Re: Hiding the staff generates weird straight line

2016-11-16 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Krzysztof, ... \once\omit Staff.BarLine \startStaff %% or even: \bar "" \startStaff ... should solve your problem. But I don' t see anything wrong here. \stopStaff does not remove a full system. Maybe you are looking for: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=307 HTH, Pierre PS. Please add the

Re: Override SystemStartSquare width?

2016-11-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-11-17 6:49 GMT+01:00 Nathan Ho : > On 2016-11-16 16:16, dtsmarin wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> How can I extend the square bracket to fill the gap? (see attached image) >> > > > Hi Dmitris, > > Bad news.

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread David Pirotte
> We'll wait while you whip that right out and show that png file to us. > Remember, it is a poor carpenter who blames his tools. So you finally admit it: you are a poor carpenter pgpORFobQUwMQ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: Getting a new computer

2016-11-16 Thread David Wright
On Thu 17 Nov 2016 at 13:51:51 (+1100), Andrew Bernard wrote: > Well, that code does not compile and generates and error on 2.19.50, but it > gets very close to the final PDF. On my new system with an i7-6700 it takes > about 35 seconds, so I’d say of the order of 40 seconds. The only errors I

Re: Override SystemStartSquare width?

2016-11-16 Thread Nathan Ho
On 2016-11-16 16:16, dtsmarin wrote: Hello, How can I extend the square bracket to fill the gap? (see attached image) Hi Dmitris, Bad news. Looks like SystemStartSquare is hardcoded at 0.8 staff spaces (source:

Re: your mail

2016-11-16 Thread David Wright
On Wed 16 Nov 2016 at 20:11:48 (-0800), Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: > The parentheses are not needed in the tempo marking. > > \tempo Andante They're quotation marks, and they will be needed as soon as you have, for example, "Andante con moto". So I'd keep them even for single words. (Some

Re: Two different time signatures with different tuplets in 'em

2016-11-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
On Nov 16, 2016, at 11:58 PM, David Wright wrote: > I guess you have some problems which are far more serious than those > that arise when playing about with LilyPond or posting here. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! That made my night. Thanks for the chuckle, David. Best, Kieren.

Re: Two different time signatures with different tuplets in 'em

2016-11-16 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 Nov 2016 at 03:12:15 (-0700), mclaren wrote: > David Wright remarked: > > "What I can't understand is why you would want > to print out a score that is basically impossible to play, and is, in > any case, written in a notation that is debatably incapable of

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
On Nov 16, 2016, at 11:09 PM, mclaren wrote: > "You do realize, don't you, that if you had just asked for help creating > that music, Kieren would have helped you and taught you some of his coding > skills (and he IS really good, BTW). " > > Not likely. What I realize

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2016-11-16 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Thiago, The parentheses are not needed in the tempo marking. \tempo Andante Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

RE: Font problem

2016-11-16 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Thiago, I removed the “%” and everything looked correct. Mark From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Censi Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 6:50 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Font problem Hello. I am new to

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread mclaren
"You do realize, don't you, that if you had just asked for help creating that music, Kieren would have helped you and taught you some of his coding skills (and he IS really good, BTW). " Not likely. What I realize is that Kieren is good with photoshop. I'll bet he can show us an image of

Re: Getting a new computer

2016-11-16 Thread tyronicus
On a laptop, but just for comparison, it took 44 seconds on an i5-5200U processor. I have heard that cache size can make a difference if you are recompiling often. To check, I recompiled three more times and got 44 seconds each time. So my cache doesn't seem to make any difference (3MB). Memory

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
TL;DR On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:52 PM, mclaren wrote: > It's pretty clear Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread mclaren
It's pretty clear from the nature of the bugs that there was some internal rational integer calculation limit in lilypond. What's baffling is the way it's dealt with internally in lilypond. The procedure seems to be to do everything in 32 bit integers and then throw an error if that limit gets

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
mclaren, On 11/16/16 8:25 PM, "Kieren MacMillan" wrote: > > >Here¹s what I got out of Lilypond (no external applications of any sort) >in about four minutes of coding: > > >I could have tweaked the stem lengths to exactly match your sample, >flattened the tuplet brackets,

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi mclaren, > Great. Glad to hear it. Since you're a master virtuoso with lilypond, you > should no trouble entering the following photoshopped score fragment into > lilypond and compiling the score and getting a pnd or svg file out: […] > We'll wait while you whip that right out and show that

Re: (lilypond-windows.exe:6216): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

2016-11-16 Thread David Wright
On Thu 17 Nov 2016 at 02:56:01 (+), MING TSANG wrote: > Andrew,I have been using Chinese character in lyrics and there is no problem. > I only giving me trouble when I try to use Chinese characters in file > name.PDF , frecobaldi, lilypond all display Chinese characters without > problem.  

