[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-21 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: Cool. The Root/Dpram in your 2003-11-08 DVB snapshot is the same as the ones I extracted from dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz currently on the website. So its definitely not that; I just wanted to make ABSOLUTELY sure it wasn't some build issue. I'm assuming your

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-21 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: Cool. The Root/Dpram in your 2003-11-08 DVB snapshot is the same as the ones I extracted from dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz currently on the website. So its definitely not that; I just wanted to make ABSOLUTELY sure it wasn't some build

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-21 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Heino Goldenstein wrote: Hello Klaus, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Saturday 20 March 2004 16:42, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: From the Dpram checksums I can say that the first one is the one from 2003-09-05, and the

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-21 Thread Heino Goldenstein
Hello Klaus, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Heino Goldenstein wrote: ---8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8--- FWIW: I reviewed your e-mails to understand your SAT-hardwaresetup. From your descriptions I guess you have something like this: some ASCII art:

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-21 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Heino Goldenstein wrote: Hello Klaus, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Heino Goldenstein wrote: ---8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8--- FWIW: I reviewed your e-mails to understand your SAT-hardwaresetup. From your descriptions I guess you have something like

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-21 Thread Robert Schlabbach
From: Heino Goldenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] I reviewed your e-mails to understand your SAT-hardwaresetup. From your descriptions I guess you have something like this: some ASCII art:--- |Switch 1 | |E0 10 38

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-21 Thread Heino Goldenstein
Hello Klaus, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: ---8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8--- S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] W100 [E0 10 38 F0] S19.2E 9 V 10600 v [E0 10 38 F0] W100 [E0 10 38 F1] S19.2E 11700 H 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] W100 [E0 10 38 F2] S19.2E 9

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-21 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Robert Schlabbach wrote: From: Heino Goldenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] W100 [E0 10 38 F0] S19.2E 9 V 10600 v [E0 10 38 F0] W100 [E0 10 38 F1] Sorry, but - wouldn't the second part of this line reconfigure the Relay? I'd say this command switches

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-21 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Heino Goldenstein wrote: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v A W100 [E0 10 38 F0] This still violates the spec. Burst must come after DiSEqC message: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 Johannes -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe linux-dvb as

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: its not the firmware. its not the frontend driver (that was a different issue). well, pretty obvious where it has to be really; must be a card setup problem in the OSS code. I'll have a closer check over the next few days. Like I

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
the actual DiSEqC signal is generated fom inside the firmware. But since the firmware hasn't changed between the latest DVB driver and dvb-kernel (at least as far as i know) I would assume that the actual signal the firmware generates should still be the same. Unless, of course, some other

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: the actual DiSEqC signal is generated fom inside the firmware. But since the firmware hasn't changed between the latest DVB driver and dvb-kernel (at least as far as i know) I would assume that the actual signal the firmware generates should still be the same.

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
This change was done to avoid glitches in recordings on the primary device in case the channel is switched. Does it change anyting (DiSEqC wise) if you comment that line out? No idea, sorry, I only have budget cards; I'm just suggesting things. -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: This change was done to avoid glitches in recordings on the primary device in case the channel is switched. Does it change anyting (DiSEqC wise) if you comment that line out? No idea, sorry, I only have budget cards; I'm just suggesting things. I tried it now,

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
Incidentally, even though the firmwares used by 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 have the same version number, they are _not_ the same. 1.0.0 had two seperate files, Dpram and Root 1.1.0 has a combined file, dvb-ttpci-01.fw However the file format of dvb-ttpci-01.fw is obvious: 4 byte magic 4 byte number

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Saturday 20 March 2004 15:26, Andrew de Quincey wrote: Incidentally, even though the firmwares used by 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 have the same version number, they are _not_ the same. 1.0.0 had two seperate files, Dpram and Root 1.1.0 has a combined file, dvb-ttpci-01.fw Actually maybe I have a

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: Incidentally, even though the firmwares used by 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 have the same version number, they are _not_ the same. 1.0.0 had two seperate files, Dpram and Root 1.1.0 has a combined file, dvb-ttpci-01.fw However the file format of dvb-ttpci-01.fw is obvious:

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Saturday 20 March 2004 15:26, Andrew de Quincey wrote: Incidentally, even though the firmwares used by 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 have the same version number, they are _not_ the same. 1.0.0 had two seperate files, Dpram and Root 1.1.0 has a combined file,

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Mattia Rossi
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:35:37 +0100 Klaus Schmidinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the file http://linuxtv.org/download/dvb/dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz now contains the latest firmware version (the previous file was not gzipped). Klaus FYI there's a tool in the scripts folder of the

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Saturday 20 March 2004 15:34, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: Incidentally, even though the firmwares used by 1.0.0 and 1.1.0 have the same version number, they are _not_ the same. 1.0.0 had two seperate files, Dpram and Root 1.1.0 has a combined file,

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
From the Dpram checksums I can say that the first one is the one from 2003-09-05, and the second one is the one which is in the 2003-11-08 driver package in my VDR FTP archive. So which is the one you tried in the 1.1.0 driver that had the same firmware version? I'm trying to help you: the

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: From the Dpram checksums I can say that the first one is the one from 2003-09-05, and the second one is the one which is in the 2003-11-08 driver package in my VDR FTP archive. So which is the one you tried in the 1.1.0 driver that had the same firmware

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Saturday 20 March 2004 16:42, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: From the Dpram checksums I can say that the first one is the one from 2003-09-05, and the second one is the one which is in the 2003-11-08 driver package in my VDR FTP archive. So which is the one

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Saturday 20 March 2004 16:42, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: From the Dpram checksums I can say that the first one is the one from 2003-09-05, and the second one is the one which is in the 2003-11-08 driver package in my VDR FTP

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
Cool. The Root/Dpram in your 2003-11-08 DVB snapshot is the same as the ones I extracted from dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz currently on the website. So its definitely not that; I just wanted to make ABSOLUTELY sure it wasn't some build issue. I'm assuming your 2003-11-08 snapshot works for your

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Helmut Auer
Andrew de Quincey wrote: Cool. The Root/Dpram in your 2003-11-08 DVB snapshot is the same as the ones I extracted from dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz currently on the website. So its definitely not that; I just wanted to make ABSOLUTELY sure it wasn't some build issue. I'm assuming your 2003-11-08 snapshot

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Saturday 20 March 2004 19:29, Helmut Auer wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: Cool. The Root/Dpram in your 2003-11-08 DVB snapshot is the same as the ones I extracted from dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz currently on the website. So its definitely not that; I just wanted to make ABSOLUTELY sure it wasn't

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Heino Goldenstein
Hello Klaus, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Saturday 20 March 2004 16:42, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: From the Dpram checksums I can say that the first one is the one from 2003-09-05, and the second one is the one which is in

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Andrew de Quincey wrote: Cool. The Root/Dpram in your 2003-11-08 DVB snapshot is the same as the ones I extracted from dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz currently on the website. So its definitely not that; I just wanted to make ABSOLUTELY sure it wasn't some build issue. I'm assuming your

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Saturday 20 March 2004 21:15, Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: Cool. The Root/Dpram in your 2003-11-08 DVB snapshot is the same as the ones I extracted from dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz currently on the website. So its definitely not that; I just wanted to make ABSOLUTELY

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Oliver Endriss
On Saturday 20 March 2004 20:41, Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Saturday 20 March 2004 19:29, Helmut Auer wrote: I only tested for about 10 minutes now with switching hw_sections from 0 to 1 and vice versa. It looks like diseqc is much better with hw_sections=0 ! Anyway once or twice it took

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Andreas Share
Cool. The Root/Dpram in your 2003-11-08 DVB snapshot is the same as the ones I extracted from dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz currently on the website. So its definitely not that; I just wanted to make ABSOLUTELY sure it wasn't some build issue. I'm assuming your 2003-11-08 snapshot works for your

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Andrew de Quincey wrote: But why does it break DISEQC as well? DiSEqC is implemented using a timer irq in the firmware. And hardware section filters cause some ARM CPU load (as do TS filters). Of course, while tuning there is no signal and the load should be zero. But some frontends just

