Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps

2013-07-15 Thread Jerzy Łogiewa
Okay great! So there are some in support to this, how to start? * Choose 1 project * Get author approval * Find designer * Get estimate * Research crowdfund sites * Build campaign Should we vote this first one? My hand goes up to the Jitsi! -- Jerzy Łogiewa -- jerz...@interia.eu -- Too many

Re: [liberationtech] Ether Rag: Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy

2013-07-15 Thread micah
Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu writes: Standard Wiretaps DuckDuckGo can easily be compelled either under the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA), standard court orders, or Under CALEA? No, DDG cannot be compelled under CALEA. I have a hard time continuing to

Re: [liberationtech] Ether Rag: Duck Duck Go: Illusion of Privacy

2013-07-15 Thread Alec Muffett
A blog was created and this is its first and only post. Why are we so exercised about its wrongness? Has the author some supposed credibility of which I am unaware? -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing

[liberationtech] Surespot? Re: Feedback on Threema - Seriously secure mobile messaging.

2013-07-15 Thread Moritz Bartl
Surespot looks like an open source alternative: https://www.surespot.me/ https://www.surespot.me/documents/how_surespot_works.html technical overview User creation- When a user is created in surespot two ECC (secp521) key pairs are generated, one for key derivation, and one for signing. The

Re: [liberationtech] [cryptography] Heml.is - The Beautiful Secure Messenger

2013-07-15 Thread Eugen Leitl
- Forwarded message from ianG i...@iang.org - Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:17:22 +0300 From: ianG i...@iang.org To: cryptogra...@randombit.net Subject: Re: [cryptography] [liberationtech] Heml.is - The Beautiful Secure Messenger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8;

Re: [liberationtech] WeChat

2013-07-15 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/07/13 04:29, Sarah Lai Stirland wrote: Thanks. This is the kind of discussion and back and forth I was looking for ... I kind of figured this was the case, although I don't know of any actual examples of any of this happening. I know a lot

Re: [liberationtech] CJDNS hype

2013-07-15 Thread Michael Rogers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15/07/13 01:49, Mitar wrote: BTW, how do you propose to make Sybil nodes impossible? I don't. I am just making an argument, that maybe there is some way we (or I) don't yet know which would allow us to don't have to trust other nodes with

Re: [liberationtech] Secure Android guide?

2013-07-15 Thread Jon Camfield
Julian - this is an excellent and concise quickstart guide to Android security -- have you considered posting it into https://github.com/opensafermobile/materials ? Those materials which were posted on the http://safermobile.org/ site (which is now offline), but they're beginning to show their

Re: [liberationtech] Secure Android guide?

2013-07-15 Thread Karl Fogel
Jon Camfield j...@joncamfield.com writes: Julian - this is an excellent and concise quickstart guide to Android security -- have you considered posting it into https://github.com/opensafermobile/materials ? Those materials which were posted on the http://safermobile.org/ site (which is now

[liberationtech] Conference proceedings: E-Voting and Identify

2013-07-15 Thread Yosem Companys
E-Voting and Identify 4th International Conference, Vote-ID 2013, Guildford, UK, July 17-19, 2013. Proceedings http://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-642-39185-9/page/1-- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or

Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps

2013-07-15 Thread Scott Elcomb
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Jerzy Łogiewa jerz...@interia.eu wrote: * Research crowdfund sites Mozilla posted a related article recently that may be worth keeping in mind. A common element to the more successful campaigns I've seen: before starting on Kickstarter or Indiegogo they're

Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps

2013-07-15 Thread John Love
I think it's important that we distinguish between User Interface and User EXPERIENCE. The less effort it takes for the user to accomplish the task the better, and IMHO a thoughtful UX helps more here than a shiny UI , though a good UI is a vital component of good UX. Jerzy Łogiewa wrote: Okay

Re: [liberationtech] Bring some UX/UI help to open secure apps

2013-07-15 Thread Michael Oren
I am a UX person (more heavily on the research end than the design end, although I've done both). I'm not sure I can commit to working on this, but I'm also teaching an HCI course in the Fall and can present something to the students as an option for their projects. It's an introductory course

Re: [liberationtech] Surespot? Re: Feedback on Threema - Seriously secure mobile messaging.

