Andrew Haines wrote:
The unit/package to control lhelp (modified LGPL) does not link to
lhelp in any way. It talks to it using the IPC units that come with
fpc. basically sending to lhelp text commands. You may distribute the
lhelp program with your program but that does not make your
Le jeudi 11 mai 2006 à 12:29 -0600, L505 a écrit :
and create a web program that allows users to search the documents on my
website? With a
real database you can upload your help documents to a web server and create a
web program
that searches your docs. Then your company will get much
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Luiz Americo wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt escreveu:
sqlite is good candidate too (multiplatform,single file,fast, only
one
dll/so required)
Sorry, but no:
- No external dependencies, please.
- Specifically: sqlite is a horrible database for use in
George Lober wrote:
The code in /components/chmhelp looks like it's either GPL or LGPL.
For code that would need to be used in target application, could
these be changed to the Modified LGPL? Also the license headers refer
to COPYING.LCL which I can't find anywhere ??
The chm viewer
Michael Van Canneyt escreveu:
On Thu, 11 May 2006, Luiz Americo wrote:
Michael Van Canneyt escreveu:
sqlite is good candidate too (multiplatform,single file,fast, only
one
dll/so required)
Sorry, but no:
- No external dependencies, please.
- Specifically: sqlite is a
On Fri, 12 May 2006, Luiz Americo wrote:
I did more tests, all give comparable results: sqlite is very fast for
simple stuff.
Your results are comparable from one made without index published in sqlite
wiki, but when using index, according to the test, sqlite compares to the
other.
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On 5/11/06, Andrew Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sigh. :) Have a look in the components/chmhelp directory. In that
directory is a program written entirely in pascal that uses the LCL to
view chm files using the TurboPowerIpro HTML component and a package
Michael Van Canneyt escreveu:
On Fri, 12 May 2006, Luiz Americo wrote:
I did more tests, all give comparable results: sqlite is very fast
for simple stuff.
Your results are comparable from one made without index published in
sqlite wiki, but when using index, according to the test, sqlite
In your lazarus directory /components/chmhelp/packages/chm/ there is a
unit called chmreader. It is simple to get a list of any of the files in
the chm and extracting them:
That's how easy it is to get all the files out of a chm :)
Okay so its easy to get the HTML out of CHM (legally.. not
On 5/12/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BTW Felipe, if you are listening - CHM was not available on Windows CE either -
someone
has done some work to get it working on Windows CE though.. just as someone got
SQLite
working on Windows CE. My point is that databases are no worse than CHM for
George Lober wrote:
Looking at it , it looks like it is all dependent on LHelp, which is
GPL. So if I can't compile that into my application or distribute it
under my license, you are left with situation where the end user
somehow has to get LHelp themselves. Are they supposed to
On 10/05/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
browsing around. I would NOT want all my HTML files compiled into one file
because I want
to look into each html file and see how it is designed - plus single files are
more prone
to corruption than multiple files.
I think you are one of a selected
On 10/05/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does Apache Server work on Windows CE? So I shouldn't use Apache for a
webserver, just
because it isn't truly cross-platform? Sometimes people get carried away with
the
whole cross platform advantage - when really there would be no advantage of
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 05:05:18PM +0200, Giuliano Colla wrote:
Graeme Geldenhuys ha scritto:
[...]
What does Qt offer in help formats?
Qt provides standard html files, and a navigation program called
assistant, which provides a sidebar, and other navigation tools, but
they specify
Does Apache Server work on Windows CE? So I shouldn't use Apache for a
webserver, just
because it isn't truly cross-platform? Sometimes people get carried away
with the
whole cross platform advantage - when really there would be no advantage of
having
Dude, you are missing the
I think you are one of a selected few. CHM is basically compiled html
files into one file. Why would I want to see the code of each help
file I am viewing. All I want in the content.
A single file is great for distribution (smaller and easier to copy)
compared tho say a 1000 html pages
On 5/11/06, Andrew Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In your lazarus directory /components/chmhelp/packages/chm/ there is a
unit called chmreader. It is simple to get a list of any of the files in
the chm and extracting them:
Some questions:
1 - Does that use any external dll or other
Michael Van Canneyt escreveu:
sqlite is good candidate too (multiplatform,single file,fast, only one
dll/so required)
Sorry, but no:
- No external dependencies, please.
- Specifically: sqlite is a horrible database for use in Pascal.
Based in what you say that?