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Heino Goldenstein
Hello Andreas, Andreas Share wrote: Cool. The Root/Dpram in your 2003-11-08 DVB snapshot is the same as the ones I extracted from dvb-ttpci-01.fw.gz currently on the website. So its definitely not that; I just wanted to make ABSOLUTELY sure it wasn't some build issue. I'm

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: From what I can see in the driver source, on AV7110 based cards the actual DiSEqC signal is generated fom inside the firmware. But since the firmware hasn't changed between the latest DVB driver and dvb-kernel (at least as far as i know) I would assume that the

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-20 Thread Oliver Endriss
On Saturday 20 March 2004 23:07, Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: But why does it break DISEQC as well? DiSEqC is implemented using a timer irq in the firmware. Well, this will work only if there is no other interrupt load. Otherwise the timer interrupt processing

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-19 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Andrew de Quincey wrote: its not the firmware. its not the frontend driver (that was a different issue). well, pretty obvious where it has to be really; must be a card setup problem in the OSS code. I'll have a closer check over the next few days. Like I said before, DiSEqC was always

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-16 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: Ok, so I have changed the DiSEqC setup in my VDR to S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-16 Thread Andrew de Quincey
The firmware that was originally on linuxtv.org for use with dvb-kernel 1.1.0 had version 0x261a, and thus was exactly the same as used in dv-kernel 1.0.1. So from what I can see the problem is definitely not in the firmware, because with the exact same firmware the DVB driver works fine

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-15 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Holger Waechtler wrote: On Monday 15 March 2004 00:13, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Holger Waechtler wrote: The DiSEqC spec requires you to set the appropriate bus voltage before a DiSEqC command is sent. It also requires that the old-style SEC and DiSEqC commands are sent compatibly,

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-15 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Holger Waechtler wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:55, Andrew de Quincey wrote: The problem with 1.1.0 is VDR isn't doing the full DISEQC init sequence, and so no voltage was ever being sent to the LNB. that's

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-15 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Ok, so I have changed the DiSEqC setup in my VDR to S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-15 Thread Andrew de Quincey
Ok, so I have changed the DiSEqC setup in my VDR to S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 H 10600 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F3] W15 A W15 T which

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-15 Thread Heino Goldenstein
Hello, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Holger Waechtler wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:55, Andrew de Quincey wrote: The problem with 1.1.0 is VDR isn't doing the full DISEQC init sequence, and so no voltage was ever

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-15 Thread Oliver Endriss
On Monday 15 March 2004 17:55, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Ok, so I have changed the DiSEqC setup in my VDR to S19.2E 11700 V 9750 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] W15 A W15 t S19.2E 9 V 10600 t v W15 [E0 10 38 F1] W15 A W15 T S19.2E 11700 H 9750 t V W15 [E0 10 38 F2] W15 A W15 t S19.2E

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Heino Goldenstein
Hello Alfred, Alfred Zastrow wrote: ---8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8--- S13E11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] ^ this is nessesary to put power on the sat-cable. The old driver had power on by default. Good multiswitches with externel power

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Helmut Auer
Hello, S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] S19.2E 9 V 10600 v [E0 10 38 F1] S19.2E 11700 H 9750 v [E0 10 38 F2] S19.2E 9 H 10600 v [E0 10 38 F3] S13.0E 11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F4] S13.0E 9 V 10600 v [E0 10 38 F5] S13.0E 11700 H 9750 v [E0 10 38 F6] S13.0E 9 H

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Robert Schlabbach
From: Heino Goldenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] So this is what you have to do if you want to use DiSEqC only: You forgot an important step: - Put power on the sat-cable to wake up the switch *WAIT* at least 100ms for the switch to power up, as per the DiSEqC specification. - Put DiSEqC-command

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Robert Schlabbach
From: Heino Goldenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helmut Auer wrote: These settings are not working for me, but the long version from Oliver will: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] ... maybe your sat-cable does not transmit the DiSEqC-command reliable and it

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Heino Goldenstein
Hallo Robert, Robert Schlabbach wrote: From: Heino Goldenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] So this is what you have to do if you want to use DiSEqC only: You forgot an important step: - Put power on the sat-cable to wake up the switch *WAIT* at least 100ms for the switch to power up, as per

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Helmut Auer
Hi, The diseqc settings: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] is not working perfectly. Sometimes when switching from h to v or vice versa its not working. Then I added W15: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] and this seems to work

