Re: Change of line-width in docs

2009-09-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:20 PM On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 09:34:35AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:00 AM It was not deliberate to change the docs lnie-width. I that case I'd like to change it back. No

Re: Change of line-width in docs

2009-09-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 09:14:48AM +0100, Trevor Daniels wrote: Graham Percival wrote Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:20 PM It appears to be a side effect of some other change to lilypond-book, which I suspect now picks up 'smallbook' rather than 'A4' for ly fragments. It -is- due to

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-13 Thread Michael Käppler
Sorry, silly me. :) I think we're nearly there. I'm just about to do a regtest check just to be sure. Just a few remaining nitpicks: - trailing spaces - long lines That should be fixed now. Is there a default for maximum line length? Regards, Michael From

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-13 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/13/09 4:41 AM, Michael Käppler xmichae...@web.de wrote: Sorry, silly me. :) I think we're nearly there. I'm just about to do a regtest check just to be sure. Just a few remaining nitpicks: - trailing spaces - long lines That should be fixed now. Is there a default

Re: Switching to Waf instead of SCons?

2009-09-13 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op zaterdag 12-09-2009 om 09:27 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef John Mandereau: Le samedi 12 septembre 2009 à 02:54 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : I now have a core2 quad with 4 gigs at my desk. Unfortunately the building is locked over the weekend, but on Monday I can seriously tackle

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009 à 06:45 -0600, Carl Sorensen a écrit : 80 characters maximum; I generally try to keep the lines about 70 characters. FWIW in Python code it's often hard to keep lines below 80 characters, so I try to keep them around 80 characters and require them to be less than

Re: Change of line-width in docs

2009-09-13 Thread John Mandereau
Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009 à 09:44 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : Is lilypond-book affected by the macro expansions? I assumed it was, but perhaps not. Here, let's do a quick test. Add an @afourpaper to one of the manuals, but not the others. Wait a day, then see how they both

Re: Change of line-width in docs

2009-09-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 03:44:00PM +0200, John Mandereau wrote: Le dimanche 13 septembre 2009 à 09:44 +0100, Graham Percival a écrit : Here, let's do a quick test. Add an @afourpaper to one of the manuals, but not the others. Wait a day, then see how they both look on kainhofer. This

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-13 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi Neil, There are some subtle spacing changes in the docs, but no breakages: quite often the line width is slightly shorter, resulting in tighter spacing (see the PNG for expressive-headword.ly attached, which is eleven pixels shorter than the current example on kainhofer.com). now I know

[PATCH] Fix netpm compilation in GUB

2009-09-13 Thread John Mandereau
Hi Jan, In my current attempt to build LilyPond with GUB, I hit a name clash in netpbm, patch attached. I hate languages without namespaces or equivalent concept :-) Best, John From 030efb393486e5717e74dc91b9b145020ab7b014 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: John Mandereau john.mander...@gmail.com

Re: [PATCH] Fix netpm compilation in GUB

2009-09-13 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op zondag 13-09-2009 om 16:33 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef John Mandereau: Hi John, In my current attempt to build LilyPond with GUB, I hit a name clash in netpbm, patch attached. I hate languages without namespaces or equivalent concept :-) Applied. Thanks! Jan. --

Re: The \\ construct for simultaneous voices

2009-09-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message blu149-w35f4018afa3162e0a4ceba94...@phx.gbl, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes Hi all, \\ is quite more convenient than explicit voices and thus an important idiom that makes Lilypond friendlier to the user. Yes, but as previously discussed, the confusion it

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-13 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/13 Michael Käppler xmichae...@web.de: That should be fixed now. Thanks, it's applied. Is there a default for maximum line length? I tend to follow Carl's suggestion for 80 columns, but as John's pointed out, sometimes it's awkward to keep within this limit. Regards, Neil

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-13 Thread Neil Puttock
2009/9/13 Michael Käppler xmichae...@web.de: now I know what's the reason. The attempt I made with line-width-cropping doesn't really work, since if there are several \paper blocks line-width-cropping affects all and breaks the other settings. Ah, I see. Apart from this, the only other

Re: The \\ construct for simultaneous voices

2009-09-13 Thread James E. Bailey
On 13.09.2009, at 17:59, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: Using partcombine, I think it's doing its job properly. But the result is a mass of a2, Solo I, Solo II which I don't want. I'd like both parts printed in full, with only a2 where they're both playing the same. I haven't tried it, but

Re: Change of line-width in docs

2009-09-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote Sunday, September 13, 2009 2:49 PM That said, I could have done the same mistake as you did a week ago by moving @afourpaper to macros.itexi :-P Ok, I'll move them out. Thanks Graham - that will fix it. I'd have spotted this sooner if I'd looked at learning.tely :(

