Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoever broke it, would you mind taking a look at fixing it Please update your svn version and retest once again. That was already fixed. Sorry, but I don't think so. :-( Just got a update. Now running r13826. Did a Build All

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:24:25 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoever broke it, would you mind taking a look at fixing it Please update your svn

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Damien Gerard
On Jan 22, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoever broke it, would you mind taking a look at fixing it Please update your svn version and retest once again. That was

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoever broke it, would you mind taking a look at fixing it Please update your svn version and retest once again. That was already fixed. Sorry, but I don't think so. :-(

Re: [lazarus] Where can I find the snapshot build scripts?

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
Paul Michell schreef: Could someone please tell me where I can find the build scripts for the daily snapshots? My own batch file for reading SVN and building locally has been failing for the last couple of days so I would like to see how the snapshots do it. Most scripts are in

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

2008-01-22 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Marc Weustink schrieb: Marc Weustink wrote: Florian Klaempfl wrote: Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Florian Klaempfl ha escrit: It should be enough to build FPC with OPT=-dFPC_ARMEL So it's now possible to produce eabi code with fpc? Well, I did initial support. If you provide bugs reports,

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

2008-01-22 Thread Marc Weustink
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Marc Weustink schrieb: Marc Weustink wrote: Florian Klaempfl wrote: Luca Olivetti schrieb: En/na Florian Klaempfl ha escrit: It should be enough to build FPC with OPT=-dFPC_ARMEL So it's now possible to produce eabi code with fpc? Well, I did initial support. If

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Mattias Gaertner wrote: Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly right! The best feature is find declaration/implementation, but this only works for pascal code. What is needed to make this work for c/c++? Maybe a plugin for ctags can be written. Yes, that may be the easiest way. But

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

2008-01-22 Thread Marc Weustink
Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Marc Weustink ha escrit: From this I assume syscalls in this case are correct and I guess there is some difference between syscall calling and library calling. Maybe openmoko as an eabi kernel compiled with oabi compatibility? (otherwise I think old style

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

2008-01-22 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Marc Weustink schrieb: Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Marc Weustink ha escrit: From this I assume syscalls in this case are correct and I guess there is some difference between syscall calling and library calling. Maybe openmoko as an eabi kernel compiled with oabi compatibility? (otherwise I

Re: [lazarus] [OT] QT licensing costs?

2008-01-22 Thread Lord Satan
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:41:02 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't use C/C++ but I think they have a kick ass toolkit. Leaps and bounds ahead of anybody else. I am forced to use C++ and Qt at work and I beg to differ.

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Paul Ishenin
Damien Gerard wrote: On Jan 22, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoever broke it, would you mind taking a look at fixing it Please update your svn version and retest

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Damien Gerard wrote: On Jan 22, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoever broke it, would you mind taking a look at fixing

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Paul Ishenin
Mattias Gärtner wrote: GtkApiWidget is a special widget for custom controls, which do everything themselves. It is not for regular LCL controls. TToolButton and TToolBar are also custom controls. AFAIK Marc wanted to replace eventually TToolBar/TToolButton with real widgets (not LCL drawn).

[lazarus] c++ to object pascal converter

2008-01-22 Thread Albert Zeyer
Hi, Is there any automatic C++ to Object Pascal converter? I am thinking of porting a C++ game to Object Pascal and want to have some code as a basic to work with. It's enough if just the syntax got translated and some easy designed objects. Greetings, Albert

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-22 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mattias Gaertner wrote: Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly right! The best feature is find declaration/implementation, but this only works for pascal code. What is needed to make this work for c/c++? Maybe a plugin for ctags can be

[lazarus] generics

2008-01-22 Thread Albert Zeyer
Hi, If have just googled a bit about Generics in FPC and the Lazarus Wiki says that they are implemented since FPC 2.3.1. How is the current state? Are they used? Are all the common containers (like list, vector, map, etc.) available as generic classes? In the FPC reference, it seems

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Graeme Geldenhuys ha scritto: [...I forgot the attachment size limit so split the email in two...] -- Forwarded message -- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22 Jan 2008 09:33 Subject: Lazarus compiled with GTK2 To: lazarus@miraclec.com Hi, Every couple of months

