Re: Hi there...

2002-04-16 Thread Phil Payne
For the record, the Hercules list is uncensored. Phil Payne's access was set to moderated (he can still post, if approved by a list moderator) because he was disrupting the list despite repeated requests from a large number of list members to lay off on his continual FUD. He was asked to take

Re: SLES7 for S/390 and Tomcat 4.03 Automating Startup Problem

2002-04-16 Thread Sergey Korzhevsky
My script is... return=$rc_done case $1 in start) . /etc/profile.d/javaprof.sh #JAVA_HOME=. nohup /usr/local/jakarta/tomcat/bin/startup.sh ;; ...working fine. nohup is right command :) WBR, Sergey

Re: Hi there...

2002-04-16 Thread Alan Cox
now becoming quite serious in the EMC/Hitachi case. The fatc that Hercules' implementation of these features is in software and not in hardware brings a fascinating aspect to bear. Patents on software algorithms apply only in a tiny number of nations. At worst Hercules would join the vast

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Phil Payne
The chapter was not accidentally left out. It is rare for a redbook to change this way. The powers that be whom effected this change come from a different part of IBM society. They have a different viewpoint. They perhaps don't understand the significance of the open source revolution.

Re: Linux under VM + Toolsets.

2002-04-16 Thread Vic Cross
Alan Altmark wrote: snip (And the problem will be magnified if z/VM adds support for IEEE VLANs.) /snip I've always thought that this would be a logical extension of the multiple LPAR/multiple port support in OSA. If different device address pairs (OAT entries) could be associated with

Re: can't mount root after dasd move

2002-04-16 Thread Gelbard, Sandy
Mark, The parmfile data that I orginally supplied was incorrect. It actually had dasd=33a0,33A1 in it. I used your procedures and they worked like a charm. I only wish I knew what I did wrong the first time. Thanks to all for your assistance. SG -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K

RedHat 7.2 Install from DASD

2002-04-16 Thread Chet Norris
I have a problem getting the RH 7.2 install system up and running under a VIF image. I created a new DASD, formatted it and put a filesystem on it. Mounted the new dasd at /mnt, cd /boot, did a tar cf - . | tar xf - -C /mnt (as described in the ISP/ASP RedBook alt boot section). Ftp'ed

suse server 7 2.4 , and osa express install

2002-04-16 Thread Steve Gear Schneider Technical Services
hello, i had a problem with the 'boot-from-cd' procedure installing suse server 7, 2.4 kernel with a osa express card. the install script had a bug and i had to use a work-around procedure. suse has a fix . The fixed intrd, kernel image etc can be found here:

Re: General Linux Question

2002-04-16 Thread Alan Cox
there's a lot of folk who say it doesn't work well that's the reason the kernel's shipped without the support being built. Writing is said to be especially hazardous to the data. Reading seems pretty solid now days although I doubt it works at all on XP. Generally its best to exchange data

kernel 2.4.7 and kernel 2.4.17 bug fixes

2002-04-16 Thread Axel Wirbser
Linux for S/390 zSeries: Please check out the DeveloperWorks page at: http://www10.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux390/whatsnew.shtml On the Recommended level 2.4.7 page at: http://www10.software.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/linux390/current2_4.shtml you will find: -

Re: Linux under VM + Toolsets.

2002-04-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 04/16/2002 at 10:27ZE10, Vic Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Altmark wrote: snip (And the problem will be magnified if z/VM adds support for IEEE VLANs.) /snip I've always thought that this would be a logical extension of the multiple LPAR/multiple port support in OSA.

DHCP Server

2002-04-16 Thread darren zamrykut
Hi, Is there any configuration differences when it comes to setting up a DHCP Server on s390 running SLES 7 compared to an Intel PC? I have setup a DHCP Server on both, with no luck on s390. A windows client connects to the Intel PC but not thes390. Only one of DHCP server is running at the

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Hi list, I got the reply from the ITSO; the book is not going to be renumbered to -01 as the changes do not meet the criteria: For all - normal practice that is documented is that if 10%+ changes it is a new version #. Otherwise not so. Remember that our site shows a last revised

Re: DHCP Server

2002-04-16 Thread Post, Mark K
DHCP depends on broadcasting to be working. If you're using a network interface that doesn't support broadcast, it won't work. What is your network interface? Mark Post -Original Message- From: darren zamrykut [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:18 PM To:

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Can I ask you to state publically and explicitly: what were the reasons given for the removal, by those who supported this action? We can surmise what they might be, but it would be interesting to hear... No. I don't recall details, and I've stuck my neck out as far as I care. Let's move on

Re: Hi there...

