Re: [LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

[Philip Solida]

Go to file ribbon... restore file... from cloud... once logged in you have
the option to restore or delete your file. Do what you want..

On Aug 8, 2017 7:06 AM, "Dennis Murphy"  wrote:

Good point and new question: How do I permanently DELETE my file in the
Legacy cloud?

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> I am amazed at the amount of recent anguish and hand-wringing about
> MyHeritage and Legacy. My take is that putting your info in the cloud is to
> promote sharing. You see my tree, I see your tree. It's give an take. If
> you just want to surf the web and check everyone else's data but are
> unwilling to open your site to others, then I consider you to be greedy. I
> see no reason to make your file private. If you just want to use it as a
> backup, why put it up there in the first place.? Why not keep your data on
> your desktop or if you're so paranoid, put it on 3x5 cards in a shoe box
> and put it under your bed. There is plenty of security built in if you
> would try using it instead of complaining about it.
> Same holds true on upgrading to Version 9. I used to keep my data on
> chiseled sandstone, then they invented paper and pencil, Oh Heavens, should
> I upgrade? Then they invented computer programs, with each version making
> improvements. Bite the bullet and learn to use the latest technology.
> Do you still use 5 inch floppy disks, and maybe cassette Basic?
> Flame-off
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

[Dennis Murphy]

Good point and new question: How do I permanently DELETE my file in the
Legacy cloud?

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> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:42:59 -0400
> Subject: Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9
> I am amazed at the amount of recent anguish and hand-wringing about
> MyHeritage and Legacy. My take is that putting your info in the cloud is to
> promote sharing. You see my tree, I see your tree. It's give an take. If
> you just want to surf the web and check everyone else's data but are
> unwilling to open your site to others, then I consider you to be greedy. I
> see no reason to make your file private. If you just want to use it as a
> backup, why put it up there in the first place.? Why not keep your data on
> your desktop or if you're so paranoid, put it on 3x5 cards in a shoe box
> and put it under your bed. There is plenty of security built in if you
> would try using it instead of complaining about it.
> Same holds true on upgrading to Version 9. I used to keep my data on
> chiseled sandstone, then they invented paper and pencil, Oh Heavens, should
> I upgrade? Then they invented computer programs, with each version making
> improvements. Bite the bullet and learn to use the latest technology.
> Do you still use 5 inch floppy disks, and maybe cassette Basic?
> Flame-off
> Wayne Barner
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

[Denise Moss-Fritch]

John, you really need to read the privacy policy dealing with family trees on 
MyHeritage. Your second paragraph is not even remotely accurate for MyHeritage.

 

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au
Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 5:27 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

 

To me, MH appears to have a company culture or business model of ripping-off 
customers. I think it will affect Millennia. There would have been negotiations 
going on between them during the lead up to release of Legacy 9. Was it a 
coincidence that Millennia did not allow us to run Legacy 8 and 9 at the same 
time, or was MH’s tentacles or influence already in Millennia? It seems to 
getting more like MH which is geared to channelling customers like sheep 
through a sheep-dip.  Also Millennia has already started straying from  
standalone Legacy with cloud storage of family files.

Many, if not all companies with cloud technology (e.g. social media and Google 
Docs etc.) have in their terms and conditions that they can use anything in any 
way they like. They render copyright useless for the customer. Any time in the 
future, at their whim, they can do anything and everything with your data, 
narratives or images etc.

John

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

[johnbernacki1]

To me, MH appears to have a company culture or business model of ripping-off 
customers. I think it will affect Millennia. There would have been negotiations 
going on between them during the lead up to release of Legacy 9. Was it a 
coincidence that Millennia did not allow us to run Legacy 8 and 9 at the same 
time, or was MH’s tentacles or influence already in Millennia? It seems to 
getting more like MH which is geared to channelling customers like sheep 
through a sheep-dip.  Also Millennia has already started straying from  
standalone Legacy with cloud storage of family files.

Many, if not all companies with cloud technology (e.g. social media and Google 
Docs etc.) have in their terms and conditions that they can use anything in any 
way they like. They render copyright useless for the customer. Any time in the 
future, at their whim, they can do anything and everything with your data, 
narratives or images etc.

John


From: Philip Solida 
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:41 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

Add that to placing indo of living persons as readily available could be 
IDENTITY THEFT 

On Aug 7, 2017 7:40 PM, "Philip Solida" <psol...@gmail.com> wrote:

  Seeing work placed there by me or copying it is one thing giving the 
ability to others to edit it without my permission because you bought the Web 
site or program and I do not subscribe to your site is another... that is 
plain, pure theft of my intellectual property and work and holding it for 
ransom, or giving it to others who may well have no idea what they are talking 
about..  even if they do, PERMISSION OF THE OWNER OF THE WORK (one who placed 
it on a site they bought) is and should be necessary... anything else is THEFT.