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Paul Ishenin ha scritto: Mattias Gärtner wrote: GtkApiWidget is a special widget for custom controls, which do everything themselves. It is not for regular LCL controls. TToolButton and TToolBar are also custom controls. AFAIK Marc wanted to replace eventually TToolBar/TToolButton with real

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moving implementation from LCL to widgetset is simply the WRONG way to go. Then use fpGUI or mseGUI. This is not wrong way, it is way selected by lazarus team long time ago. Custom controls cannot bring native functionality - only

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Michael Van Canneyt ha scritto: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Giuliano Colla wrote: Florian Klaempfl ha scritto: Lord Satan schrieb: [...] That's correct. And if they had used OpenGL for it, it would be hardware accelerated, cross plattform

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Damien Gerard
On Jan 22, 2008, at 1:31 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that someone is already using GTK2, but I believe that he's not much demanding in terms of graphic appearance. My customers would run after me with a hammer if I'd dare to

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Marc Weustink
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that someone is already using GTK2, but I believe that he's not much demanding in terms of graphic appearance. My customers would run after me with a hammer if I'd dare to show them the current state of the

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Paul Ishenin
Giuliano Colla wrote: Paul Ishenin ha scritto: Mattias Gärtner wrote: GtkApiWidget is a special widget for custom controls, which do everything themselves. It is not for regular LCL controls. TToolButton and TToolBar are also custom controls. AFAIK Marc wanted to replace eventually

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, and I wanted that too, but this is not easy since gtk, win32, carbon and qt needs implementation in one moment. You see what I mean? Moving implementation from LCL to widgetset is simply the WRONG way to go. It pushes Lazarus

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that someone is already using GTK2, but I believe that he's not much demanding in terms of graphic appearance. My customers would run after me with a hammer if I'd dare to show them the current state of the art. :-) I've tried

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Paul Ishenin ha scritto: Giuliano Colla wrote: Paul Ishenin ha scritto: Mattias Gärtner wrote: GtkApiWidget is a special widget for custom controls, which do everything themselves. It is not for regular LCL controls. TToolButton and TToolBar are also custom controls. AFAIK Marc wanted to

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Op dinsdag 22-01-2008 om 15:03 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Graeme Geldenhuys: On 22/01/2008, Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About: move from LCL to widgetset That was the goal of lazarus from the beginning. OK, I get that and respect the choice. I'm simply wondering (from a

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Damien Gerard ha scritto: On Jan 21, 2008, at 10:03 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 21/01/2008, Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 21 January 2008 01:18:56 pm Giuliano Colla wrote: Either one takes the Qt way, i.e. using style to *mimic* the native *look*, without actually using

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About: move from LCL to widgetset That was the goal of lazarus from the beginning. OK, I get that and respect the choice. I'm simply wondering (from a personal point of view) if it's still the right way of doing things? Considering you

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be but GTK1 does not use UTF8. And GTK2 doesn't support Raize Font. :) Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Luiz Americo Pereira Camara
Marc Weustink wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that someone is already using GTK2, but I believe that he's not much demanding in terms of graphic appearance. My customers would run after me with a hammer if I'd dare to show them

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 22/01/2008, Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About: move from LCL to widgetset That was the goal of lazarus from the beginning. OK, I get that and respect the choice. I'm simply wondering (from a personal point of view) if it's

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Damien Gerard
On Jan 22, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May be but GTK1 does not use UTF8. And GTK2 doesn't support Raize Font. :) Which I don't care since it is displaying my japanese texts :) -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Mattias Gärtner wrote: Zitat von Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mattias Gaertner wrote: Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly right! The best feature is find declaration/implementation, but this only works for pascal code. What is needed to make this work for c/c++?

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moving implementation from LCL to widgetset is simply the WRONG way to go. Then use fpGUI or mseGUI. This is not wrong way, it is way selected by lazarus team long time ago. Custom controls cannot bring

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Lord Satan
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:15:03 +0100 Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem is that you have another goal which is to be Delphi compatible. When two goals are in conflict, as they are, you should make a choice. Either drop Delphi compatibility and use native widgetsets, or

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything has its ups and downs. But the nice thing about Lazarus is that it can use for instance FPGUI, which will work on all platforms, hence rendering the whole discussion moot. I was waiting for another 50 or so replies before

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-22 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mattias Gärtner wrote: Zitat von Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mattias Gaertner wrote: Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly right! The best feature is find declaration/implementation, but this only works for pascal code. What is

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Mattias Gärtner ha scritto: Zitat von Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Michael Van Canneyt ha scritto: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Giuliano Colla wrote: Florian Klaempfl ha scritto: Lord Satan schrieb: [...] That's correct. And if they had used OpenGL for it, it would be hardware

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should qt render a native button, if they can draw a qt button with a 'native' looking theme? Are you sure, that qt uses native widgets? Qt has built-in themes (custom coded) and also allows for hooking into the native widgets theme

Re: [lazarus] c++ to object pascal converter

2008-01-22 Thread Luis Quental
On Jan 22, 2008 11:29 AM, Albert Zeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any automatic C++ to Object Pascal converter? I am thinking of porting a C++ game to Object Pascal and want to have some code as a basic to work with. It's enough if just the syntax got translated and some easy

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Chris Kirkpatrick
I don't know whether the Toolbar has been correctly fixed (bug 0010530: Toolbar background not painted), but bug 0010562: (LazDe toolbar shows previous background) certainly has not been resolved - I had assumed it was a consequence of the previous bug, and should be resolved when it was

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Lord Satan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What hw acceleration are you talking about? I don't know of any hw accelerated widgetset. Have a look on SourceForge. I have seen quite a few toolkits implemented in C/C++ and uses OpenGL or SDL or whatever hw acceleration they picked.

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well in all that time I've never met a single customer requiring a native look. On the contrary what I've always been asked for is a specific look, and specific behavior. Amazingly, I have had the exact same experience. They want their

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Lord Satan
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:20:57 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 22/01/2008, Lord Satan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What hw acceleration are you talking about? I don't know of any hw accelerated widgetset. Have a look on SourceForge. I have seen quite a few toolkits

Re: [lazarus] Mac OS X : TBitBtn Transparency

2008-01-22 Thread Tom Gregorovic
On Jan 11, 2008 10:09 AM, Dominique Louis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, Does this mean that TBitBtn under Mac OS X does not support transparency for Bitmaps only via PNGs? I just searched through the code and the Mac OS X Function TButtonGlyph.Draw() in buttonglyph.inc is a bit sparse

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Lord Satan
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:28:15 +0100 Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zitat von Lord Satan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: @Mattias: What hw acceleration are you talking about? I don't know of any hw accelerated widgetset. For example: -gtk on embedded devices can render directly to the

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Lord Satan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [..] - widgetset specific goodies: e.g. tab menu of gtk notebook, unicode input method, assistive technology, hardware acceleration, network support (X client/server modell). @Mattias: What hw acceleration are you talking about? I don't know of

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well in all that time I've never met a single customer requiring a native look. On the contrary what I've always been asked for is a specific look, and specific behavior.

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Lord Satan
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:02:08 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, the ones I looked at was for creating standard applications (not games). They just used shadow events under menus, dropdown animation, etc... On my system the composition manager does this work not the widgetset.

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: As for the latest trunk revision of fpGUI (actually the last week or so) it's been a bit unstable with verbose output. I'm hunting down a few bugs and added lots of debug code in there to test between the supported platforms. It should be back to normal by the end of

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Lord Satan
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:50:16 +0100 Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if a programmer needs uncommon things, he can write a specific control. See for example the printers4lazarus or the lazopenglcontext package. They started on one platform and nowadays they run on all majors.

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Mattias Gärtner
Zitat von Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] Well, Lazarus is intended to develop commercial applications, not GPL utilities to be added to Gnome desktop. Oops. Sorry, I didn't know. Commercial applications take care to provide their own specific look. If we look at some widely known

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before you do that, I just tried fpGUI and it didn't compile due to cursorfont unit missing. So I added {$include cursorfont.inc} from fpc/packages/extra/forms, then it compiles ok, but I get this crash on run using fpc2.0.2: The last time

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Lord Satan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SDL is no acceleration, only if you use its OpenGL wrapper functionality you get hw acceleration. That's what I meant with SDL. I know a lot of those 'widgetsets', too, but they are meant for OpenGL apps and they are not general purpose

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Lord Satan
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:30:48 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does everyone else use Lazarus for? Console apps maybe? For me it is just a hobby (at work there is only C++ and no chance to ever change this). As I do graphics programming I don't need a lot of GUI elements.