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Helmut Auer
Hi, One ( hopefully ) last point: It often happens after startup the first channel is not displayed by vdr, that means, I have to switch once and the everything works fine. Is that a vdr or dvb problem ? -- Helmut Auer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Helmut Auer wrote: Hi, The diseqc settings: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] is not working perfectly. Sometimes when switching from h to v or vice versa its not working. Then I added W15: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v W15 [E0 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] [E1 10

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Helmut Auer wrote: Hi, One ( hopefully ) last point: It often happens after startup the first channel is not displayed by vdr, that means, I have to switch once and the everything works fine. Is that a vdr or dvb problem ? If DiSEqC switching doesn't work reliably I'd say it's a DVB

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Oliver Endriss
On Sunday 14 March 2004 10:27, Robert Schlabbach wrote: From: Heino Goldenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helmut Auer wrote: These settings are not working for me, but the long version from Oliver will: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] [E1 10 38 F0] ... maybe your

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
The two combinations below are working with the _unmodified_ ves1x93 code and also with my alps_bsvr2 mod. S13E11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] S13E9 V 10600 v [E0 10 38 F1] S13E11700 H 9750 v [E0 10 38 F2] S13E9 H 10600 v [E0 10 38 F3] S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v [E0 10

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: The two combinations below are working with the _unmodified_ ves1x93 code and also with my alps_bsvr2 mod. S13E11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] S13E9 V 10600 v [E0 10 38 F1] S13E11700 H 9750 v [E0 10 38 F2] S13E9 H 10600 v [E0 10 38

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Sunday 14 March 2004 13:35, you wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: The two combinations below are working with the _unmodified_ ves1x93 code and also with my alps_bsvr2 mod. S13E11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] S13E9 V 10600 v [E0 10 38 F1] S13E11700 H 9750 v [E0

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: I get you, its the 'v'. Previously the driver was turning voltage on when it started up, so power was being supplied, whereas now by default leaves it off. So this means VDR should turn the voltage _on_ upon startup, right? I don't

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: I get you, its the 'v'. Previously the driver was turning voltage on when it started up, so power was being supplied, whereas now by default leaves it off. So this means VDR should turn the voltage

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:02, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: There are some mandatory delays before and after sending the DiSEqC sequence. The Nokia API rolled all that in a simple and convenient ioctl which would allow the driver to do all the timing (so that applications cannot fuck up), but

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Johannes Stezenbach wrote: It doesn't make much sense to remove the power from the LNB while sending the DiSEqC sequence, but luckily vdr doesn't seem to do that ;-) So, I guess that 'v' is a no-op. 'v' means voltage low (13V) 'V' means voltage high (18V)

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Sunday 14 March 2004 14:45, Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 13:35, you wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: The two combinations below are working with the _unmodified_ ves1x93 code and also with my alps_bsvr2 mod. S13E11700 V 9750 v [E0 10 38 F0] S13E

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Sunday 14 March 2004 13:11, Oliver Endriss wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 10:27, Robert Schlabbach wrote: From: Heino Goldenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helmut Auer wrote: These settings are not working for me, but the long version from Oliver will: S19.2E 11700 V 9750 v

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:22, Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Johannes Stezenbach wrote: It doesn't make much sense to remove the power from the LNB while sending the DiSEqC sequence, but luckily vdr doesn't seem to do that ;-) So, I guess that 'v' is a no-op.

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:27, Holger Waechtler wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 13:11, Oliver Endriss wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 10:27, Robert Schlabbach wrote: From: Heino Goldenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] Helmut Auer wrote: These settings are not working for me, but the long

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Holger Waechtler wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:02, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: There are some mandatory delays before and after sending the DiSEqC sequence. The Nokia API rolled all that in a simple and convenient ioctl which would allow the driver to do all the timing (so that

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:22, Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Johannes Stezenbach wrote: It doesn't make much sense to remove the power from the LNB while sending the DiSEqC sequence, but luckily vdr doesn't seem to do that ;-) So, I guess that 'v' is a no-op.

