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Hello list,
For various tests we have created a group of new SLES10 guests. They all are
just one 3390-3 volume so they can be cloned vary fast. But for some reason
these machines sometimes switch the rootdisk, and therefore the entire
filesystem, to readonly. I have tried a remount but that
van Sleeuwen, Berry wrote:
Hello list,
For various tests we have created a group of new SLES10 guests. They all are
just one 3390-3 volume so they can be cloned vary fast.
If you use FLASHCOPY its fast regardless of DASD size.
But for some reason these machines sometimes switch the
Kinda makes one realize how long z/OS (or its ancestors) has been
around, doesn't it?
K
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Alan Cox
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:46 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was:
Hello Mark,
I meant fast in a way that the / is copied and then changes the hostname and IP
address. No other fancy things, just a default environment for our support
staff to play around with.
The cloning process is loosly based on the cloning scripts from redp4322. The
dasd is copied using
van Sleeuwen, Berry wrote:
Hello Mark,
I meant fast in a way that the / is copied and then changes the hostname and
IP address. No other fancy things, just a default environment for our support
staff to play around with.
The cloning process is loosly based on the cloning scripts from
Evans, Kevin R wrote:
Kinda makes one realize how long z/OS (or its ancestors) has been
around, doesn't it?
K
And those of us who have worked on it too ;-)
mark
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Hello Mark,
I'll have to look into the flashcopy process but have not taken the time for it
just yet.
I guess one thing that would be wrong then is that I copy from the live system.
So the source nlzlx920 is being copied from within the nlzlx920. But would that
introduce IO errors on the
van Sleeuwen, Berry wrote:
Hello Mark,
I'll have to look into the flashcopy process but have not taken the time for
it just yet.
I guess one thing that would be wrong then is that I copy from the live
system. So the source nlzlx920 is being copied from within the nlzlx920. But
would
I guess one thing that would be wrong then is that I copy from the live
system.
I think that's your problem. You're copying from a likely unstable source
(the live system might be writing to your volume as you attempt to copy
it). Try shutting down the master (live) system with shutdown -h now
Mark,
Hm, I even didn't think about cache and what it could do to not only
files but also to the filesystem itself. And even if I did I'd have
guessed it would only mess up a logfile that isn't in use on the target
anyway. We would start in a new machine with an empty /var/log/messages
and
Very true. I was feeling fine until you made me feel old this morning
g.
K
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Mark Perry
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 6:25 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version
When I installed VM BSEPP, I did not know if the idea of virtualization
would last. Now I have a penguin ranch.
Lea Stahr
zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator
Navistar, Inc.
630-753-5445
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Just for a test, try switching the disk references in /etc/fstab to
by-path syntax. I'm speculating here, but is it possible that there are
some issues with correctly identifying which disk to use for /dev/dasda?
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Doing a dd on a device goes through the cache, so in this case the cache can't
be the problem. Doing a dd on a live system however will not work. With or
without a cache the filesystem can change while you are doing the copy, which
would result in a bad root on the new system.
I suspect that
van Sleeuwen, Berry wrote:
Mark,
Hm, I even didn't think about cache and what it could do to not only
files but also to the filesystem itself. And even if I did I'd have
guessed it would only mess up a logfile that isn't in use on the target
anyway. We would start in a new machine with an empty
Evans, Kevin R wrote:
Kinda makes one realize how long z/OS (or its ancestors) has been
around, doesn't it?
MFT?
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Yeppers.
K
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Evans, Kevin R wrote:
Kinda makes one realize how long
OS/VS1?
Lea Stahr
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John Summerfield
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Nah, MFT and I don't even remember what release CICS was in (it was
macro based, ya know DFHKC, DFHFC etc). Suffice it to say, there was no
Restart/Recovery. This was when I was at Allied Breweries in England, we
wrote our own (with a lot of IBM cooperation - we had several SEs on
site back then)
MFT, MVT, then VS1.I was DOS/VS. Installed CICS 1.0 macro level to
replace BTAM stuff like 40407F7F2DOLDER THAN THE HILLS. My new
360/30 had a DISK drive (no more TOS). DFHPCT, DFHPPT, DFHFCT, DFHTCT
etc in CICS.
Lea Stahr
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Navistar, Inc.
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Mine was 360/50 and a 360/30. When the 30 was replaced with a 2nd 50, we
ran the 30 for about a month outside of the computer room (with no air
conditioning other than opening the windows) with IBMs blessing. 2311
and 2314 disk drives with a paper tape reader that had a flippable
table so that the
We had a check 13 pocket sorter that was connected to a printer that
printed tapes. When the pocket filled, you pulled the tape and banded it
to the checks. (1968) Our primary system was a card only 1401G.
Lea Stahr
zVM, Linux and zLinux Administrator
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Mine was 360/50 and a 360/30. When the 30 was replaced with a
2nd 50, we ran the 30 for about a month outside of the
computer room (with no air conditioning other than opening
the windows) with IBMs blessing.
This is getting like Monty Python g.
