Re: about size optimizations (Re: Not as much ccache win as I expected)

2008-06-15 Thread Jamie Lokier
David Woodhouse wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 10:56 +0100, Oleg Verych wrote: I saw that. My point is pure text processing. But as it seems doing `make` is a lot more fun than to do `sh` `sed`. The problem is that it _isn't_ pure text processing. There's more to building with --combine

Re: about size optimizations (Re: Not as much ccache win as I expected)

2008-06-15 Thread Oleg Verych
You can do this without changin the Makefile, if you provide suitable scripts on $PATH for the make. I want to add here whole issue of kbuild's way of dependency calculation and rebuild technique. 1) This whole infrastructure is needed only for developers. But developer while writing/updating

Re: Not as much ccache win as I expected

2008-06-15 Thread Jörn Engel
On Fri, 13 June 2008 14:10:29 -0700, Tim Bird wrote: Maybe I should just be grateful for any ccache hits I get. ccache's usefulness depends on your workload. If you make a change to include/linux/fs.h, close to 100% of the kernel is rebuilt, with or without ccache. But when you revert that

Re: Kernel boot problem on IXP422 Rev. A

2008-06-15 Thread Rob Landley
On Friday 13 June 2008 15:05:54 Tim Bird wrote: Rob, This is an excellent and concise description of the open source perspective on the problem. I'll add just one note below. Rob Landley wrote: 1) Try to reproduce the bug under a current kernel. (Set up a _test_ system.) This sounds

Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), [EMAIL PROTECTED] list

2008-06-15 Thread Rob Landley
On Sunday 15 June 2008 10:39:43 Leon Woestenberg wrote: Hello all, On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:41 AM, Rob Landley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most packages don't cross compile at all. Debian has somewhere north of 30,000 packages. Every project that does large scale cross compiling

Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), [EMAIL PROTECTED] list

2008-06-15 Thread Rob Landley
On Thursday 12 June 2008 13:18:07 Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Rob Landley [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Hi, There's also qemu. You can native build under emulation. did you ever consider that crosscompiling is not only good for some other arch, but a few more things ? Sure, such as building a

Re: cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...)

2008-06-15 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Jamie Lokier [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: A trouble with that is some packages have hundreds of user-selectable options - or even thousands. It is unfeasible to use --enable-foo options for all of those when configuring then. Well, not that much ;-o But taking care of such feature switches

Re: cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...)

2008-06-15 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Jamie Lokier [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Media players with lots of optional formats and drivers are another. (They also have considerable problems with their Autoconf in my experience). You probably mean their hand-written ./configure script, which is intentionally incompatible w/ autoconf