Re: (lilypond-windows.exe:6216): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

2016-11-16 Thread David Wright
On Thu 17 Nov 2016 at 01:35:36 (+), MING TSANG wrote: > David, > Thank you for the link.I forgot about it. it seems not the same to me. > previous:(lilypond.exe:1892): > Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text() > warning: no glyph for character U+FFFD in font

RE: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread mclaren
Mrotek claimed: `In support of your observation, "It is a poor carpenter who blames his tools."' Great. Glad to hear it. Since you're a master virtuoso with lilypond, you should no trouble entering the following photoshopped score fragment into lilypond and compiling the score and getting a pnd

Re: (lilypond-windows.exe:6216): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

2016-11-16 Thread MING TSANG
Andrew,I have been using Chinese character in lyrics and there is no problem. I only giving me trouble when I try to use Chinese characters in file name.PDF , frecobaldi, lilypond all display Chinese characters without problem.  I think it the postscript. I am not sure.Immanuel,Ming 

RE: Getting a new computer

2016-11-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Vaughan, Well, that code does not compile and generates and error on 2.19.50, but it gets very close to the final PDF. On my new system with an i7-6700 it takes about 35 seconds, so I’d say of the order of 40 seconds. I specified my new system that I built principally for lilypond,

Re: Getting a new computer

2016-11-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Vaughan, By way of a benchmark/comparison: my mid-2011 iMac compiles your file in 59s. Cheers, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___

Font problem

2016-11-16 Thread Thiago Censi
Hello. I am new to Lilypond. I am on Xubuntu 16.04 and installed the packages via the default repositories. I am having a problem with the fonts used in the score. I don't know if it is a Lilypond problem or a package missint or something else. I tried looking in the manual, Google and etc, but

RE: (lilypond-windows.exe:6216): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

2016-11-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Ming, Well Unicode FFFD is the ‘replacement character’ which is the question mark in a black diamond used when a character cannot be found in a font. You typically see this on web pages. May have something to do with your use of Chinese? Andrew From: lilypond-user

Re: (lilypond-windows.exe:6216): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

2016-11-16 Thread MING TSANG
David, Thank you for the link.I forgot about it. it seems not the same to me. previous:(lilypond.exe:1892): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()warning: no glyph for character U+FFFD in font `C:/Windows/fonts/times.ttf' current:(lilypond-windows.exe:8336):

Hiding the staff generates weird straight line

2016-11-16 Thread kmg
Hey, I tried for some time now to make my score as I want it, but I'm out of ideas. Issue: http://i.imgur.com/xXJ73J3.png - you can see the straight line at the end of the first system and the next one is properly showing my extra staff. However, this straight line seems to act as if there was

Re: openLilyLib

2016-11-16 Thread Noeck
Dear Urs, thanks for answering this long mail. I see much clearer now. > (And the fact that I didn't reply to your private email doesn't "mean" > anything. It's just that I didn't manage to do that yet (and after this > public reply I'll probably drop it anyway). No worries. That's perfectly

Questions about the edition-engraver

2016-11-16 Thread Noeck
Hi, some questions about the edition-engraver as implemented in https://github.com/openlilylib/edition-engraver The questions follow the example in https://github.com/openlilylib/edition-engraver/blob/master/example-1.ly If the question is easily tried out, be assured I did so and I rather mean:

Re: openLilyLib

2016-11-16 Thread Urs Liska
Hi Joram, Am 17.11.2016 um 00:02 schrieb Noeck: > Dear Urs, > > it was not my intention to blame you. I know you put a lot of effort in > it. I just wanted to mention what makes me keeping some distance to oll > at the moment in order to solve some of it. While I am not the right > person to

Re: openLilyLib

2016-11-16 Thread Noeck
Hi Urs, Am 17.11.2016 um 00:29 schrieb Urs Liska: > Apart from the fact that this should be renamed to > "edition-engraver/package.ily" it's not *you* as a user that will see > the direct benefit. The benefit is that "edition-engraver" is now a > tangible unit (a repo) that can have an explicit

Re: openLilyLib

2016-11-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 17.11.2016 um 00:24 schrieb Noeck: > ... I successfully used the edition-engraver writing: > > \include "edition-engraver/edition-engraver.ily" > > But I don't see the benefit of oll-core that way. Apart from the fact that this should be renamed to "edition-engraver/package.ily" it's not