In fact the TDataset
On 5/11/06, Andrew Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sigh. :) Have a look in the components/chmhelp directory. In that
directory is a program written entirely in pascal that uses the LCL to
view chm files using the TurboPowerIpro HTML component and a package to
integrate that program in the IDE.
Andrew Haines wrote:
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On 5/11/06, Andrew Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In your lazarus directory /components/chmhelp/packages/chm/ there is a
unit called chmreader. It is simple to get a list of any of the
files in
the chm and extracting them:
Some
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 09/05/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sqlite is good candidate too (multiplatform,single file,fast, only one
dll/so required)
Sorry, but no:
- No external dependencies, please.
I agree on this. It must be a self standing format without any
George Lober wrote:
Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
2006/5/9, Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
A drawback of chm, that I don't know about free tools to generate it
except the
Microsoft Help Workshop, which is windows only. No problem for me,
because windows
is my main platform, but still.
I
On Wed, 10 May 2006, Bogusaw Brandys wrote:
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 09/05/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sqlite is good candidate too (multiplatform,single file,fast, only one
dll/so required)
Sorry, but no:
- No external dependencies, please.
I agree on this. It
On 10/05/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A lot slower I think. Hence the reason most help systems seem to
generate some type of index system when building the help files.
Michael Hess has a system that does this for HTML.
So at least we have someone with the knowledge of how
On Wed, 10 May 2006, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 09/05/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or, you could search the HTML/XML files.. but it would be slower than
just searching a DB directly.
A lot slower I think. Hence the reason most help systems seem to
generate some type of index system
On 09/05/06, Joost van der Sluis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What does OpenOffice use for it's help-files?
OpenOffice uses 4 files per help file/topic. .cfg .db .ht and .jar
The .jar file contants .xhp files which are XML files. The also have
a few .css files lying around in the help
On 09/05/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux - has no standard help!
Man Pages!
Ok, ok but I am maybe referring more to the GUI side [and xman doens't
count! ;-) ].
Applications like Mozilla FireFox, OpenOffice.org, KDevelop etc
doesn't release man pages. Man pages are inherently used
On 09/05/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or, you could search the HTML/XML files.. but it would be slower than
just searching a DB directly.
A lot slower I think. Hence the reason most help systems seem to
generate some type of index system when building the help files.
Regards,
- Graeme
On 09/05/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sqlite is good candidate too (multiplatform,single file,fast, only one
dll/so required)
Sorry, but no:
- No external dependencies, please.
I agree on this. It must be a self standing format without any
3rdParty requirements.
Even CHM format
creates multiple files and depends on them.
I actually meant HLP format on Win32
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On 5/10/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't see the big deal with external dependencies because almost all programs
have one
or more external dependencies: a system DLL/DSO, a config file, etc.
I have. Lazarus works for Windows CE, does sqlite work on it?
Remember - HTML files ARE an
I don't see the big deal with external dependencies because almost all
programs have one
or more external dependencies: a system DLL/DSO, a config file, etc.
I have. Lazarus works for Windows CE, does sqlite work on it?
http://sqlite-wince.sourceforge.net/
But I wouldn't want to read or
On 5/10/06, Bogusław Brandys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not so fast. Look deeper into source code and you will find calls to M$
OCX :-( I haven't time to confirm that but it looks like a crap based on
M$ ActiveX for generating CHM (other parts are good - for Winhelp,RTF etc)
I also took a closer
On Tue, 9 May 2006 09:24:33 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Has anybody put some thought into creating a cross platform help file
format that Lazarus could use in the IDE and in applications created
with Lazarus?
It was discussed several times on the lists and 10 people gave
On 09/05/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not very much in favour of creating yet another format.
Standards exist, we should try to use them as much as possible.
Linux - has no standard help!
OS X - never used it, so no idea what help format they use.
Windows - Isn't the
On Tue, 9 May 2006, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 09/05/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not very much in favour of creating yet another format.
Standards exist, we should try to use them as much as possible.
Linux - has no standard help!
OS X - never used it, so no idea
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
I was thinking in terms of release format for end users. Editing
could be done exactly like the windows help formats. HLP is generated
from a rich text file (RTF). I think CHM is as well. We could
generate our final help file from XML. DocBook also does it that way.
2006/5/9, Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
A drawback of chm, that I don't know about free tools to generate it except the
Microsoft Help Workshop, which is windows only. No problem for me, because
windows
is my main platform, but still.