Re: [lazarus] c++ to object pascal converter

2008-01-22 Thread Albert Zeyer
Thanks for the hint. Sadly I need the same realy for C++ as most of the code is C++ based (a lot of classes). Am Dienstag, den 22.01.2008, 14:20 + schrieb Luis Quental: On Jan 22, 2008 11:29 AM, Albert Zeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there any automatic C++ to Object Pascal

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Marc Weustink
Lord Satan wrote: On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:15:03 +0100 Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem is that you have another goal which is to be Delphi compatible. When two goals are in conflict, as they are, you should make a choice. Either drop Delphi compatibility and use native

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before you do that, I just tried fpGUI and it didn't compile due to cursorfont unit missing. So I added {$include cursorfont.inc} from fpc/packages/extra/forms, then it compiles ok, but I get this crash on run using

Re: [lazarus] Making the IDE work with C/C++

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Mattias Gärtner wrote: Zitat von Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Exactly right! The best feature is find declaration/implementation, but this only works for pascal code. What is needed to make this work for c/c++? Maybe a plugin for ctags can be written. Yes,

[lazarus] sigsegv with TOpenDialog Win32(XPSP2)

2008-01-22 Thread Armin Diehl
strange problem that happens only if i run the program from within the ide. A blank form, one button and a topendialog (does not matter if it is on the form or manually created). The dialog opens and after some seconds (sometimes i have to move the mouse), i get a sigsegv, Running the program

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Giuliano Colla wrote: I've been earning my bread and butter developing computer applications for 40 years now (my God, how old I've become! :-) ) Wow, that's impressive. Maybe you could share some of your experience regarding these question: What languages did you use? Which one is the best?

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could also add them with {$IFDEF VerboseDebugFewBugs} and use -dVerboseDebugFewBugs in your private builds. I should really do that. Thanks for the idea. Regards, - Graeme - ___

Re: [lazarus] HowTo increase developer contributions

2008-01-22 Thread mramirez
Hi. Long time, not posting about Lazarus. Vincent Snijders wrote: So what we need it users that are willing to become contributors, not Of course, there are many, a lot of people, people that use open (or free) source software like Lazarus, and many of them request things to be done, and

Re: [lazarus] Delphi/Lazarus comparison by Codegear

2008-01-22 Thread mramirez
Quoting Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I stumbled, by chance, into a rather fair comparison of Delphi and Lazarus in the Delphi Wiki: http://delphi.wikia.com/wiki/The_Business_Case_For_Delphi#FreePascal.2FLazarus_.28FP.2FLZ.29 I wonder if there should be a The case against Delphi by the

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I develop major database projects (in Delphi), and none of our customers has ever asked for a specific look. So I would be the last to ask this from lazarus. The thing I am looking for is portability. Our clients normally don't

[lazarus] Fast math library

2008-01-22 Thread Lord Satan
Hi everyone, I just cannot believe that I am the only Lazarus user that writes computational intensive programs. There must be others. If you are one of them I would be really interested to know what math libraries you use to achieve the best performance you can get. AFAIK there are no SSE

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
Al Boldi schreef: Is there any specific reason you are stuck with 2.0.2 and can't upgrade? If it's a good reason, I can consider adding a IFDEF in the code. Well, when Vincent starts posting incremental updates, I may actually be able to upgrade easily. Are you referring to me? If so,

Re: [lazarus] sigsegv with TOpenDialog Win32(XPSP2)

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
Armin Diehl schreef: strange problem that happens only if i run the program from within the ide. A blank form, one button and a topendialog (does not matter if it is on the form or manually created). The dialog opens and after some seconds (sometimes i have to move the mouse), i get a sigsegv,

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any specific reason you are stuck with 2.0.2 and can't upgrade? If it's a good reason, I can consider adding a IFDEF in the code. Well, when Vincent starts posting incremental updates, I may actually be able to upgrade easily.

