Re: [lazarus] [OT] QT licensing costs?

2008-01-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 21/01/2008, Lee Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone give me an idea of the cost of QT commercial licensing fees? Their website provides only a contact form to get pricing. I was curious what a license would be to deploy on windows and linux. From memory (3 years ago) it was

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-21 Thread Damien Gerard
On Jan 21, 2008, at 10:03 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 21/01/2008, Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 January 2008 01:18:56 pm Giuliano Colla wrote: Either one takes the Qt way, i.e. using style to *mimic* the native *look*, without actually using it, and provides a consistent

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

2008-01-21 Thread Marc Weustink
Marc Weustink wrote: Florian Klaempfl wrote: Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Florian Klaempfl ha escrit: It should be enough to build FPC with OPT=-dFPC_ARMEL So it's now possible to produce eabi code with fpc? Well, I did initial support. If you provide bugs reports, I'll try to fix them.

[lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, This always used to work fine, but lately any Toolbar component doesn't paint it's canvas background. This appears under GTK1 and GTK2. What changed to break it? Can we undo that change to get it back to normal again? It's very annoying when you use the Editor Toolbar add-on package with

[lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 2 of 2]

2008-01-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
[...I forgot the attachment size limit so I split the email in two...] -- Forwarded message -- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22 Jan 2008 09:33 Subject: Lazarus compiled with GTK2 To: lazarus@miraclec.com Hi, Every couple of months I try Lazarus compiled with

[lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-21 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
[...I forgot the attachment size limit so split the email in two...] -- Forwarded message -- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22 Jan 2008 09:33 Subject: Lazarus compiled with GTK2 To: lazarus@miraclec.com Hi, Every couple of months I try Lazarus compiled with

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-21 Thread Paul Ishenin
Graeme Geldenhuys пишет: Hi, This always used to work fine, but lately any Toolbar component doesn't paint it's canvas background. This appears under GTK1 and GTK2. What changed to break it? Can we undo that change to get it back to normal again? It's very annoying when you use the Editor