Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-16 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 02/16/2017 at 07:58 GMT, Douglas Wooster wrote: > And for extra credit, you could run the z/VM on Hercules on an x86 box :) Only if the x86 were Mantissa on CMS or BOCHS on Linux on your z machine. Darn those annoying license agreements! :-) Alan Altmark

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-16 Thread Paul Flint
o: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux? And for extra credit, you could run the z/VM on Hercules on an x86 box :) Douglas -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Troth Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:11 PM T

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-16 Thread Douglas Wooster
And for extra credit, you could run the z/VM on Hercules on an x86 box :) Douglas -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Rick Troth Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:11 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Oracle

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-16 Thread Rick Troth
On 02/16/2017 07:46 AM, Paul Flint wrote: > I am going out on a limb here and suggesting that Mantissa somehow > compiled something like ReactOS? Mantissa figured out a way to run X86 (32-bit and 64-bit) binaries and operating systems on top of z/VM. (ReactOS, Windows, Linux, *BSD, anything)

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-16 Thread Paul Flint
again Timothy and... Kindest Regards, Paul On Thu, 16 Feb 2017, Timothy Sipples wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:40:02 +0800 From: Timothy Sipples <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Oracle under z/VM w

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread Timothy Sipples
For another "bizarre" answer, this path might work: 1. Obtain z86VM (beta) from Mantissa Corporation; 2. Obtain Microsoft Windows from Microsoft; 3. Install and run Microsoft Windows on z86VM on z/VM; 4. Obtain Oracle Database for Windows from Oracle; 5. Install and run Oracle Database for

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread Duerbusch, Tom
Dreaming... When Oracle was supported under VM, it was VM/SP. It was 24 bit code. I also want to say it was in 370 mode which, I think, has long since bit the dust in the CMS world. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:27 AM, David Boyes wrote: > >

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
We tested Oracle on z/VM at my former customer's site; this must have been version 5.x - the time frame in the end 199x years. We had to drop it, because performance was so bad. The problem was that the different Oracle processes that make up the Oracle database were implemented as different VM

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread Paul Flint
.EDU> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux? Am I dreaming to assume that Oracle would actually=20 support 7 on a current z/VM? Probably not. I'm sure if you a) managed to find a copy, and b) threw large bales of cash at them, they'd find a way, but Oracle 7 was lo

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-15 Thread David Boyes
> Am I dreaming to assume that Oracle would actually=20 support 7 on a current > z/VM? Probably not. I'm sure if you a) managed to find a copy, and b) threw large bales of cash at them, they'd find a way, but Oracle 7 was long, long ago. I doubt any modern application would be able to connect

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-14 Thread Timothy Sipples
Oracle Database up through 10g R2 *can* run under z/VM without Linux. I'm referring to Oracle Database 10g R2 for z/OS, and of course z/OS can run on z/VM very well indeed. Hypothetically, Oracle or an authorized Oracle remarketer could ship Oracle Database in virtual "appliance" form for z/VM,

Re: Oracle under z/VM without Linux?

2017-02-14 Thread Paul Flint
Dear David, Thanks. You Sine-Nomine-Associates are clearly wise folks with a whole lot of experience... Am I dreaming to assume that Oracle would actually support 7 on a current zVM? Regards, Flint On Tue, 14 Feb 2017, David Boyes wrote: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:14:15 + From: