Let's say you ran a large, profitable company like IBM. You're risking a
lot in supporting something like Linux. Contrary to popular belief, it is
not the silver bullet of all IT, and it is not the most stable operating
system in existence (nor even close). Would you not want to have a little
It just goes to show that despite all the Peace, Love and Linux BS,
IBM still doesn't grok Open Source.
-Original Message-
From: Snyder, Bradley (LNG) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 10:48 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LCS drivers for 2.4.9 ?
Let's
Hi,all.
I am trying to install the z/VM 4.2 under hercules at intel machine
a few days ago.I am unsure of this way to use the tape device before
getting started.
The ddr program ,however, has been loaded from tape device and fully dumped
out after 2 hours.(as we know, we need to enough coffee.
Hi,all.
I am trying to install the z/VM 4.2 under hercules/Debian(woody) at
intel machine a few days ago.I am unsure of this way to use the tape
device before getting started.
The ddr program ,however, has been loaded from tape device and fully dumped
out after 2 hours.(as we know, we need to
Hi,all.
I am trying to install the z/VM 4.2 under hercules/Debian(woody) at
intel machine a few days ago.I am unsure of this way to use the tape
device before getting started.
The ddr program ,however, has been loaded from tape device and fully dumped
out after 2 hours.(as we know, we need to
not the silver bullet of all IT, and it is not the most stable operating
system in existence (nor even close). Would you not want to have a little
quality control?
Mummy knows best
What are you going to do if IBM turns around says we're bored of this OCO
hassle we are dropping all support
It just goes to show that despite all the Peace, Love and Linux BS,
IBM still doesn't grok Open Source.
Or city rules on graffiti 8)
sorry, mail queue is sleeping now in my smtp system.I don't know that.(repeat 4
times) @@;
AGAIN ??
- Original Message -
From: Yoon-suk Cho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 1:49 PM
Subject: installed z/VM 4.2 under hercules at intel machine.
Hi,all.
I am trying to install the z/VM 4.2 under hercules/Debian(woody) at
intel
I'm not speaking IBM as a corporation, just expressing my own observations.
As IBM supplies the great bulk of its S/390 modifications as source
patches, including CKD dasd, I don't see OCO for OSA cards as a Linux
issue, per se, nor an open source issue.
Rather, QDIO is a hardware feature, for
Remember, the ONLY Linux kernel OCO code IBM supplies, to my knowlede, is
for OSA cards!
And what about next month, or next year. In the PC world I can rip out a
card if a vendor screws me, and go elsewhere. Its a $200 annoyance not
a million dollar business risk.
Alan
I found it. It's at ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/s390/update/7.0/pay1/
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/s390/update/7.0/pay1/
You have your choice of IBM's version, or the Blackdown version. (I don't
recall hearing of any others. Someone else will correct me if that's not
right.)
IBM's can be had here: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/s390/update/7.0/pay1/
The Blackdown version is at
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/s390/update/7.0/pay1/
Regards,
Jim
That's an interesting non sequitur.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Alan Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 3:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LCS drivers for 2.4.9 ?
Remember, the ONLY Linux kernel OCO code IBM supplies, to my knowlede, is
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers
Here he explains, briefly what is going on with his system. I suspect
however, the real reason will becoming out RSN.
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Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The
Mark writes:
That's an interesting non sequitur.
I don't think its a non sequitur - having something OCO means it can't
be updated for new kernel releases, it can't be investigated when
problems are happening, it depends on IBM for everything. That is a
real business risk for people who
And none of that has anything to do with what Jim Sibley was saying. Hence,
the non sequitur. I guess some people are more interested in flaming IBM
than in reading what people are actually writing.
Mark Post
-Original Message-
From: Henry Schaffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
No vendor ships Linus base kernel. Linus base kernel doesn't pass anyones
QA test suite. Linus role is to put out clean well designed code and to
ensure development takes the right paths. The vendors then all add on
top of that various things including bug fixes which while they may fix
the
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers
Then why is Slackware constantly saying in their notes, on the kernel
source code, that it is, and I quote here, from the one for 2.2.18,
This is the complete and unmodified source code for the Linux kernel.
As I have found out, Red
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers
Say. Didn't I just throw that one up into the air, regarding
Slackware? Still Rick has a heck of good point, we should be discussing
this like professionals, and not flaming everyone, just because that
person, may, or may not be
o IBM evidently has issues other than the driver code itself
that prevent it releasing the driver code source
Ah, but we don't need the entire driver... just the pieces that interface w/ the
kernel... let the super secret stuff stay OCO... this just requires the design
of
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