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Vincent Snijders wrote: Al Boldi schreef: Is there any specific reason you are stuck with 2.0.2 and can't upgrade? If it's a good reason, I can consider adding a IFDEF in the code. Well, when Vincent starts posting incremental updates, I may actually be able to upgrade easily. Are

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
Al Boldi schreef: Vincent Snijders wrote: Al Boldi schreef: Is there any specific reason you are stuck with 2.0.2 and can't upgrade? If it's a good reason, I can consider adding a IFDEF in the code. Well, when Vincent starts posting incremental updates, I may actually be able to upgrade

Re: [lazarus] sigsegv with TOpenDialog Win32(XPSP2)

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Vincent Snijders ha scritto: idea Maybe I should recompile my LCL without unicode support, so I can see this bug. /idea I'trying to track som bugs which may be unicode related. Could you save me a lot of search telling me what I should setup in order to compile LCL without unicode support?

Re: [lazarus] sigsegv with TOpenDialog Win32(XPSP2)

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
Giuliano Colla schreef: Vincent Snijders ha scritto: idea Maybe I should recompile my LCL without unicode support, so I can see this bug. /idea I'trying to track som bugs which may be unicode related. Could you save me a lot of search telling me what I should setup in order to compile LCL

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Vincent Snijders wrote: IMHO zipped incremental updates are impossible, because you cannot zip file removals. I think you can, like this: diff -ruNp file.pas /dev/null file.diff patch file.diff This removes the file. Thanks! -- Al

[lazarus] TStringGrid.Columns.SizePriority

2008-01-22 Thread Lee Jenkins
Hi all, I have some TStrigGrid's on a form with AutoFillColumns := true; I was monkeying around with SizePriority trying to figure out what it did by setting a few columns' SizePriority to 2. At any rate, when running the app with heaptrc active it reports the following on application

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Al Boldi ha scritto: Giuliano Colla wrote: I've been earning my bread and butter developing computer applications for 40 years now (my God, how old I've become! :-) ) Wow, that's impressive. Maybe you could share some of your experience regarding these question: What languages did you use?

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Graeme Geldenhuys ha scritto: On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well in all that time I've never met a single customer requiring a native look. On the contrary what I've always been asked for is a specific look, and specific behavior. Amazingly, I have had the exact same

Re: [lazarus] TStringGrid.Columns.SizePriority

2008-01-22 Thread Jesus Reyes
--- Lee Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi all, I have some TStrigGrid's on a form with AutoFillColumns := true; I was monkeying around with SizePriority trying to figure out what it did by setting a few columns' SizePriority to 2. At any rate, when running the app with

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Jan 22, 2008 8:35 PM, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't say. I read that someone is *using* gtk2. I tried to make a form with a button I suppose you meant the gtk2 Lazarus interface. Well, I use it for: http://magnifier.sourceforge.net/ And works pretty well. The

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Luiz Americo Pereira Camara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gtk2 is in fact slower than Gtk1, every one agree, but LCL/Gtk2 application are much slower than other Gtk2 applications Thanks, that was the point I was trying to make. Regards, - Graeme -

Re: [lazarus] sigsegv with TOpenDialog Win32(XPSP2)

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
Giuliano Colla schreef: Vincent Snijders ha scritto: I'trying to track som bugs which may be unicode related. Could you save me a lot of search telling me what I should setup in order to compile LCL without unicode support? Nothing. On win32, LCL without unicode support is still the

Re: [lazarus] sigsegv with TOpenDialog Win32(XPSP2)

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Vincent Snijders ha scritto: I'trying to track som bugs which may be unicode related. Could you save me a lot of search telling me what I should setup in order to compile LCL without unicode support? Nothing. On win32, LCL without unicode support is still the default. Sorry, I forgot to

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Joost van der Sluis ha scritto: Op dinsdag 22-01-2008 om 15:03 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Graeme Geldenhuys: On 22/01/2008, Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About: move from LCL to widgetset That was the goal of lazarus from the beginning. OK, I get that and respect the choice.

