[OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms - The Early Years

2010-08-22 Thread Mike Collinson
Liz, You asked about the early intent of the Contributor Terms before they were re-written by legal counsel. As promised: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes or directly https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1lVQlsnuEKPY2gjspScwHqgmo8RyoqmuaWWmWh58T4TY 0.1

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY-SA is compatible with ODbL?

2010-08-22 Thread Mike Collinson
At 10:46 AM 14/08/2010, Rob Myers wrote: On 08/14/2010 07:33 AM, Liz wrote: If you believe, like many data donors, that the attribution must be preserved, then a licence which incorporates the viral provisions is necessary. The ODbL does incorporate attribution. From a given work you can find

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY is compatible with ODbL/CT?

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org; Francis Davey fjm...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 2:38 PM Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY is compatible with ODbL/CT? (Was

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY is compatible with ODbL/CT?

2010-08-22 Thread Mike Collinson
At 05:50 PM 22/08/2010, David Groom wrote: Intent: (1) Section 4 always was intended to allow and encourage governmental organisation imports that require attribution under the standard terms without need for derogation. (2) Maintain maximum flexibility for future choices. The license used in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY-SA is compatible with ODbL - a philosophical point

2010-08-22 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: 80n 80n...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY-SA is compatible with ODbL - a philosophical point On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 5:44 PM,

[OSM-legal-talk] New license for business: meh

2010-08-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, I'm sort of sick of allegations that what I say and do in the community is somehow tainted by myself doing business in OSM. Here's a quote from talk a while ago: Chris Browet wrote: The fact that many key players (SteveC, Frederik, Richard(?)) in the project also have commercial

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY-SA is compatible with ODbL - a philosophical point

2010-08-22 Thread 80n
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:50 PM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.netwrote: - Original Message - From: 80n 80n...@gmail.com To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is CC-BY-SA is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license for business: meh

2010-08-22 Thread Nic Roets
I can't speak for Chris, but you don't make me nervous because you're quite open and you don't drive any issues that may have business implications. On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, I'm sort of sick of allegations that what I say and do in the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New license for business: meh

2010-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: I can't speak for Chris, but you [Frederik] don't make me nervous because you're quite open and you don't drive any issues that may have business implications. He doesn't make me nervous, but I wouldn't want him (or anyone

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms - The Early Years

2010-08-22 Thread SomeoneElse
On 22/08/2010 15:27, Mike Collinson wrote: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes or directly https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1lVQlsnuEKPY2gjspScwHqgmo8RyoqmuaWWmWh58T4TY 0.1 https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=18q0b_f_-rtuWWC04qaAcO3NY_Aob2QjY2gGRMmo0IrM 0.2

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms - The Early Years

2010-08-22 Thread Richard Weait
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:58 PM, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:  On 22/08/2010 15:27, Mike Collinson wrote: http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes or directly https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1lVQlsnuEKPY2gjspScwHqgmo8RyoqmuaWWmWh58T4TY 0.1

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Contributor Terms - The Early Years

2010-08-22 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: That's an open question for the lawyer that wrote the CT.  In casual conversation with one lawyer (casual as in I wasn't paying the lawyer) I was told that legal-English is not FORTRAN and the or is not required for