One guy says When we were young, we used to eat the leather from our
shoes. The other guy says You had shoes?.
LOL
Kevin
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Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008
I'd like to sit in a tower and tell some people where to go g today.
K
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Chase, John
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Distribution ages, was: Linux version
z/VM'ers,
After a few searches and actually scanning the CP commands and utilities
manual, hopefully I can get some help with this z/VM related question. If I
have a z/linux guest called ztrash01, I can logon to z/VM as ztrash01, IPL
xxx, logon to Linux and shutdown -h now, and if I'm still
Check out the AUTOLOG and XAUTOLOG commands.
Kris
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 03:10:56PM -0400, Tom Burkholder wrote:
z/VM'ers,
After a few searches and actually scanning the CP commands and utilities
manual, hopefully I can get some help with this z/VM related question. If I
have a
On 8/20/2008 at 12:26 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alan Cox
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I'd question that on all sorts of grounds. For one I'm very sure Debian
is much much newer than Slackware. Slackware is *old* - really old.
You're right, although depending on how you measure age
To cause the IPL of guest ztrash01 at LOGON, I believe I can put that in
the PROFILE EXEC (e.g. IPL xxx) at the end, but how (if at all) can I cause
the guest to be logged on (opposite of FORCE) while being logged on to z/VM as
operator?
XAUTOLOG guestname
Pieter Harder
Brabant Water
To solve your problem you need to review the CP XAUTOLOG command and place
the IPL xxx in the profile exec for your linux guest.
Thanks,
Detro
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Also, just a little tip.. You might want to either SET OBSERVER .. in the
ztrash01 profile exec or in the directory entry for ztrash01. That way you can
see the LINUX IPL console messages even though it is comming up disconnected.
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Thanks to all!
XAUTOLOG it is and an IPL xxx added to the profile.
It's already been tested and works. I'll also look at the SET OBSERVER too
from the latest email tip.
Thanks again,
Tom B.
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Detro
Sent: Thursday, August 21,
On 8/20/2008 at 3:36 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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2.6.16.46-0.12-default. I am currently trying to workout how to do an upgrade
but I am using the SP1 starter system and documentation seems sparse.
You're entitled to 180 days of maintenance.
On Friday 22 Aug 2008, Mark Post wrote:
On 8/20/2008 at 3:36 PM, in message
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Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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2.6.16.46-0.12-default. I am currently trying to workout how to do an
upgrade but I am using the SP1 starter system and documentation seems
On 8/21/2008 at 4:11 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Robin Atwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Thanks, I will check this out. But I am having trouble locating good doco as
to how to set up the online maintenance.
The first part of my article at
On 8/6/2008 at 3:04 PM, in message
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Mrohs, Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We have 2 SLES10 SP1 servers. When I start yast2 on the first linux, the
xterm screen shows a long scrolling list of selections, and its slow. On
the second linux, the Control Center display is compact
I expect the problem is using 'dd' for the copying may not get the
magic signatures that makes the disk a CDL format, so the driver ends
up seeing it as LDL and gets things misaligned. But you should be able
to notice that when the new system is booting.
Have you considered using DDR or such to
Tom, suggestions:
1- To automate the IPL, I start my Linuxes together with VM, coding CP
XAUTOLOG guest into AUTOLOG1's profile.exec
2- To automate Shutdown, there are changes on VM (SYSTEM CONFIG) and in
Linux (zipl.conf)
Resuming:
On SYSTEM CONFIG (can be activated by commands, too):
One other thing you may find useful:
If you boot with the kernel parameter vmhalt=LOGOFF (added to
/etc/zipl.conf), the guest will logoff after halt.
-Brad
Tom Burkholder wrote:
Thanks to all!
XAUTOLOG it is and an IPL xxx added to the profile.
It's already been tested and works. I'll also
On 8/21/2008 at 5:22 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob van der Heij
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I expect the problem is using 'dd' for the copying may not get the
magic signatures that makes the disk a CDL format, so the driver ends
up seeing it as LDL and gets things misaligned.
No, that
Evans, Kevin R wrote:
BE to re-institute our own recovery stuff). We even had pre-production
3270 screens g.
We had a few 2260s on one system; 3270s hadn't been invented yet.
I know, this dates me a lot g.
Kevin
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Evans, Kevin R wrote:
Mine was 360/50 and a 360/30. When the 30 was replaced with a 2nd 50, we
ran the 30 for about a month outside of the computer room (with no air
conditioning other than opening the windows) with IBMs blessing. 2311
and 2314 disk drives with a paper tape reader that had a
Mark Post wrote:
On 8/21/2008 at 5:22 PM, in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob van der Heij
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I expect the problem is using 'dd' for the copying may not get the
magic signatures that makes the disk a CDL format, so the driver ends
up seeing it as LDL and gets things
Evans, Kevin R wrote:
This is getting like Monty Python g.
One guy says When we were young, we used to eat the leather from our
shoes. The other guy says You had shoes?.
OS/360 - some of you guys make me feel young, thanks ;-)
You must be around 60, either that or your systems were old at
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