Re: [lazarus] sigsegv with TOpenDialog Win32(XPSP2)

2008-01-22 Thread Armin Diehl
Vincent Snijders wrote: Armin Diehl schreef: strange problem that happens only if i run the program from within the ide. A blank form, one button and a topendialog (does not matter if it is on the form or manually created). The dialog opens and after some seconds (sometimes i have to move the

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Giuliano Colla wrote: Al Boldi ha scritto: Giuliano Colla wrote: I've been earning my bread and butter developing computer applications for 40 years now (my God, how old I've become! :-) ) Wow, that's impressive. Maybe you could share some of your experience regarding these

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
I see a lot of complains / demands, so I can't help but to say: If you see a problem, you can contribute a fix. If you expect someone else to fix it for you (doesn't matter who broke it), at least be polite and patient. If you don't like Lazarus, get your money back. thank you for your

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 22/01/2008, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I probably never used the things you mentioned on gtk2, so I never noticed they don't work and never had the need to find out why they Maybe we should create a 'universal' widget set test application... Remember the old one in

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
Al Boldi schreef: Vincent Snijders wrote: IMHO zipped incremental updates are impossible, because you cannot zip file removals. I think you can, like this: diff -ruNp file.pas /dev/null file.diff patch file.diff This removes the file. Ok. You can download your patch by (all on one

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: On 22/01/2008, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I probably never used the things you mentioned on gtk2, so I never noticed they don't work and never had the need to find out why they Maybe we should create a 'universal' widget set test

Re: [lazarus] sigsegv with TOpenDialog Win32(XPSP2)

2008-01-22 Thread Armin Diehl
just to be sure, retested it with a fresh xp sp2 install under vmware, (no additional software installed) it is reproducible with the small code i already posted. Vincent Snijders wrote: Giuliano Colla schreef: Vincent Snijders ha scritto: I'trying to track som bugs which may be unicode

Re: [lazarus] What is wrong with the Toolbar?

2008-01-22 Thread Al Boldi
Vincent Snijders wrote: Ok. You can download your patch by (all on one line): svn diff http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/tags/release_2_0_2 http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/fpc/tags/release_2_2_0 ugrade.patch Thanks a lot! When will this be on sourceforge as .bz2? Thanks again for the great

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Marc Weustink
Luiz Americo Pereira Camara wrote: Marc Weustink wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that someone is already using GTK2, but I believe that he's not much demanding in terms of graphic appearance. My customers would run after me with

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Al Boldi ha scritto: Giuliano Colla wrote: Which one is the best? : : Among OOPL doubtlessly Pascal. Why? Well, Pascal syntax is much cleaner. It's been planned. C syntax appears to have been made on the way. C (and C++) try to avoid typing as much as possible, and this makes code much

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Damien Gerard
On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Marc Weustink wrote: Luiz Americo Pereira Camara wrote: Marc Weustink wrote: Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 22/01/2008, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I gather that someone is already using GTK2, but I believe that he's not much demanding in terms of

Re: [lazarus] sqldb query parameter properties not loaded?

2008-01-22 Thread John
John wrote: Hi, Environment: win32, Lazarus SVN 13347, fpc SVN 9468 In Lazarus, I have a simple query that uses a parameter: select * from test_cld where code = :code; I am defining it at design time using the object inspector. I set the property parameters to ftString and ptInput, save

Re: [lazarus] TStringGrid.Columns.SizePriority

2008-01-22 Thread Lee Jenkins
Jesus Reyes wrote: --- Lee Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi all, I have some TStrigGrid's on a form with AutoFillColumns := true; I was monkeying around with SizePriority trying to figure out what it did by setting a few columns' SizePriority to 2. At any rate, when running the app

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

2008-01-22 Thread Giuliano Colla
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ha scritto: On Jan 22, 2008 8:35 PM, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't say. I read that someone is *using* gtk2. I tried to make a form with a button I suppose you meant the gtk2 Lazarus interface. Well, I use it for:

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus compiled with GTK2 [part 1 of 2]

2008-01-22 Thread Paul Ishenin
Luiz Americo Pereira Camara wrote: Gtk2 is in fact slower than Gtk1, every one agree, but LCL/Gtk2 application are much slower than other Gtk2 applications Is it possible to profile gtk2 lcl application and find what cause this slowleness? Who can do? Best regards, Paul Ishenin.

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