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:35, Andrew de Quincey wrote: If you specify a bus voltage of 13 or 18V you definitely don't mean VOLTAGE_OFF but expect the LNBP working, everything else is a bug. Yeah, it seemed to have changed from being set to VOLTAGE_13 in the initialisation tables to being

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Johannes Stezenbach wrote: It doesn't make much sense to remove the power from the LNB while sending the DiSEqC sequence, but luckily vdr doesn't seem to do that ;-) So, I guess that 'v' is a no-op. 'v' means voltage low

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:36, Holger Waechtler wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:35, Andrew de Quincey wrote: If you specify a bus voltage of 13 or 18V you definitely don't mean VOLTAGE_OFF but expect the LNBP working, everything else is a bug. Yeah, it seemed to have changed from

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:38, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: When I compiled the latest VDR developer version with the dvb-kernel header files, everything compiled just fine - so I would assume that there was no change in the API (besides, it has always been emphasized that the API did not change

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
When I compiled the latest VDR developer version with the dvb-kernel header files, everything compiled just fine - so I would assume that there was no change in the API (besides, it has always been emphasized that the API did not change between DVB and dvb-kernel). Sendeing DiSEqC codes in

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Holger Waechtler wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:35, Andrew de Quincey wrote: If you specify a bus voltage of 13 or 18V you definitely don't mean VOLTAGE_OFF but expect the LNBP working, everything else is a bug. Yeah, it seemed to have changed from being set to VOLTAGE_13 in the

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:46, Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:36, Holger Waechtler wrote: As soon you submit the polarisation selection command (VOLTAGE_13V or VOLTAGE_18V) you already powered up the LNB. The only important thing is to maintain the delay times

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Nokia specified the ioctl to run asynchronous, which causes some headaches for implementation. The current API also is more flexible and simpler, but forces every programmer to scrutinize the DiSEqC spec to use it right. The old API

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:47, Holger Waechtler wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:46, Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:36, Holger Waechtler wrote: As soon you submit the polarisation selection command (VOLTAGE_13V or VOLTAGE_18V) you already powered up the LNB. The only

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Johannes Stezenbach wrote: Nokia specified the ioctl to run asynchronous, which causes some headaches for implementation. The current API also is more flexible and simpler, but forces every programmer to scrutinize the DiSEqC

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:47, Holger Waechtler wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:46, Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:36, Holger Waechtler wrote: As soon you submit the polarisation selection command (VOLTAGE_13V or VOLTAGE_18V) you

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andreas Oberritter
Hi, On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 23:46, Andrew de Quincey wrote: I suppose its a matter of how tolerant we want to be of userspace programs.. I mean, we already turn OFF the LNB power automatically, why not turn it on as well? I don't care much, but please don't change the voltage setting in the

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:45, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Holger Waechtler wrote: As soon you submit the polarisation selection command (VOLTAGE_13V or VOLTAGE_18V) you already powered up the LNB. The only important thing is to maintain the delay times required by the spec, the diseqc.c

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
As of version 1.3.6 VDR explicitly turns on the LNB power at startup (which I believe the driver should do when the frontend is opened), but that didn't fix the actual DiSEqC problem (unreliable switching). Odd. It seems to have fixed it for some people. I can't really do much else I'm

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:55, Andrew de Quincey wrote: The problem with 1.1.0 is VDR isn't doing the full DISEQC init sequence, and so no voltage was ever being sent to the LNB. that's definitely illegal. Holger -- Info: To unsubscribe send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Oliver Endriss
On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:58, Johannes Stezenbach wrote: - turn off 22KHz - set voltage to 13V or 18V - send DiSEqC sequence insert 'send tone-burst' here - if necessary turn on 22KHz This sequence is defined in section 'Combined Transmission of DiSEqC and Backward-Compatible Signals'. If

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andreas Oberritter wrote: Hi, On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 23:46, Andrew de Quincey wrote: I suppose its a matter of how tolerant we want to be of userspace programs.. I mean, we already turn OFF the LNB power automatically, why not turn it on as well? I don't care much, but please don't

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Johannes Stezenbach
On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 11:05:50PM +, Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Sunday 14 March 2004 22:58, Andreas Oberritter wrote: However, I don't like that idea. It makes it impossible to stay at 0V, when the frontend is connected to a loop through output of another receiver, which shall not