2013-07-15 Thread Michael Carbone
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 GitHub here: https://github.com/surespot, includes client and server software. Would be interested in hearing folks' thoughts on it. Dev is @adam2fours, we ought to invite him to the conversation if he isn't on libtech. On 07/15/2013 06:41 AM,

Re: [liberationtech] Heml.is - The Beautiful Secure Messenger

2013-07-15 Thread Axel Simon
In TextSecure, the password unlocks the local db of encrypted SMS messages. Lose the password, lose the messages. Also, the point of TextSecure is that it uses text (SMS) messages as a transport, which often work when Internet access (or even plain phone calls) do(es)n't. axel Wasabee

Re: [liberationtech] CJDNS hype

2013-07-15 Thread Caleb James DeLisle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/15/2013 04:52 PM, Michael Rogers wrote: On 15/07/13 01:49, Mitar wrote: BTW, how do you propose to make Sybil nodes impossible? I don't. I am just making an argument, that maybe there is some way we (or I) don't yet know which would

Re: [liberationtech] Surespot? Re: Feedback on Threema - Seriously secure mobile messaging.

2013-07-15 Thread Nathan of Guardian
On 07/15/2013 06:41 AM, Moritz Bartl wrote: Surespot looks like an open source alternative: https://www.surespot.me/ https://www.surespot.me/documents/how_surespot_works.html Yes, I just discovered this myself. Looks interesting at first glance. Seems much more promising than other apps who

Re: [liberationtech] Secure Android guide?

2013-07-15 Thread Nathan of Guardian
On 07/13/2013 10:30 AM, Julian Oliver wrote: You can install CyanogenMod - and not install the Google suite - for a pleasant and largely Google-free experience. To be safer, don't install a nightly build. We have a guide that is a bit out of date, and I am working on an update. In the

Re: [liberationtech] Secure Android guide?

2013-07-15 Thread Nathan of Guardian
On 07/15/2013 03:04 PM, Cooper Quintin wrote: I gave a talk a while ago on pragmatic smartphone security. The video can be found here: http://vimeo.com/46044290 And more up to date slides can be found here: https://github.com/cooperq/spiders This is a great talk - highly recommended! -- Too

Re: [liberationtech] Surespot? Re: Feedback on Threema - Seriously secure mobile messaging.

2013-07-15 Thread Pavol Luptak
I like Surespot (and also TextSecure), but it runs on Android platform only. If I want to communicate with iPhone users in a secure way, I am forced to use Threema which is available on both platforms (iOS and Android). Is there any multiplatform opensource end-to-end secure alternative?

Re: [liberationtech] Surespot? Re: Feedback on Threema - Seriously secure mobile messaging.

2013-07-15 Thread Nathan of Guardian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/15/2013 05:00 PM, Pavol Luptak wrote: Of course, I can use Jabber+OTR, but I think there is even no opensource alternative of Jabber+OTR client on iOS platform yet. ChatSecure! chatsecure.org https://github.com/ChatSecure

Re: [liberationtech] Surespot? Re: Feedback on Threema - Seriously secure mobile messaging.

2013-07-15 Thread Pavol Luptak
Thanks guys for info! Pavol On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 05:04:25PM -0400, Nathan of Guardian wrote: On 07/15/2013 05:00 PM, Pavol Luptak wrote: Of course, I can use Jabber+OTR, but I think there is even no opensource alternative of Jabber+OTR client on iOS platform yet. ChatSecure!

[liberationtech] Autocorrect metadata

2013-07-15 Thread Mike H. Miller
What kind of metadata is harvestable from common autocorrect functions of devices and applications? Is there much literature on this? Miller -- Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at

Re: [liberationtech] Surespot? Re: Feedback on Threema - Seriously secure mobile messaging.

2013-07-15 Thread Karl Fogel
Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net writes: Surespot looks like an open source alternative: https://www.surespot.me/ https://www.surespot.me/documents/how_surespot_works.html surespot's code may be excellent (I haven't looked at it), but their front page at https://surespot.me/ makes a promise it

Re: [liberationtech] Conference proceedings: E-Voting and Identify

2013-07-15 Thread Ben Laurie
Why would I want to give Springer money for their old rope? On 15 July 2013 17:34, Yosem Companys compa...@stanford.edu wrote: E-Voting and Identify 4th International Conference, Vote-ID 2013, Guildford, UK, July 17-19, 2013. Proceedings

Re: [liberationtech] Surespot? Re: Feedback on Threema - Seriously secure mobile messaging.

