dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-09-08 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
I have some old issues of the LDC Newsletter. I'll go back and check. But I'm certain Poole was on the board. And Ravenal wrote that pro-Defense Libertarian book in 1985. Spoke to Dunn a few times. Seemed like quite a decent level-headed guy. Too bad you are bashing him. --- In

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-09-08 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
You are 100% correct. But the Liberal media and their allies in the nutty Anti-War wing of the libertarian movement would like to just gloss over that pesky little fact. --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Deus Ex Machina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didnt sadaam plot to assasinate Bush snr?

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-09-08 Thread Paul
Who cares if they murdered someone in Iraq? That has nothing to do with America and doesn't endanger America. I wouldn't care if Saddam and his sons, raped women, got them pregnant, cut them open, took the fetus, boiled it and ate it on television. That wouldn't be a valid reason or provocation

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-09-06 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Saddam Hussein through his henchmen attacked the United States, brutally right in the Heartland of America in 1995 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Perhaps you heard of it? 183 innocent Americans died. But Clinton and Janet Reno covered it up and pinned it on some ex- Army schmuck with a broken

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-09-01 Thread steven linnabary
- Original Message - From: Deus Ex Machina [EMAIL PROTECTED] argument by attrition. you cant win you get blamed for putting sadaam in power then you get blamed for taking him down. next youll blame the US for inflicting democracy on iraq. Vic Remember President Diem. PEACE Steven

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
Whether or not they tune in to MTV or like our culture is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks or any other attacks by Bin Laden or Al Queda. --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So Paul, then I guess you're saying that Bin

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
PROTECTED] To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:23 PM Subject: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul America will continue being a target as long as we have MTV, Rock Music, Sexy Blondes, Desperate Housewives, Loud Mouth Comedians

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
Likewise, whether we support Israel, or have our troops stationed in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain or Kuwait is irrelevant too. It has nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks by Bin Laden or Al Queda. It's not our foreign policy Stupid, it's our culture. You think Theo van Gogh's views on foreign

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Eric Dondero Rittberg
How do you figure? I'm a Deist/Agnostic who despised Christianity. And I'm gung ho Pro-War. Leonard Peikopf of the Ayn Rand Institute is a flaming Atheist and he and the Randians are fanatically anti-Muslim and Pro-War. Christopher Hitchens is also an Atheist and he too is fanatically

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Deus Ex Machina
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whether or not they tune in to MTV or like our culture is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks or any other attacks by Bin Laden or Al Queda. well it has everything to do with. have you actually done any research or is this just your guess? Vic

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread David Macko
backfire on all Christians, a most regrettable result. For life and liberty, David Macko - Original Message - From: Deus Ex Machina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 7:10 PM Subject: Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
It is our foreign policy, and only an idiot would claim otherwise. Only a brainless, nationalistic, jingoistic, dickhead would claim the 9/11 attack had anything to do with something other than America's foreign policy. Not one person in Al Queda or any other group has attacked America because

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
True, my agreeing to something doesn't mean it's connected to reality. The fact that what I'm saying is completely truthful and associated directly to reality does mean it's connected to reality. There are absolutely NO actual libertarians who support the war in Iraq. Supporting the war in Iraq

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Paul
It's a fact. I realize you're not too familiar with facts since you seem to base most of the garbage you spew from conspiracy theories, and anarchist stupidity. The FACT is we were attacked because millions of people in the middle-east have died as a result of our meddling in their affairs,

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread steven linnabary
- Original Message - From: Eric Dondero Rittberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] America will continue being a target as long as we have MTV, Rock Music, Sexy Blondes, Desperate Housewives, Loud Mouth Comedians and HBO. Read my lips Paul... IT HAS VERY FUCKING LITTLE TO DO WITH OUR FOREIGN

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-31 Thread Deus Ex Machina
Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are absolutely NO actual libertarians who support the war in Iraq. Supporting the war in Iraq automatically disqualifies you. its a tautology. its in fact not related to reality. sorry. Vic Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-30 Thread Paul
I've got news for you. The American people are in far more danger from Christian fundamentalists, than Muslim extremists. I say we worry about them first and don't waste our time on those in the middle-east. If we stop sending money, troops, and weapons, and stop propping up dictatorships, and

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-30 Thread Paul
: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul I've got news for you. The American people are in far more danger from Christian fundamentalists, than Muslim extremists. I say we worry about them first and don't waste our time on those in the middle-east. If we stop sending

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-30 Thread Marlon Machado
Eric Dondero Rittberg wrote: America will continue being a target as long as we have MTV, Rock Music, Sexy Blondes, Desperate Housewives, Loud Mouth Comedians and HBO. Read my lips Paul... IT HAS VERY FUCKING LITTLE TO DO WITH OUR FOREIGN POLICY AND EVERYTHING TO DO WITH OUR

dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-29 Thread Paul
America will continue being a target for as long as we continue our interventionist foreign policy, and take sides in every dispute. That will happen regardless of whether or not we leave Iraq and stop this entirely unconstitutional war in Iraq. --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, Deus Ex

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-29 Thread Deus Ex Machina
do you honestly beleive jihado facsist are going to stop even if the US did not have an interventionist policy? I dont. until there is a global caliphet and we all bow to meca they will not end the current war. any backing off or weakness will just enbolden them. Vic Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dumb question Re: [Libertarian] Re: Neoconned by Ron Paul

2005-08-29 Thread steven linnabary
- Original Message - From: Deus Ex Machina [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is not a single actual libertarian on the face of the earth who supports the war in Iraq without exception. is there a single person here who think if the US pulls out of iraq that the jihado facsist will stop