2002-04-16 Thread Jay Maynard
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 11:27:33AM -0400, Alan Altmark wrote: FYIHere at the WAVV conference, one or more requirements are planned to be submitted to IBM to address the issue of hobbyist licensing of S/390 and zSeries software. That's great! I'll be happy to discuss my thoughts on the

Re: apr for mod_webapp make problem

2002-04-16 Thread Rick Troth
... but make gets error in system.h with error messages: /usr/include/asm/system.h: In function '__xchg': /usr/include/asm/system.h:67: '__u32 undeclared /usr/include/asm/system.h:67: parse error before 'ptr' /usr/include/asm/system.h:90: parse error before 'ptr' make[2]: ***

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Phil Payne
I'll say. The first version clearly acknowledged the contribution made by Roger and the Hercules team - not directly to the writing, but recognising how helpful Hercules had been. Perhaps that contribution shouldn't have been acknowledged; who am I to say? If it had never been there we

Re: compile error with 31-bit RedHat 7.2

2002-04-16 Thread Tung-Sing Chong
Florian, Thanks for your respond. add this as a patch to the kernel src.rpm and then rebuild the -- Do you mean rebuilding the kernel with 2.4.9-31 source tree and compile my file again? Anyway I did the following ways and got the same error: 1 - applied kernel-2.4.9-31.s390.rpm,

apr for mod_webapp make problem

2002-04-16 Thread Vincent Gazzillo
trying to comile apr for mod_webapp under redhat linux s/390 2.4.9-31.1. ran ./buildconf and ./configure as directed, but make gets error in system.h with error messages: /usr/include/asm/system.h: In function '__xchg': /usr/include/asm/system.h:67: '__u32 undeclared

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Phil Payne
You'll be glad to know IBM is not infallible - they missed one. The URL http://www.snipix.freeserve.co.uk/hercinst.html survives near the top of page 509. The URL is dead. Nothing sinister, though - as I surmised, the owners have simply dumped Freeserve (very sensible of them) and gone to

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Post, Mark K
Who in the world ever thought they _were_? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Phil Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OK who messed with the redbook? You'll be glad to know IBM is not infallible - they missed one.

acl's

2002-04-16 Thread Wolfe, Gordon W
Does anyone know if anyone has done the port of access control lists (acl's) to Linux/390 yet? Specifically SuSE SLES7? You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. -Motto of the Darwin Society Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D. (425) 865-5940 VM Technical

quick linux time (and NTP) question

2002-04-16 Thread daniel . jarboe
Running RH 7.2 in an LPAR. I wanted to verify something. Hardware is getting the time from a sysplex timer. Linux is getting the time from the hardware (how?). So, the local clock on my linux server is a reflection of the sysplex timer? Running an NTP server using the local clock as a server

Re: quick linux time (and NTP) question

2002-04-16 Thread James Melin
Different specifically How? |-+ | | daniel.jarboe@cus| | | tserv.com| | | Sent by: Linux on| | | 390 Port | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |

Application of Kernel Patches

2002-04-16 Thread Scully, William
If you know of a helpful tutorial on the application of patches to the Linux for S/390 kernel, would you kindly post the URL (or similar) here? In particular we're getting ready to apply the so-called Timer patches for the 2.4 kernel. Thanks much!

Re: apr for mod_webapp make problem

2002-04-16 Thread Vincent Gazzillo
did not spot -ansi flag anywhere in compiler flags. but did put in CPPFLAGS in rules.mk to see what would happen and go same error messages. so that wasn't it. i tried to use the precompiled mod_webapp.so at http://www.tuxosaur.org/downloads/mod_webapp.zip but that just give Segmentation fault

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Richard Higson
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 01:38:54PM -0400, Michael MacIsaac wrote: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:38:54 -0400 From: Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OK who messed with the redbook? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can I ask you to state publically and explicitly: what were the

Re: quick linux time (and NTP) question

2002-04-16 Thread Post, Mark K
Daniel, No, and no. Linux/390 is not getting the time from sysplex timer (at least not directly). When Linux/390 boots up, it gets the time from VM (not the hardware). (In your case, VM does get the time from the timer.) After that, Linux/390 tries to keep the system time on its own. Which

Re: apr for mod_webapp make problem

2002-04-16 Thread Rick Troth
did not spot -ansi flag anywhere in compiler flags. You might be tripping over something different. What I specifically thought it might be is in linux/types.h there is a section that reads something like #if defined(__GNUC__) !defined(__STRICT_ANSI__) typedef __u64

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Jay Maynard
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 10:56:26PM +0200, Richard Higson wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 01:38:54PM -0400, Michael MacIsaac wrote: No. I don't recall details, and I've stuck my neck out as far as I care. Thank you Mike, for having the integrity to 'stick your neck out' as far as you have. It

Re: apr for mod_webapp make problem

2002-04-16 Thread Steve Guthrie
Don't use mod-webapp. Use mod_jk, it will give you better results. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vincent Gazzillo Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: apr for mod_webapp make problem did not spot

Re: apr for mod_webapp make problem

2002-04-16 Thread Rengasamy, Samy
That mod_webapp.zip was built on a 2.2 kernel and probably that may have caused the segfault. It works on our system with Suse 7.0, 2.2 kernel. Samy Rengasamy. -Original Message- From: Vincent Gazzillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: apr for mod_webapp make problem