I have heard (not tested) that the only actual open
I'm sorry, I can't find the source code... :(
The only code on sourceforge, well, I don't know if this is the
compiler itself, but it does not look like. Any-way I've no time now
to look at that, but I will because this is interesting me a lot for
our own help file creation.
--
Alexandre
2006/5/9, A.J. Venter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 15:53, Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
I'm sorry, I can't find the source code... :(
The only code on sourceforge, well, I don't know if this is the
compiler itself, but it does not look like. Any-way I've no time now
to look at that,
Graeme Geldenhuys ha scritto:
[...]
What does Qt offer in help formats?
Qt provides standard html files, and a navigation program called
assistant, which provides a sidebar, and other navigation tools, but
they specify that a standard browser can be used instead.
No particular file format,
On 09/05/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not very much in favour of creating yet another format.
Standards exist, we should try to use them as much as possible.
Linux - has no standard help!
Man Pages!
Indexing? use grep! (detect sarcasm here).
L505 wrote:
On 09/05/06, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not very much in favour of creating yet another format.
Standards exist, we should try to use them as much as possible.
Linux - has no standard help!
Right, Linux has no help.
Linux is a Kernel!
I'm not very much in favour of creating yet another format.
Standards exist, we should try to use them as much as possible.
It's already discussed on IRC, and maybe it could be a problem on large
files, but is ODT (opendocument format) an option? Those are xml-files,
which we already have, but
2006/5/9, A.J. Venter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 15:53, Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
I'm sorry, I can't find the source code... :(
The only code on sourceforge, well, I don't know if this is the
compiler itself, but it does not look like. Any-way I've no time now
to
2006/5/9, Joost van der Sluis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm not very much in favour of creating yet another format.
Standards exist, we should try to use them as much as possible.
It's already discussed on IRC, and maybe it could be a problem on large
files, but is ODT (opendocument format) an
Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
2006/5/9, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2006/5/9, A.J. Venter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 15:53, Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
But my personal idea on help files for lazarus would probably be:
- get very well built html files with many links
- build a search
On Tue, 9 May 2006, [UTF-8] BogusÅaw Brandys wrote:
Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
2006/5/9, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2006/5/9, A.J. Venter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 15:53, Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
But my personal idea on help files for lazarus would probably be:
- get
bobby wrote:
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
I was thinking in terms of release format for end users. Editing
could be done exactly like the windows help formats. HLP is generated
from a rich text file (RTF). I think CHM is as well. We could
generate our final help file from XML. DocBook also
Andrew Haines wrote:
I checked out HTML Help Maker
http://download.savannah.gnu.org/releases/hhm/ and it can only create
the archive format that chms are. It cannot currently create the TOC
or index file or any of the other special chm related files that are
in a chm.
However if we created
Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
2006/5/9, Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
A drawback of chm, that I don't know about free tools to generate it
except the
Microsoft Help Workshop, which is windows only. No problem for me,
because windows
is my main platform, but still.
I have heard (not
sqlite is good candidate too (multiplatform,single file,fast, only one
dll/so required)
Sorry, but no:
- No external dependencies, please.
- Specifically: sqlite is a horrible database for use in Pascal.
And very slow for complex queries, in general.
What database is good for Pascal?
On 5/9/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do any even exist?
There is at least TDBf component for DBase and some memory database
components, but neither is suitable for a help system.
thanks,
--
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
_
Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
2006/5/9, A.J. Venter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 15:53, Alexandre Leclerc wrote:
I'm sorry, I can't find the source code... :(
The only code on sourceforge, well, I don't know if this is the
compiler itself, but it does not look like. Any-way I've
On 5/9/06, George Lober [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The project seems quite inactive, showing 0 developers,
Lol!!! With 0 developers just anyone can takeover the project and
become administrator.
This is a very good opportunity to take the project and put the source
on it's CVS so a community
On 5/9/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is at least TDBf component for DBase and some memory database
components, but neither is suitable for a help system.
Really.. and why? Too square?
DBase creates too many files.
--
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
There is at least TDBf component for DBase and some memory database
components, but neither is suitable for a help system.
Really.. and why? Too square?
DBase creates too many files.
How many for say a 100MB database or so ? 100's? Are they big files that take
up lots of
space?
On 5/10/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many for say a 100MB database or so ? 100's? Are they big files that take
up lots of
space?
No, they are small, but they are many.
1 per table
1 per index
and some other extras
--
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
On 5/10/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How many for say a 100MB database or so ? 100's? Are they big files
that take up lots of
space?
No, they are small, but they are many.
1 per table
1 per index
No actually, the indexes are combined into one file:
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