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Monday 15 March 2004 00:13, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Holger Waechtler wrote: The DiSEqC spec requires you to set the appropriate bus voltage before a DiSEqC command is sent. It also requires that the old-style SEC and DiSEqC commands are sent compatibly, the behaviour of switches,

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:15, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andreas Oberritter wrote: Hi, On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 23:46, Andrew de Quincey wrote: I suppose its a matter of how tolerant we want to be of userspace programs.. I mean, we already turn OFF the LNB power automatically, why not

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Holger Waechtler
On Monday 15 March 2004 00:27, Andrew de Quincey wrote: So there must still be a change in the av7110 code, which does the DISEQC on your card. As far as I can see none of the other changes to ves1x83 should break anything. Just that there were _two_ driver issues here complicated the matter.

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-14 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Sunday 14 March 2004 23:31, Holger Waechtler wrote: On Monday 15 March 2004 00:27, Andrew de Quincey wrote: So there must still be a change in the av7110 code, which does the DISEQC on your card. As far as I can see none of the other changes to ves1x83 should break anything. Just that

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: OK, this is getting far too confusing. Need to summarise this: We're trying two types of DVB-S-fullfeatured cards: the 1.3 and the 1.6 The 1.3 works fine with the alps_bsrv2(101) driver The 1.3 fails with the ves1x93(110) (polarisation switching) The 1.3 fails

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Alfred Zastrow
Andrew de Quincey schrieb: OK, this is getting far too confusing. Need to summarise this: We're trying two types of DVB-S-fullfeatured cards: the 1.3 and the 1.6 The 1.3 works fine with the alps_bsrv2(101) driver The 1.3 fails with the ves1x93(110) (polarisation switching) The 1.3 fails with

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Saturday 13 March 2004 15:00, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: OK, this is getting far too confusing. Need to summarise this: We're trying two types of DVB-S-fullfeatured cards: the 1.3 and the 1.6 The 1.3 works fine with the alps_bsrv2(101) driver The 1.3 fails

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Saturday 13 March 2004 15:00, you wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: OK, this is getting far too confusing. Need to summarise this: We're trying two types of DVB-S-fullfeatured cards: the 1.3 and the 1.6 The 1.3 works fine with the alps_bsrv2(101) driver The 1.3 fails with the

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Saturday 13 March 2004 15:32, you wrote: On Saturday 13 March 2004 15:00, you wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: OK, this is getting far too confusing. Need to summarise this: We're trying two types of DVB-S-fullfeatured cards: the 1.3 and the 1.6 The 1.3 works fine with the

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Andrew de Quincey wrote: On Saturday 13 March 2004 15:00, you wrote: Andrew de Quincey wrote: OK, this is getting far too confusing. Need to summarise this: We're trying two types of DVB-S-fullfeatured cards: the 1.3 and the 1.6 The 1.3 works fine with the alps_bsrv2(101)

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Alfred Zastrow
Andrew de Quincey schrieb: Index: linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ves1x93.c === RCS file: /cvs/linuxtv/dvb-kernel/linux/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ves1x93.c,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 ves1x93.c ---

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Alfred Zastrow
Alfred Zastrow schrieb: Copy the alps_bsrv2.c and compat.h from the DVB-tree to build-2.4 Attached is a errorfree compiling diff against dvb-kernel from today witch revivals the old alps_bsrv2 frontend driver. If you want to use it, don't load the ves1x93.o. For me it works pretty realible

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Andrew de Quincey
On Saturday 13 March 2004 17:28, you wrote: Alfred Zastrow schrieb: Copy the alps_bsrv2.c and compat.h from the DVB-tree to build-2.4 Attached is a errorfree compiling diff against dvb-kernel from today witch revivals the old alps_bsrv2 frontend driver. If you want to use it, don't load

[linux-dvb] Re: Full featured card summary

2004-03-13 Thread Andreas Oberritter
On Sat, 2004-03-13 at 19:12, Andrew de Quincey wrote: Can someone try the attached patch (against CVS HEAD). It returns most of the values to how they were previously. There are a few left changed, but I don't want to go too fast. in ves1x93_attach() 'state' is a local variable and you are

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