Eric Spencer writes:
[ Mark Post writes:]
On 7/22/2010 at 06:19 PM, Marcy Cortes
marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote:
Sounds like it will be talking over that private IP network rather than
some
sort of CP co-processor though, so anything is possible.
I didn't see any mention of
Dave Jones writes:
Thanks, Alan, that's what I wanted to knowwe still treat these
blades as distributed servers, only they're connected to the z via a
secure, fast, internal network. Excellent.
But wait, there's more...
Once a blade is purchased and entitled to be put in the zBX, as soon
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Subject: Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???
On 7/22/2010 at 06:19 PM, Marcy Cortes
marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote:
Sounds like it will be talking
And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version of the
z196. :-)
DJ
On 07/22/2010 06:38 AM, Jim Elliott wrote:
The IBM zEnterprise System has been announced. Check out the
web site at http://ibm.com/systems/zenterprise
Jim
So the biggest announcement of the year, i'm on my second pot of coffee,
and there's still only one post about this? Is this a non-event?
Dave Jones wrote:
And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version of the
z196. :-)
DJ
On 07/22/2010 06:38 AM, Jim Elliott wrote:
The IBM
Maybe everyone is waiting for the webcast.
The name is a little weird.
Sounds speedy - what do *you* think about it?
Marcy
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Maybe everyone is waiting for the webcast.
The name is a little weird.
Sounds speedy - what do *you* think about it?
Marcy
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Ok, i listened to the announcement too. It does solve a lot of problems.
The issue with consolidating windows workloads - this would NOT be
done with emulators on z, the cost of an intel emulator is so high (as
anyone with a EECS degree should know). So the choice is convert to
Linux, but that
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Subject: Re: IBM zEnterprise System announced???
Ok, i listened to the announcement too. It does solve a lot of problems.
The issue with consolidating windows workloads - this would NOT be
done with emulators on z, the cost of an intel emulator is so high (as
anyone with a EECS
On Thursday, 07/22/2010 at 11:34 EDT, Barton Robinson
bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com wrote:
So the biggest announcement of the year, i'm on my second pot of coffee,
and there's still only one post about this? Is this a non-event?
Kind of hard to talk about the enhancements in support of
On Thursday, 07/22/2010 at 02:03 EDT, Gentry, Stephen
stephen.gen...@lafayettelife.com wrote:
I was expecting more in the x86 area (Windoz, specifically servers) as
that is a much needed consolidation area.
Or did I miss something?
From the FAQ:
Q: Will the zEnterprise System support for
I was expecting more in the x86 area (Windoz, specifically
servers) as that is a much needed consolidation area. Or did I
miss something?
Stephen:
The management functions in zBX and URM depend heavily on
interfaces to the hypervisor and the operating system. With
PowerVM and KVM, and AIX and
And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version
of the z196. :-)
Dave:
zEnterprise is just following x86 and RISC here. Water is much
better at cooling that air and this does improve the
environmentals over time. There is a higher up front cost
however.
Jim
Alan, are you trying to make this announcement so totally boring on
purpose? Just business as usual? nothing really new and exciting? Is
there anything here you could make exciting and explain why someone
would care? (faster is just expected, no longer exciting, more memory?
no support by z/vm
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 03:11:03PM -0400, Jim Elliott wrote:
And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version
of the z196. :-)
Dave:
zEnterprise is just following x86 and RISC here. Water is much
better at cooling that air and this does improve the
environmentals over time.
So true, Barton.nothing to see here...move along :-)
I'd like more technical details on how workloads running on zLinux can
be integrated with supporting processes running on the blade Linux. can
a zLinux process control a blade server Linux process directly and if
so, how?
Nonetheless,
On 07/22/2010 02:11 PM, Jim Elliott wrote:
And what's old is new againthere's a water cooled version of
the z196. :-)
Dave:
zEnterprise is just following x86 and RISC here. Water is much
Which in turn followed the S/370.:-) LOL
better at cooling that air and this does improve the
If the hw+sw combo is cheaper than nehalem intel as the webcast suggested, that
is huge.
Too many people only look at HW/SW and think that that is TCO because the rest
is too difficult to calculate (or they are politically motivated not to count
the other stuff).
I would think the increased
Oh, by we I meant the linux-390 community.
Marcy
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On 7/22/2010 at 05:29 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com
wrote:
Oh, by we I meant the linux-390 community.
And here I thought you were going all Royal on us. :)
Mark Post
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LOL.
I was trying to say that to me it seems like the zBX will (at least initially)
be directed at adding some functionality (or maybe even offload because of that
pesky sw bill issue that ziips and zaaps try to fix) to z/OS only. The Smart
Analytics Optimizer is an example of that. One
On Thursday, 07/22/2010 at 04:58 EDT, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com
wrote:
So true, Barton.nothing to see here...move along :-)
I'd like more technical details on how workloads running on zLinux can
be integrated with supporting processes running on the blade Linux. can
a zLinux
Alan wrote: - Politics. A way different definition of turf. When is
Distributed
not Distributed? When it's part of zEnterprise.
What's with the French accent Alan? I thought Altmark was German or Danish or
something?
But zee Enterprise sounds a lot better than zed Enterprise for sure.
Barton yanking Alans chain ...
Where have I seen that before ?.
Shane ...
On Fri, Jul 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Barton Robinson wrote:
Alan, are you trying to make this announcement so totally boring on
purpose? Just business as usual? nothing really new and exciting? Is
there anything here
On 7/22/2010 at 06:19 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com
wrote:
Sounds like it will be talking over that private IP network rather than some
sort of CP co-processor though, so anything is possible.
I didn't see any mention of an IP network, just that it was private. That
Argh, not SNA I hope!
What else could it be?
Marcy
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it's a marketing thing.. we wouldn't understand ;-)
Scott Rohling
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Shane G ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote:
Barton yanking Alans chain ...
Where have I seen that before ?.
Shane ...
On Fri, Jul 23rd, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Barton Robinson wrote:
Alan, are you
All the bits are now to be OSA connected.
Shane ...
On Fri, Jul 23rd, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mark Post wrote:
I didn't see any mention of an IP network, just that it was private.
That could mean a lot of things.
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Thanks, Alan, that's what I wanted to knowwe still treat these
blades as distributed servers, only they're connected to the z via a
secure, fast, internal network. Excellent.
DJ
On 07/22/2010 05:29 PM, Alan Altmark wrote:
On Thursday, 07/22/2010 at 04:58 EDT, Dave
Nothing new about automated failover/DR? Something GDPS-like running on a
beefed-up HMC or on something smaller than another mainframe? Some of us
don't have z/OS and would be reluctant to put more eggs in the same
basket...
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Argh, not SNA I hope!
Well, we *were* consulted... 8-)
What else could it be?
They wouldn't let me do MOP or DECnet phase IV, so I went home. Boo hoo.
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