Re: IW2K

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Shaul Karl wrote: > > > > When can we meet ? Are you in Tel-Aviv area ? > > > > I live in Tel-Aviv (pretty close to the junction of Dizingof and Ben-Gurion). > We can meet on Tuesday or Wednesday at about 19:30, on Thursday (perhaps at > the Jerusalem group meeting?) or sometime at Friday morning

RE: [iglu] Re: IW2K

2000-03-13 Thread Chen Shapira
> OK. Let's set the meeting in Tuesday at 19:30. I suggest we meet in > LinuxQA offices ( The equipment is due to be here, too, so > maybe we can > also install it! ) . It is In the Bursa area in Ramat-Gan, > foot access > from Rakevet Merkaz, so it is easy for anyone not from Tel-Aviv to > g

RE: CDRW

2000-03-13 Thread El-al, Netta
similar thing happened to my brother yesterday. he installed mandrake 7.0 from cdr and then supermount and regular mounting didn't work. said /dev/hdd is not a valid block device. i played around with his computer a little and noticed some reference to /dev/scd0 (even though he doesn't have an act

Re: True 64 Unix ?

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Ariel Biener wrote: > > About your Solaris vs. Tru64, I don't see how you wanna compare these. > Solaris runs on x86 and Sparc platforms. Tru64 runs on Alphas. What do you > want to compare exactly ? If you want to buy a strong Workstation, it is obvious you will want to compare several solution

Re: True 64 Unix ?

2000-03-13 Thread Ariel Biener
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ury Segal wrote: > If you want to buy a strong Workstation, it is obvious you will > want to compare several solutions. Since both Sun and Compaq (Digital) > offer ones, it makes perfect sense to compare their solutions as a whole, > the CPU itself only a part of the comparis

Re: True 64 Unix ?

2000-03-13 Thread Yaron Zabary
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ariel Biener wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ury Segal wrote: > > > If you want to buy a strong Workstation, it is obvious you will > > want to compare several solutions. Since both Sun and Compaq (Digital) > > offer ones, it makes perfect sense to compare their solutions as a

Re: True 64 Unix ?

2000-03-13 Thread Alex Landsberg
>--- Felix Shvaiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's off-topic, but may be somebody knows what is 'True > 64 Unix' > (Compaq/Digital - Alpha). > What is good? What is bad? > Linux vs. 'True 64 Unix' on Alpha (I know Linux is FREE, > but...) > Solaris vs 'True 64 Unix' ? > Any references? Any comm

Re: True 64 Unix ?

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Khayutin
The only big advantage of Tru64 Unix on Linux/Solaris, I know of is a great SMP support and a great, built-in, support for clustering (if I am not mistaken). --- Felix Shvaiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's off-topic, but may be somebody knows what is > 'True 64 Unix' > (Compaq/Digital - Alph

Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Khayutin
Hi list, Somtimes, if the design we used to create the wheel is old and and with more and more feautres has been added to it the wheel becomes unuseful, then we should reinvent it from the base. But this is not the case, a there is already editors in linux as AbiWord it is a really better option

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Chen Shapira
> there is already editors in linux as AbiWord it is a > really better option to addd hebrew support to them, > why isrealy users should other editors, what have they > done bad? A better question would be: Why do Israeli users have to use abiword, they certainly don't deserve it! Its pretty br

Re: True 64 Unix ?

2000-03-13 Thread Mike
There is one other thing which i don't know if it was mentioned here. The DigitalUNIX comes build in with the ADFS which has nice performance. For Sun you will have to perches the DiskManager(or something) in order to recive the extra options as raid ect'. For linux i'm not sure. Mike - Ori

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: > A better option I think is to add hebrew > support, build-in, into GTK+. That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole right left problem entirely within a variant on the Gtk+ text-widget. Are there any Gtk+ hackers here who w

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Moshe Zadka wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: > > > A better option I think is to add hebrew > > support, build-in, into GTK+. > > That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole > right left problem entirely within a variant on the Gtk+ text-widget. It i

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Chen Shapira
> > It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. > I want an editor. editor as in emacs/vim? is it going to have a hebrew gui or just hebrew font+bidi support? Thanks, Chen. -- Chen ShapiraWeb Developer and Linux Activist "Preliminary operational tests were inconclusi

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Chen Shapira wrote: > > > > It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. > > I want an editor. > > editor as in emacs/vim? No. Editor as in MS WordPad. > > is it going to have a hebrew gui or just hebrew font+bidi support? All hebrew. Even hebrew puns. > > > Thanks, > Chen

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ury Segal wrote: [About a hebrew enabled text-widget] > It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. > I want an editor. I disagree -- it has been proven (IDLE) writing an editor is easy if you have a good text-widget. I dare say it will not be hard writi

RE: True 64 Unix ?

2000-03-13 Thread Avi Koski
The ADVFS as bundled with Tru64 UNIX has some basic features, that do not need a license. But if you need to use the realy usefull features, like adding a volume to an existing domain, you need to install another subset (ADVFS Utilities) which have to be licensed. Avi -Original Message-

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Moshe Zadka wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ury Segal wrote: > > [About a hebrew enabled text-widget] > > It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. > > I want an editor. > > I disagree -- it has been proven (IDLE) writing an editor is easy if you > have a good text-widget. N

GTK+ BiDi text widget (was: Reinventing the wheel)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 01:54:01PM +0200, Moshe Zadka wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: > > > A better option I think is to add hebrew > > support, build-in, into GTK+. > > That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole > right left problem entirely with

Israeli source for Linux compatible 56K modem.

