Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-05-18 Thread Simon Poole
I think you are misunderstanding my concern. Naturally we are not negating that there may be cases in which we are liable for damages because a court comes to the conclusion that we negligent in one way or the other, but that would be in court where we have a chance to defend ourselves against

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-05-17 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
I will be happy to proceed according to Rex's instructions, but not until Simon says it is OK. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-05-16 Thread Rex Tsai
Hi, Since the open data on data.gov.tw from Taiwan government covers only Taiwan, I assumed that any legal case will be following Taiwan law and Taiwan Civil Code. On your concern, "does useful things with the data" does not mean a mapper can just import the data negligently. I believe any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-05-16 Thread Simon Poole
Good to see that 6.3 at least raised half an eye brow with the OKFN, they seem to however chosen the most harmless interpretation possible, my reading would be that it could be equivalent to a hold harmless/indemnification clause. Now for probably 99.9% of OKFNs audience the concerns are probably

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-05-16 Thread Rex Tsai
Hi, "Open Government Data License Taiwan 1.0" just has been approved as Open Definition Conformant License[1] last month. There were some discussion[2] about clause 6.3, it does not impose any additional agreement nor does it impose any restrictions, but a reminding and a corresponding clause

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-05-15 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
OK thanks Simon for the clarification! I'll ask the participants of https://www.facebook.com/groups/odtwn/permalink/1927450013936074/?comment_id=1927539973927078 and https://discuss.okfn.org/t/license-approval-request-open-government-data-license-taiwan-1-0/4593/12 to chime in here to get this

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-05-15 Thread Simon Poole
As has already been pointed out 3.2 could be problematic. The translation is a bit wobbly and unclear, but if I understand it correctly the intent is to reference a data set specific attribution requirement that would naturally have to be looked at for any specific data use. The really killer is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-05-05 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
Yes I wrote the legal questions people week ago but nobody replied. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-05-04 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
Yes I asked legal-questions a week ago and no one answered. Perhaps someone could ask them for me. Thanks. > "KL" == Kathleen Lu writes: KL> Hi Dan, KL> The English version, at least, appears less restrictive than CC BY 4.0, and KL> closer to the Canada Open Government License. The license

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-04-25 Thread Kathleen Lu
Hi Dan, The English version, at least, appears less restrictive than CC BY 4.0, and closer to the Canada Open Government License. The license is not specific as to the type of attribution required. The conservative route, is, as Frederik said, to ask the agency if attribution on the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Taiwan Open Government Data License

2017-04-25 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 04/25/2017 01:38 AM, 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > What do you folks think about > http://data.gov.tw/license#eng ? > Can we use that data? Not without further clarification. The way in which we would use the data could be seen as violating their 3.2: "[The user] must make an explicit notice