Re: openLilyLib

2016-11-16 Thread Noeck
... I successfully used the edition-engraver writing: \include "edition-engraver/edition-engraver.ily" But I don't see the benefit of oll-core that way. What am I supposed to do? Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: (lilypond-windows.exe:6216): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

2016-11-16 Thread David Wright
On Wed 16 Nov 2016 at 21:38:45 (+), MING TSANG wrote: > Hi lilyponders, > I am running window 10 with lilypond v2.19.50 and frecobaldi 2.19.0 > 1. What is that mean? 2. Am I missing pango fonts?3. I search notation.pdf > 2.19.50 and cannot find a list of error message or warning +

Re: openLilyLib

2016-11-16 Thread Noeck
Dear Urs, it was not my intention to blame you. I know you put a lot of effort in it. I just wanted to mention what makes me keeping some distance to oll at the moment in order to solve some of it. While I am not the right person to boost this, I would like to take this reminder and look at

(lilypond-windows.exe:6216): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

2016-11-16 Thread MING TSANG
Hi lilyponders, I am running window 10 with lilypond v2.19.50 and frecobaldi 2.19.0 1. What is that mean? 2. Am I missing pango fonts?3. I search notation.pdf 2.19.50 and cannot find a list of error message or warning + explaination help appreciated.

Re: Fwd: Weird behaviour with TupletNumber.avoid-slur (beam disappears)

2016-11-16 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 16.11.2016 11:42, Risto Vääräniemi wrote: Shall I just forward this thread to lily-bug Yes, see . The gmane interface is defunct, though. Best, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Potential improvements to the homepage?

2016-11-16 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
Some comments in response to the most recent (but not quite actually recent) iteration of the perennial web site discussion. State of Translation Looking at the translated versions of the website, most of the content from the homepage isn't actually translated, but remains in English. Even

Re: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Noeck
This seems a bit related: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-auto/2014-04/msg00064.html And this: http://notat.io/viewtopic.php?t=170 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Brian Barker
At 19:23 16/11/2016 +0100, Joram Noeck wrote: Still, I would not over-interpret Behind Bars. If Gould states it explicitly: ok, but the examples are also done with some program, I guess. In case there is a detail she does not care enough, there can be cases where she accepts the program's

Re: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread tisimst
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Noeck [via Lilypond] < ml-node+s1069038n196717...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > My aesthetic feeling would like to centre-align them. > MuseScore 2.0.3 does this. I personally don't find the left-alignment bothersome and find that it gives more natural continuity to

Re: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Noeck
Hi, I think we had some discussion about this on this list in the last 5 (?) years. My aesthetic feeling would like to centre-align them. Still, I would not over-interpret Behind Bars. If Gould states it explicitly: ok, but the examples are also done with some program, I guess. In case there is

RE: Re:Advice about layout / page formatting

2016-11-16 Thread Jim Duke
Thanks for getting back with me to ensure all of my questions had been answered. I had tried the variables you mentioned and it was a real fight. What I ended up doing was take total control over system placement. The way I ended up working was to not put any explicit system or page breaks

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi David, > Stop right here. We don't expect people to be born with such skills I didn’t say I expected him to be born with the skill, did I? > so the question rather is whether the possibilities are reasonable > discoverable in the manual. And they are, at least to the point of the statement

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
On Nov 16, 2016, at 3:58 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > "Doesn't work with my score" is something completely different than "Lilypond > seems designed to prevent engraving barlines whenever they aren't required by > the score. This is bad program design” #BOOM Not sure mclaren

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
On Nov 16, 2016, at 5:56 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Actually I'm enjoying this. It's only that all this popcorn isn't > exactly contributing to health ;-) LOL +1 Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email:

Re: Odp: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread David Sumbler
On Wed, 2016-11-16 at 14:03 +0100, Karol Majewski wrote: > In traditional engraving note heads are aligned to their left. Take a > look at this excerpt from Monnlight Sonata by Henle Verlag. I've looked at my own copy of the same piece - different edition - and the notes are aligned just as you

RE: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
HI David, But if you want to override it: << { \once \override Voice.NoteColumn.force-hshift = #0.1 % value by trial and error d'4 b'2.\rest } \\ { b1 } >> Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

RE: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi David, I would have thought this is correct. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Odp: Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread Karol Majewski
In traditional engraving note heads are aligned to their left. Take a look at this excerpt from Monnlight Sonata by Henle Verlag. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Incorrect note alignment

2016-11-16 Thread David Sumbler
\version "2.19.48" \language "english" << { d'4 b'2.\rest }    \\    { b1 }  >>     The above bar occurs in a piece I have set in Lilypond and that I am currently correcting. The crotchet d in the upper voice and the semibreve b in the lower appear to be vertically aligned at their left edges,