2013-07-15 Thread Pavol Luptak
But there is a strong disadvantage of Jabber+OTR compared to Threema (and probably Heml.is): Jabber+OTR needs a running client on both sides (two-way interactive communication) - offline messages are not supported by Jabber+OTR ( offline messages are supported by XMPP, but not with OTR ). But

Re: [liberationtech] WeChat

2013-07-15 Thread Paul Holden
On 13-07-14 23:29:03, Sarah Lai Stirland sa...@personaldemocracy.com wrote: Thanks. This is the kind of discussion and back and forth I was looking for ... I kind of figured this was the case, although I don't know of any actual examples of any of this happening. I know a lot of Chinese people

[liberationtech] Mapping Sea Levels

2013-07-15 Thread Yosem Companys
Does anyone know of any maps that have been drawn up showing what the SF bay area coastline will look like as a result of global warming? Or do you know of anyone who might know the answer to this question? I'm looking for a map that changes contingent on the selected number of feet of higher sea

Re: [liberationtech] [cfabrigade] Mapping Sea Levels

2013-07-15 Thread David Riordan
I can think of a few examples, notably Surging Seas ( http://sealevel.climatecentral.org) and this sweet NYT interactive ( http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/11/24/opinion/sunday/what-could-disappear.html ) On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Yosem Companys ycompa...@gmail.com wrote: Does

Re: [liberationtech] [geoweb-r] Mapping Sea Levels

2013-07-15 Thread Eric Wolf
http://cegis.usgs.gov/sea_level_rise.html -=--=---===---=--=-=--=---==---=--=-=- Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Yosem Companys ycompa...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know of any maps that have been drawn up showing what the

Re: [liberationtech] Surespot? Re: Feedback on Threema - Seriously secure mobile messaging.

2013-07-15 Thread Nathan of Guardian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/15/2013 05:55 PM, Pavol Luptak wrote: Any idea how to have offline secure messaging (when Jabber+OTR is not possible to use)? Gibberbot already partially implements this, and we are working with ChatSecure and others to move forward with a

Re: [liberationtech] [cfabrigade] Mapping Sea Levels

2013-07-15 Thread Rebekah Monson
Check out http://csc.noaa.gov/digitalcoast/tools/slrviewer -r rebekahmonson.com Q: Why is this email five sentences or less? A: http://five.sentenc.es On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:03 PM, Yosem Companys ycompa...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know of

Re: [liberationtech] [cfabrigade] Mapping Sea Levels

2013-07-15 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
BTW, If you haven't read Kim Stanley Robinson, who has written extensively on the more or less immediate effects of the our climate catastrophe, you might find his work interesting, especially his latest. louis On 15 July 2013 21:41, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: And

Re: [liberationtech] WC3 and DRM

2013-07-15 Thread Catherine Roy
As a member of the HTML working group and the Restricted Media community group, my experience is that discussions within these groups surrounding the EME draft have been extremely frustrating. The same scenario as with Jeff Jaffe's blog post has happened there. The whole thing has been rather

Re: [liberationtech] [cfabrigade] Mapping Sea Levels

2013-07-15 Thread Alan McConchie
Here are some maps of San Francisco only, made by local cartographers Brian Stokle and Burrito Justice. http://urbanlifesigns.com/2012/03/when-floods-come-to-san-francisco.html http://urbanlifesigns.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-streets-of-flooded-san-francisco.html

Re: [liberationtech] [serval-project-dev] Re: Unique Opportunity: Input to CEOs of Smartphone Manufacturers

2013-07-15 Thread Paul Gardner-Stephen
Hello all, Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:24:27 +0200 From: Eduardo Robles Elvira edu...@wadobo.com To: liberationtech liberationtech@lists.stanford.edu Subject: Re: [liberationtech] Unique Opportunity: Input to CEOs of Smartphone Manufacturers Reply-To: liberationtech

Re: [liberationtech] WC3 and DRM

2013-07-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 07/15/2013 11:45 PM, Catherine Roy wrote: As a member of the HTML working group and the Restricted Media community group, my experience is that discussions within these groups surrounding the EME draft have been extremely frustrating. The same scenario as with Jeff Jaffe's blog post has