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Neil Puttock wrote Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:45 PM 2009/9/13 Michael Käppler xmichae...@web.de: Btw. I don't understand, why lilypond-book inserts no line-width value when called with fragment. What is the reason for this behaviour? I'm not sure, to be honest. I think

Re: Unsecure assoc calls

2009-09-13 Thread Michael Käppler
Hi Neil, Thanks, it's applied. Great. The next step is attached. Can you please run a regtest? Regards, Michael From 2aa0ede53ec2b8e03f47c3b0f525cfbc636c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?utf-8?q?Michael=20K=C3=A4ppler?= xmichae...@web.de Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:11:36 +0200 Subject:

Re: [PATCH] New margin handling - final version (updated)

2009-09-13 Thread Michael Käppler
I think lilypond-book inserts line-width only when 'quote' or 'lilyquote' is specified (or 'linewidth' itself, of course). I don't think so. Look at lilypond-book.py:951. This value preserves if no option is set. You can verify this by running this small tex file, if you want:

Re: Copyright/licensing action plan + a sample [PATCH]

2009-09-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 4aac29f2.1000...@webdrake.net, Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes I'm then entering these details into a Google Docs spreadsheet (which I'll share with anyone who requests it). The same spreadsheet also contains a complete list of contributors (from Francisco's

Re: The \\ construct for simultaneous voices

2009-09-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message f12b2646-e12b-47ae-94aa-3e52294d7...@googlemail.com, James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com writes On 13.09.2009, at 17:59, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: Using partcombine, I think it's doing its job properly. But the result is a mass of a2, Solo I, Solo II which I don't want.

Re: The \\ construct for simultaneous voices

2009-09-13 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Sonntag, 13. September 2009 23:22:04 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman: If it hasn't been done, it sounds like it would be a good idea to try and combine the voice combining and part combining code with switches to say how much should be

Re: Copyright/licensing action plan + a sample [PATCH]

2009-09-13 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Anthony W. Youngman wrote: I think you don't understand copyright properly ... DON'T track whether they support switching the licence. Because if they do, they will (presumably already) have switched the licence on their contributions. ... but we have no records of that switch, because

Re: The \\ construct for simultaneous voices

2009-09-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 200909140024.50780.reinh...@kainhofer.com, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes Am Sonntag, 13. September 2009 23:22:04 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman: If it hasn't been done, it sounds like it would be a good idea to try and combine the voice combining and part combining

Re: Copyright/licensing action plan + a sample [PATCH]

2009-09-13 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 14. September 2009 00:00:28 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman: DON'T track whether they support switching the licence. Because if they do, they will (presumably already) have switched the licence on their contributions. I don't think so. Many

Re: Copyright/licensing action plan + a sample [PATCH]

2009-09-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 4aad7567.5060...@webdrake.net, Joseph Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net writes Thanks nevertheless for your useful suggestions -- I hope this email clears up what I do and don't intend. I'll update the licensing part of the spreadsheet accordingly. Sounds good. Best wishes,

Re: The \\ construct for simultaneous voices

2009-09-13 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Reinhold, Wol, et al: I've been thinking about implementing something like that myself (basically controlling combined/split voices via context properties, overriding the bad choices the partcombiner makes). What say we make a serious effort at rewriting the partcombiner from the

Re: The \\ construct for simultaneous voices

2009-09-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message blu0-smtp76a410ac3d24e8496e9aaa94...@phx.gbl, Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca writes Hi Reinhold, Wol, et al: I've been thinking about implementing something like that myself (basically controlling combined/split voices via context properties, overriding the bad

Re: Copyright/licensing action plan + a sample [PATCH]

2009-09-13 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 200909140059.35325.reinh...@kainhofer.com, Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com writes Am Montag, 14. September 2009 00:00:28 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman: DON'T track whether they support switching the licence. Because if they do, they will (presumably already) have switched the

Re: Copyright/licensing action plan + a sample [PATCH]

2009-09-13 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Anthony W. Youngman lilyp...@thewolery.demon.co.uk wrote: So your idea is basically postponing the problem to a time, where we might not be able to solve it properly any more? Nope. My idea is basically saying let's face reality. Some people will never agree

Re: Copyright/licensing action plan + a sample [PATCH]

2009-09-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 09:36:47PM -0300, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: Please don't speak for me. I am not opposed to GPL v3, but I don't want to be involved in any of the legal (or laymen-people-interpreting-law) and bikeshedding discussions that this 'upgrade' has to involve. Ie. please reach