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Am 16.11.2016 um 11:37 schrieb David Kastrup: >> And it's not like LilyPond takes it ill when being made fun of. So >> don't let yourself get infected with ill will. > > Actually I'm enjoying this. You have spent too much time in Switzerland. --

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.11.2016 um 11:37 schrieb David Kastrup: > And it's not like LilyPond takes it ill when being made fun of. So > don't let yourself get infected with ill will. Actually I'm enjoying this. It's only that all this popcorn isn't exactly contributing to health ;-)

Fwd: Weird behaviour with TupletNumber.avoid-slur (beam disappears)

2016-11-16 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
Hi Harm, Thanks for checking. I had a look at the file I am now porting to 2.19 and it seems it was made with 2.11.57. I attached an image showing how things were back in 2008/9. There the slur ends are on the same level. The effect was achieved with (old syntax shown): \once \override

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: >> But the long and the short of it is that LilyPond does have >> limitations in that area. That they are irrelevant to the vast >> majority of use cases people have for typesetting music does not mean >> that there is a point in discussing them away:

Re: highlight music / fingering

2016-11-16 Thread David Kastrup
Gianmaria Lari writes: >> >> > c4 \chordmode {f, f,} >> > e \chordmode {e, e,} >> > \partial 2 b \chordmode {e,} >> >> [graphics] >> >> If that input corresponds to the printed output you gave, I want to see >> the code producing the output. >> >> > No, it doesn't

Re: highlight music / fingering

2016-11-16 Thread Gianmaria Lari
Wow! That's great! We have to use carefully but with kids can be very interesting!!! Thank you! g. On 15 November 2016 at 17:49, Klaus Blum wrote: > Hi Gianmaria, > > I use highlighting a lot, and I prefer coloring things. > If you search the LSR for the term "colored",

Re: highlight music / fingering

2016-11-16 Thread Gianmaria Lari
> > My own inclination would be to use it as an educational tool, and try > to mark the score in a way that a musician might, eg a hand-drawn > circle. > > (Personally I prefer my *own* markings to convey some more useful > information, rather than just putting circles everywhere. I have > my own

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.11.2016 um 10:48 schrieb David Kastrup: > "we have seen only one case where LilyPond actually shows a limitation" > is disingenuous: this is a clear and well-known architectural limit of > the current code base's operation and it is by far not trivial to > overcome. What I was referring

Re: highlight music / fingering

2016-11-16 Thread Gianmaria Lari
> > > c4 \chordmode {f, f,} > > e \chordmode {e, e,} > > \partial 2 b \chordmode {e,} > > [graphics] > > If that input corresponds to the printed output you gave, I want to see > the code producing the output. > > No, it doesn't correspond. Have a look to this code and to attached images:

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > And it's totally clear that you're messing with things you're not up > to. That's what every LilyPond user is going to start with, and given the scope of the project, I doubt that there is anybody who could claim himself to be free of that even when

Re: segno/coda in lyrics

2016-11-16 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2016-11-15 um 13:51 schrieb Alexander Kobel : >> That works so far, but the signs are too big, and too low. I’d like them in >> captital height on the text line. >> The commented overrides don’t work – what’s wrong? > > the overrides apply to RehearsalMarks that are part

Re: Weird behaviour with TupletNumber.avoid-slur (beam disappears)

2016-11-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-11-16 8:30 GMT+01:00 Risto Vääräniemi : > David's example shows the same issue, I'm having. > > @Mark: > I'm writing choir music with soprano & alto on one staff and tenor & bass on > another. So, basically I need to force slurs & ties on the "outer side" of > each staff.

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread Urs Liska
Am 16.11.2016 um 07:29 schrieb mclaren: > Nice try, but so obvious I already tried it long ago -- remove the timing > translator and default barline engraver from the Score portion of the layout > and insert it in the Staff portion. Nope. Doesn't work with my score. "Doesn't work with my

Re: Solution to 7 over sqr(71) time against integer polyrhythms

2016-11-16 Thread David Kastrup
Kieren MacMillan writes: > mclaren, > >> Inserting \bar "|" in one staff draws lines through all the other staffs. >> There is no way to prevent this. It's a classic example of bad program >> design, and we all just have to live with it. > > > I have used Lilypond

Re: Rotating Score on one page

2016-11-16 Thread David Kastrup
mclaren writes: > Alternatively, you could just print that page as a PNG and put that score > page PNG into Photoshop or some other image editing software, rotate the > entire page 90 degrees, then select the individual instructions that you > want to remain unrotated