  On Aug 7, 2017 5:51 PM, "wabby62--- via LegacyUserGroup" 
<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

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Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:42:59 -0400
Subject: Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9
I am amazed at the amount of recent anguish and hand-wringing about 
MyHeritage and Legacy. My take is that putting your info in the cloud is to 
promote sharing. You see my tree, I see your tree. It's give an take. If you 
just want to surf the web and check everyone else's data but are unwilling to 
open your site to others, then I consider you to be greedy. I see no reason to 
make your file private. If you just want to use it as a backup, why put it up 
there in the first place.? Why not keep your data on your desktop or if you're 
so paranoid, put it on 3x5 cards in a shoe box and put it under your bed. There 
is plenty of security built in if you would try using it instead of complaining 
about it.
Same holds true on upgrading to Version 9. I used to keep my data on 
chiseled sandstone, then they invented paper and pencil, Oh Heavens, should I 
upgrade? Then they invented computer programs, with each version making 
improvements. Bite the bullet and learn to use the latest technology. 
Do you still use 5 inch floppy disks, and maybe cassette Basic?
Flame-off
Wayne Barner

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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

[Philip Solida]

Add that to placing indo of living persons as readily available could be
IDENTITY THEFT

On Aug 7, 2017 7:40 PM, "Philip Solida"  wrote:

> Seeing work placed there by me or copying it is one thing giving the
> ability to others to edit it without my permission because you bought the
> Web site or program and I do not subscribe to your site is another... that
> is plain, pure theft of my intellectual property and work and holding it
> for ransom, or giving it to others who may well have no idea what they are
> talking about..  even if they do, PERMISSION OF THE OWNER OF THE WORK (one
> who placed it on a site they bought) is and should be necessary... anything
> else is THEFT.
>
> On Aug 7, 2017 5:51 PM, "wabby62--- via LegacyUserGroup" <
> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:
>
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>> imposed by some email providers. Users who want to send messages
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>> providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
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>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: wabb...@aol.com
>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
>> Cc:
>> Bcc:
>> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:42:59 -0400
>> Subject: Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9
>> I am amazed at the amount of recent anguish and hand-wringing about
>> MyHeritage and Legacy. My take is that putting your info in the cloud is to
>> promote sharing. You see my tree, I see your tree. It's give an take. If
>> you just want to surf the web and check everyone else's data but are
>> unwilling to open your site to others, then I consider you to be greedy. I
>> see no reason to make your file private. If you just want to use it as a
>> backup, why put it up there in the first place.? Why not keep your data on
>> your desktop or if you're so paranoid, put it on 3x5 cards in a shoe box
>> and put it under your bed. There is plenty of security built in if you
>> would try using it instead of complaining about it.
>> Same holds true on upgrading to Version 9. I used to keep my data on
>> chiseled sandstone, then they invented paper and pencil, Oh Heavens, should
>> I upgrade? Then they invented computer programs, with each version making
>> improvements. Bite the bullet and learn to use the latest technology.
>> Do you still use 5 inch floppy disks, and maybe cassette Basic?
>> Flame-off
>> Wayne Barner
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

[Philip Solida]

Seeing work placed there by me or copying it is one thing giving the
ability to others to edit it without my permission because you bought the
Web site or program and I do not subscribe to your site is another... that
is plain, pure theft of my intellectual property and work and holding it
for ransom, or giving it to others who may well have no idea what they are
talking about..  even if they do, PERMISSION OF THE OWNER OF THE WORK (one
who placed it on a site they bought) is and should be necessary... anything
else is THEFT.

On Aug 7, 2017 5:51 PM, "wabby62--- via LegacyUserGroup" <
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

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> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
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> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2017 11:42:59 -0400
> Subject: Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9
> I am amazed at the amount of recent anguish and hand-wringing about
> MyHeritage and Legacy. My take is that putting your info in the cloud is to
> promote sharing. You see my tree, I see your tree. It's give an take. If
> you just want to surf the web and check everyone else's data but are
> unwilling to open your site to others, then I consider you to be greedy. I
> see no reason to make your file private. If you just want to use it as a
> backup, why put it up there in the first place.? Why not keep your data on
> your desktop or if you're so paranoid, put it on 3x5 cards in a shoe box
> and put it under your bed. There is plenty of security built in if you
> would try using it instead of complaining about it.
> Same holds true on upgrading to Version 9. I used to keep my data on
> chiseled sandstone, then they invented paper and pencil, Oh Heavens, should
> I upgrade? Then they invented computer programs, with each version making
> improvements. Bite the bullet and learn to use the latest technology.
> Do you still use 5 inch floppy disks, and maybe cassette Basic?
> Flame-off
> Wayne Barner
>
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[LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

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I am amazed at the amount of recent anguish and hand-wringing about MyHeritage 
and Legacy. My take is that putting your info in the cloud is to promote 
sharing. You see my tree, I see your tree. It's give an take. If you just want 
to surf the web and check everyone else's data but are unwilling to open your 
site to others, then I consider you to be greedy. I see no reason to make your 
file private. If you just want to use it as a backup, why put it up there in 
the first place.? Why not keep your data on your desktop or if you're so 
paranoid, put it on 3x5 cards in a shoe box and put it under your bed. There is 
plenty of security built in if you would try using it instead of complaining 
about it.
Same holds true on upgrading to Version 9. I used to keep my data on chiseled 
sandstone, then they invented paper and pencil, Oh Heavens, should I upgrade? 
Then they invented computer programs, with each version making improvements. 
Bite the bullet and learn to use the latest technology. 
Do you still use 5 inch floppy disks, and maybe cassette Basic?
Flame-off
Wayne Barner
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