Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-21 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: Hope they get their act together eventually, since this is definitely nice promotion material. /me too; please update when there's a website with info available. I haven't seen anything besides https://twitter.com/#!/kyojindo/status/200967005380165633 And now

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
m...@mikesolomon.org From: Thierry Coduys thierry.cod...@le-hub.org The jury wishes to congratulate you on your LilyPond open source software, that won the First Prize at the LoMus 2012 contest. A cheque or bank transfer of 2000 € will be sent to you by the AFIM w00t! Mazal

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-13 Thread Trevor Bača
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 6:17 AM, m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.orgwrote: Begin forwarded message: *From: *Thierry Coduys thierry.cod...@le-hub.org *Subject: **LoMus 2012* *Date: *12 mai 2012 12:15:03 HAEC *To: *m...@mikesolomon.org Dear Mike, The jury wishes to congratulate you

Fwd: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
Begin forwarded message: From: Thierry Coduys thierry.cod...@le-hub.org Subject: LoMus 2012 Date: 12 mai 2012 12:15:03 HAEC To: m...@mikesolomon.org Dear Mike, The jury wishes to congratulate you on your LilyPond open source software, that won the First Prize at the LoMus 2012 contest

Re: Fwd: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread David Kastrup
m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org writes: Begin forwarded message: From: Thierry Coduys thierry.cod...@le-hub.org Subject: LoMus 2012 Date: 12 mai 2012 12:15:03 HAEC To: m...@mikesolomon.org Dear Mike, The jury wishes

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Mike, Congratulations! (To everyone!!) Best regards, Kieren. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 12 mai 2012, at 12:37, David Kastrup wrote: m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org writes: Begin forwarded message: From: Thierry Coduys thierry.cod...@le-hub.org Subject: LoMus 2012 Date: 12 mai 2012 12:15:03 HAEC To: m...@mikesolomon.org Dear Mike

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread David Kastrup
m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes: I wouldn't mind using it to finish my skyline work! That'll easily be five weeks of my life (around 1 000 €), and it'd allow me to focus on something other than fundraising... Well, the agreement was whoever submits and collects, decides

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 12 mai 2012, at 13:00, David Kastrup wrote: m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes: I wouldn't mind using it to finish my skyline work! That'll easily be five weeks of my life (around 1 000 €), and it'd allow me to focus on something other than fundraising... Well, the

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread David Kastrup
m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes: On 12 mai 2012, at 13:00, David Kastrup wrote: m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes: I wouldn't mind using it to finish my skyline work! That'll easily be five weeks of my life (around 1 000 €), and it'd allow me to focus

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM, m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I wouldn't mind using it to finish my skyline work!  That'll easily be five weeks of my life (around 1 000 €), and it'd allow me to focus on something other than fundraising... I'm ok with this, too! Let's

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
The jury wishes to congratulate you on your LilyPond open source software, that won the First Prize at the LoMus 2012 contest. Great! Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 12 mai 2012, at 14:38, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:51 PM, m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I wouldn't mind using it to finish my skyline work! That'll easily be five weeks of my life (around 1 000 €), and it'd allow me to focus on something other

Re: Fwd: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Make a ponding of the award, and point to the contest site (if any) for the details.  Like the awarded sum.  I'd find it weird to flash numbers on our main website. I think this qualifies for a news item - after all, it's

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 12 mai 2012, at 14:53, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Make a ponding of the award, and point to the contest site (if any) for the details. Like the awarded sum. I'd find it weird to flash numbers on our main website. I think

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/12/12 4:37 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: m...@mikesolomon.org m...@mikesolomon.org writes: w00t! Mazal tov to everyone! Graham's worst fears... If I remember correctly, we had two applications for the Google Summer of Code, and only one has been accepted under the GNU

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
David Kastrup writes: Well, I was going to send news of it around, but as of now, there is nothing to be seen yet: URL:http://concours.afim-asso.org/home.php. Hope they get their act together eventually, since this is definitely nice promotion material. /me too; please update when there's a

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
prize, and speculating about its mindshare, I have the suspicion that LilyPond has more or less been the proverbial 500lb Gorilla in the contest. This is not untrue, but I think somebody submit PD to LoMuS a few years back, so it really depends. Cheers, MS

Re: Fwd: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Janek Warchoł writes: I think this qualifies for a news item - after all, it's *LilyPond* who won. Graham? Submit to lwn.net etc; when there's something to point at. Jan -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen jann...@gnu.org | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT http://JoyofSource.com | Avatar®

Re: Fwd: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 02:53:58PM +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Make a ponding of the award, and point to the contest site (if any) for the details.  Like the awarded sum.  I'd find it weird to flash numbers on our main

Re: LoMus 2012

2012-05-12 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:02 AM, m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I wouldn't mind using it to finish my skyline work!  That'll easily be five weeks of my life (around 1 000 €), and it'd allow me to focus on something other than fundraising... Well, the agreement was whoever

LoMus

2012-04-30 Thread m...@mikesolomon.org
Hey all, I've received a couple e-mails from colleagues and one nudge from Valentin about: http://concours.afim-asso.org/ I've been reticent about applying because the development community is rather diffuse and there isn't any good way to accept the prize money if we win. However, after