2002-04-16 Thread Alan Cox
What I specifically thought it might be is in linux/types.h there is a section that reads something like #if defined(__GNUC__) !defined(__STRICT_ANSI__) typedef __u64 uint64_t; typedef __u64 u_int64_t; typedef

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-16 Thread Robert Werner
Hi Samy ! How to pre-allocate a 4GB File in a system with several 2.3 GB dasds? We're looking for a way to be able to create a single file slightly larger than 4Gbytes (to test some logic in the code which has been known to break on ports where seek offsets go over 32-bits). Or is the

Re: How to pre-allocate a 4GB File?

2002-04-16 Thread Alan Cox
We're looking for a way to be able to create a single file slightly larger than 4Gbytes (to test some logic in the code which has been known to break on ports where seek offsets go over 32-bits). Or is the largest file we can ever make around 2.3Gbytes ? The Linux LVM allows you to

Re: DHCP Server

2002-04-16 Thread David Boyes
Is there any configuration differences when it comes to setting up a DHCP Server on s390 running SLES 7 compared to an Intel PC? On the Linux side, no, but it *does* matter how the Linux system is connected to the network. DHCP is broadcast-based, and thus if you have a correctly configured

Re: DHCP Server

2002-04-16 Thread David Boyes
Internally I'm not sure if Guest LANs support what's needed (yet?). As of z/VM 4.2, guest LANs do not support broadcast, and thus DHCP does not work on guest LANs. -- db

OT: Flames

2002-04-16 Thread David Boyes
This is going on far too long, considering this is the Linux group. There's an unlinked copy on my site at http://www.isham-research.com/insult.txt Be warned - it does contain obscenities. This is not great prose. Amusing. Pretty light-weight by Usenet standards, though -- not a single

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread John Summerfield
Hi list, I got the reply from the ITSO; the book is not going to be renumbered to -01 as the changes do not meet the criteria: For all - normal practice that is documented is that if 10%+ changes it is a new version #. Otherwise not so. Remember that our site shows a last

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Phil Payne
What software does Linux replace? By and large Unix on other hardware I'd think. From what I gather, if I buy a zSeries machine to run Linux on, I'm also likely to buy z/VM and probably some other software too. Laudable in principle, but what are the results? How many zSeries machines have

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Alan Cox
on, I'm also likely to buy z/VM and probably some other software too. Laudable in principle, but what are the results? How many zSeries machines have been sold solely to run Linux? Is it three yet - out of 1,500 or so zSeries shipped? How many shipped because Linux existed for S/390 -

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Mark Earnest
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Alan Cox wrote: How many shipped because Linux existed for S/390 - thats the important question. Including the hard to quantify cool factor it gave the 390 instead of making everyone think of balding old farts who speak only

Re: Hi there... (missed one)

2002-04-16 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Second the motion. It turns out that the whole internals of the systems, that evolved into System/390, were being designed into place, right around the year I was born. So, yes, they are my age. And no laughs, and finger pointing either. --- Gregg C

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Richard Higson
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 06:07:38PM -0400, Post, Mark K wrote: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 18:07:38 -0400 From: Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OK who messed with the redbook? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard, I've got a running Red Hat 7.2 (very minimal) system up. What

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Jay Maynard
On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 07:55:02PM -0400, Mark Earnest wrote: Hey, not fair! I happen to know one MVS systems programmer who is a balding 23 year old fart :) Yes, they do exist, but they're extremely rare... I gave a talk at SHARE (the IBM large system users group) last July. I noted that my

Re: OK who messed with the redbook?

2002-04-16 Thread Rick Troth
On Tue, 16 Apr 2002, Mark Earnest wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Alan Cox wrote: ... making everyone think of balding old farts who speak only JCL 8) Hey, not fair! I happen to know one MVS systems programmer who is a balding 23 year old fart :) You telling us that MVS causes premature hair

Re: Hi there...

2002-04-16 Thread Craig Vernon
Let me just emphasis one distinction that appears not to have been appreciated. Patents are not issued for algorithms but only the implementation of them, in an invention or process. The effect of this is quite limiting and specific. You could still implement the same algorithm for a different

OT: Excuse Me But..

2002-04-16 Thread Phil Roberts
Excuse Me, To the 1600 or so people subscribed to this list I wish a good evening. As a partial clarification and addition to an earlier post made by Jay Maynard. Phil Roberts does not speak or act for the Hercules team. Phil's posting privileges were set to require moderator approval before

Re: apr for mod_webapp make problem

2002-04-16 Thread Rich Blair
i'm running SuSe 7.0 Linux 2.2.16 and getting the same error as Vincent stated. Not sure where the -ansi flag is invoked. Thanks -Original Message- From: Rick Troth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: apr for mod_webapp