In a message dated 5/20/2002 11:32:50 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
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Actually, if you position it as this is the partitioning manager you need
to deliver new instances, the Unix guys rarely blink at that. They'll have
to learn a partition manager for any system like
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In a message dated 5/14/2002 10:21:07 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
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Alan - you are missing the point and I believe that Dave already mentioned
some of the reasons but I will add mine.
We are a OS/390 shop with ZERO VM skills. The distributed group does not
want to learn z/VM for many reasons, among them are the lack
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In a message dated 5/14/2002 3:53:57 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
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If you are unhappy with the z/VM system administration
solutions from IBM, try a different z/VM system admin solution from
another vendor.
OK
We are a OS/390 shop with ZERO VM skills. The distributed
group does not
want to learn z/VM for many reasons, among them are the lack
of any usable
intro/how-to documents to get started with - the existing
pubs assume a
firm foundation or knowledge gained from attending a class.
Hmm.
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We are a OS/390 shop with ZERO VM skills. The distributed group does
not want to learn z/VM for many reasons, among them are the lack
of any usable
intro/how-to documents
In a message dated 5/15/2002 10:18:11 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
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We are a OS/390 shop with ZERO VM skills. The distributed
group does not
want to learn z/VM for many reasons, among them are the lack
of any usable
intro/how-to documents to get started with -
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Hi David,
Two years ago when I first became involved with Linux, I knew absolutely
nothing about it (zip, zero, zilch). I purchased an I32 version,
installed
it according to the installation instructions, and proceeded to study it
and
learn what
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In a message dated 5/15/2002 10:56:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
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So for those folks who are saying that they want to use VM to host Linux/390
server farms, but they don't want to know anything about VM - it's kind of
like me saying I want to use Linux to run
in zVM V4R2 Express Installation
In a message dated 5/15/2002 10:56:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
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So for those folks who are saying that they want to use VM to host
Linux/390
server farms, but they don't want to know anything about VM - it's kind
of
like me
Well, I'll add my 2 cents.
As a shop with VM in it for about 20 years, we don't want IBM
to put a lot of effort into SAF and such. The first thing we
do is pull out RACF and DIRMAINT and put it VM:Secure. We do
appreciate the 1 page install sheet though because we tend to
do a couple of
At 18:47 15-05-02, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote:
I teach music on the side. All my students want to know how to play well,
but don't want to practice. Everyone wants experience and knowledge, but
are not willing to put out the effort to obtain it.
I like that analogy.
We even have people whe insist
If you are unhappy with the z/VM system administration
solutions from IBM, try a different z/VM system admin solution from
another vendor.
So who are the top 3 ISV z/VM vendors and do any of them make
z/VM / Linux admin more user friendly..particularly in the cloning and tuning
areas
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I think it's easy to say that SAF could eliminate its control of the
directory but also trivial to construct a counterexample situation
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There are simply too many knobs, levers, bells, whistles, and
portals that have developed over the last 30 years to allow a meaningful
simplification of the magnitude imposed by SAF and VIF. How does
If you followed the following
install a 2nd z/VM under the first and to activate SAF there
so that you
have a real z/VM to learn with as you can't guarantee that there is an
available LPAR to install z/VM in for experimentation.
Then your production Linux/390 would be running under a 2nd
Alan - you are missing the point and I believe that Dave already mentioned
some of the reasons but I will add mine.
We are a OS/390 shop with ZERO VM skills. The distributed group does not
want to learn z/VM for many reasons, among them are the lack of any usable
intro/how-to documents to get
On Tuesday, 05/14/2002 at 10:31 MST, Lionel Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Alan - you are missing the point and I believe that Dave already
mentioned
some of the reasons but I will add mine.
We are a OS/390 shop with ZERO VM skills. The distributed group does not
want to learn z/VM for many
In a message dated 5/14/2002 2:04:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
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If IBM doesn't have the VM
administration solution you need, then I would suggest that you look to
other vendors of VM software.
...real niceI'm just reading through the latest z/OS Hot Topics
On Tuesday, 05/14/2002 at 04:09 EDT, Dave Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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In a message dated 5/14/2002 2:04:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
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If IBM doesn't have the VM
administration solution you need, then I would suggest that you look
to
other vendors of VM
In a message dated 5/14/2002 3:53:57 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
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If you are unhappy with the z/VM system administration
solutions from IBM, try a different z/VM system admin solution from
another vendor.
OK...thanks for the enlightenment.
I definitely misconstrued
On Tuesday, 05/14/2002 at 06:02 EDT, Dave Myers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So who are the top 3 ISV z/VM vendors and do any of them make
z/VM / Linux admin more user friendly..particularly in the cloning and
tuning
areas
Dave, I'll have to let those ISVs with products that address these
Hello,
I've just installed zVM V4R2 using the Express Installation Method. I
would like to use the System Administration Facility (SAF) to manage Linux
instances. I sign on as MAINT and issue the command VMADMCTL START and I
get Unknow CP/CMS Command. Is anyone aware of any special LINKs I
I don't have release 4 yet, but a good guess is you need to do a vmfsetup
command of some sort.
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Hello
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Hello,
I've just installed zVM V4R2 using the Express Installation Method. I
would like to use the System Administration Facility (SAF) to manage Linux
instances. I sign on as MAINT and issue the command VMADMCTL START and I
get Unknow CP/CMS
My notes say that I had to issue vmfsetup zvm cp before I ran the
VMADMCTL command.
Be aware that there are a LOT of limitations to SAF and if you are
planning to eventually migrate to a native z/VM environment you will need
a second z/VM running somewhere else to learn on as you won't be able
13, 2002 5:03 PM
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Hello,
I've just installed zVM V4R2 using the Express Installation Method. I
would like to use the System Administration Facility (SAF) to manage
Linux
instances. I sign on as MAINT and issue the command
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Hello,
I've just installed zVM V4R2 using the Express Installation Method. I
would like to use the System Administration
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Lionel:
I think it's easy to say that SAF could eliminate its control of the
directory but also trivial to construct
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