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
competitions in the future. *sigh* I'll formulate my question differently. If anyone on the development team sends me an e-mail saying Do not submit LilyPond to LoMuS, I won't submit LilyPond to LoMuS. So... you *don't* want to set a precedent; you just want a quick answer about

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
that LilyPond can apply to other software competitions in the future. *sigh* I'll formulate my question differently. If anyone on the development team sends me an e-mail saying Do not submit LilyPond to LoMuS, I won't submit LilyPond to LoMuS. So... you *don't* want to set a precedent

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread Graham Percival
later. I *do* want this to work so well that it sets a solid precedent, If this is going to set a precedent, then I will say Do not submit LilyPond to LoMuS. I'm willing to go along with the current consensus only if there is the understanding that it does *not* set a precedent. I get

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
consensus is go ahead and we'll figure it out later. I *do* want this to work so well that it sets a solid precedent, If this is going to set a precedent, then I will say Do not submit LilyPond to LoMuS. I'm willing to go along with the current consensus only if there is the understanding

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread Janek Warchoł
this specific case?  I guess the general consensus is go ahead and we'll figure it out later. I *do* want this to work so well that it sets a solid precedent, If this is going to set a precedent, then I will say Do not submit LilyPond to LoMuS.  I'm willing to go along with the current consensus

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: Huh? I get $5000 (of which i'll spend quite a lot on Lily development, either directly or indirectly), and John Marchesi, GNU admin, gets $500 and gives it to whomever he decides - in our case most probably FSF. Depends on whether he gets a

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:14 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: Huh?  I get $5000 (of which i'll spend quite a lot on Lily development, either directly or indirectly), and John Marchesi, GNU admin, gets $500 and gives it to whomever he decides

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-28 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 3:14 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: So don't think of spending the $5000 on LilyPond: spend your time. That's what this is supposed to enable. Of course. They give me money to enable me spending time on LilyPond

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 07:09:39AM +0200, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: I'd be good to set a precedent for this now so that LilyPond can apply to other software competitions in the future. *sigh* I'll rehash an old email. I know that some of us would like to get paid for lilypond work.

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
two different (I think) responses from Werner and Graham. I'll formulate my question differently. If anyone on the development team sends me an e-mail saying Do not submit LilyPond to LoMuS, I won't submit LilyPond to LoMuS. We're all the authors of the program, so if there is a person

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Werner LEMBERG wrote Friday, April 27, 2012 6:29 AM I've received a couple e-mails from colleagues and one nudge from Valentin about: http://concours.afim-asso.org/ Aah, very nice! Yes, participating in this contest would be a good thing; and thanks for your offer to writing up the

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On 27 avr. 2012, at 09:33, Trevor Daniels wrote: Werner LEMBERG wrote Friday, April 27, 2012 6:29 AM I've received a couple e-mails from colleagues and one nudge from Valentin about: http://concours.afim-asso.org/ Aah, very nice! Yes, participating in this contest would be a good thing;

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
m...@apollinemike.com wrote Friday, April 27, 2012 8:39 AM On 27 avr. 2012, at 09:33, Trevor Daniels wrote: But it seems the closing date has passed - wasn't it 25 April? It's extended till the 29th. Ah, good! If they needed to do that the chance of winning is somewhat increased :)

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
m...@apollinemike.com m...@apollinemike.com writes: Hey all, I've received a couple e-mails from colleagues and one nudge from Valentin about: http://concours.afim-asso.org/ I've been reticent about applying because the development community is rather diffuse and there isn't any good way

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: 3) it's not going to be enough. Companies and government grants are where the real money for supporting programmers comes from; hiring just one person from individual donations would require far more users than we have. Not enough is better

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
On 27/04/2012 07:09, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: Hey all, I've received a couple e-mails from colleagues and one nudge from Valentin about: http://concours.afim-asso.org/ I've been reticent about applying because the development community is rather diffuse and there isn't any good way to

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
The form says: * In case of a collective work, I have been appointed to represent my colleagues. As a core contributor to LilyPond I hereby nominate Mike Solomon to represent the LilyPond project. Let's worry about what to do with money if and when we win. On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:09 AM,

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes: The form says: * In case of a collective work, I have been appointed to represent my colleagues. As a core contributor to LilyPond I hereby nominate Mike Solomon to represent the LilyPond project. Let's worry about what to do with money if and

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread Łukasz Czerwiński
Musical contest? Great! :) +1 On 27 April 2012 07:29, Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org wrote: I suggest that *you* are the person receiving the money, acting as a representative and contact person for this contest. In due course it is up to you how to distribute the money within the lilypond

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-27 Thread Łukasz Czerwiński
On 27 April 2012 08:07, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: *sigh* I'll rehash an old email. I know that some of us would like to get paid for lilypond work. But I'm leery of jumping into this topic for a few reasons: 1) lilypond survives because of volunteer work. I think

LoMuS

2012-04-26 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
Hey all, I've received a couple e-mails from colleagues and one nudge from Valentin about: http://concours.afim-asso.org/ I've been reticent about applying because the development community is rather diffuse and there isn't any good way to accept the prize money if we win. However, after

Re: LoMuS

2012-04-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
I've received a couple e-mails from colleagues and one nudge from Valentin about: http://concours.afim-asso.org/ Aah, very nice! Yes, participating in this contest would be a good thing; and thanks for your offer to writing up the application. 1) Use it internally on projects (i.e. we'd