2000-03-13 Thread Yaacov Fenster - System Engineering Troubleshooting and other miracles
There has been discussion in the past with regard to 56K modem's that will work under Linux. Could somebody please point me to a model that can be purchased in Israel ? Dealer information would be most welcome also... Thankx in advance Yaacov

Re: True 64 Unix ?

2000-03-13 Thread Alex Landsberg
--- Ilya Khayutin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only big advantage of Tru64 Unix on Linux/Solaris, > I know of is a great SMP support and a great, > built-in, support for clustering (if I am not > mistaken). Check http://www.unix.digital.com/cluster/ Alex = Alex Landsberg [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Khayutin
I was working a little bit on the topic (the gtk+ coders & the gimp ones put where really interested to make internalization and I was the only guy from Israel at hand, so they volunteered me), if somebody will provide more help in this, so we can really go to the coding phase, this will be great.

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Khayutin
I was talking about full hebrew support, built-in into gtk+. Not only a bidi widget but also give the ability to create a hebrew UI and so on... This is what we really need for Linux hebrew support. There more applications then a text editor, a common isrealy user will also want more programs with

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote about "Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)": > I was working a little bit on the topic (the gtk+ > coders & the gimp ones put where really interested to > make internalization and I was the only guy from > Israel at hand, so they volunteered me)

Re: set_multmode

2000-03-13 Thread Jonathan Ben-Avraham
On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, Henry Ficher wrote: > Hi List: > > After cloning my old disk with Ghost to a slightly bigger one, I'm > getting the following messages every time I boot : > > Mar 12 22:49:49 Xitlali kernel: hda:hda: set_multmode: status=0x51 { > DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > Mar 12 22

open source article

2000-03-13 Thread TonStanco
Hi, I write an Internet Business Law column for Internet.com's Boardwatch magazine . I'm writing a series of articles on open source and I'd like to get community feedback for my next article dealing with the question below. Can you post this or email your group members? If they want to resp

Re: open source article

2000-03-13 Thread Ely Levy
it doesn't look at BSD licence in example.. GNU is not only open source but free information look at the philosophy section of www.gnu.org Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Hi, | | I write an Internet Business Law

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
Why can't hebrew support be part of general-use products? MS Office2000 comes to mind as a proof that it can be done. The main missing piece is to add support into the graphics tool-kit (i.e. gtk, qt). If you want to translate the user interface you don't need anything else. Actually - if you wo

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Why can't hebrew support be part of general-use products? MS Office2000 > comes to mind as a proof that it can be done. Do you know the difference between how much MS Office 2000 development costs was versus how much Israely people are willing to invent in Hebrew support f

Re: [iglu] Re: IW2K

2000-03-13 Thread Shaul Karl
> > OK. Let's set the meeting in Tuesday at 19:30. I suggest we meet in > LinuxQA offices ( The equipment is due to be here, too, so maybe we can > also install it! ) . It is In the Bursa area in Ramat-Gan, foot access > from Rakevet Merkaz, so it is easy for anyone not from Tel-Aviv to > get h

Re: [iglu] Re: IW2K

2000-03-13 Thread Shaul Karl
> > > OK. Let's set the meeting in Tuesday at 19:30. I suggest we meet in > > LinuxQA offices ( The equipment is due to be here, too, so > > maybe we can > > also install it! ) . It is In the Bursa area in Ramat-Gan, > > foot access > > from Rakevet Merkaz, so it is easy for anyone not from T

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:30:02PM +0200, Ury Segal wrote: > So, we need a simple hebrew editor, that will enable someone to write > a letter to his bank. Would gnp do? As I've told, the GTK+ bidi hack already provides pretty reasonable hebrew support for simple text editing (not rich). -- Best

[off topic] Compiling Solaris 2.6 binaries on Solaris 7

2000-03-13 Thread Alexander Indenbaum
Hi! What is the way to compile Solaris 2.6 binaries under Solaris 7. I hope there is no need to buy 2.6 just for that :{). Thank you in advance for your help. Alexander Indenbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mai

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
CS>> A better question would be: Why do Israeli users have to use CS>> abiword, they certainly don't deserve it! Its pretty broken! It's not broken, it's undeveloped. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
US>> I dare you. Show me how you write a RTL-LTR text on a non US>> RTL-LTR widget; or just show me good RTL-LTR widget. Qtext did this on DOS, which is not an RTL-LTR widget. US>> OR, show me a good Text widget. There isn't even ONE decent US>> Text Widget, let alone LTR-RTL. Show me a Text wid

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Herouth Maoz
At 06:17 -0800 on 13/03/2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: >I was talking about full hebrew support, built-in into >gtk+. Not only a bidi widget but also give the ability >to create a hebrew UI and so on... This is what we >really need for Linux hebrew support. If I may add my 2c to the discussion. If

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Shaul Karl
> Moshe Zadka wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: > > > > > A better option I think is to add hebrew > > > support, build-in, into GTK+. > > > > That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole > > right left problem entirely within a variant on the Gtk+

Re: open source article

2000-03-13 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > QUESTION: > > I believe that Open Source is a very important freedom movement, because, > like Harvard's Professor Lessig says, code is law, but with a non-human > police force. With closed code, we'll all be prisoners in the very near > future.

Re: [Fwd: IW2K flyers]

2000-03-13 Thread Shaul Karl
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --5B45A5CCDD83DCBE55B83FB0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am trying to coordinating IGLU preparations for IW2K instead of Ira. That is why I was forward your message. You are encoura

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Why can't hebrew support be part of general-use products? MS Office2000 > comes to mind as a proof that it can be done. > > The main missing piece is to add support into the graphics tool-kit (i.e. > gtk, qt). This won't help for a word processor.

"showers" list for IGLU booth on IW2K.

2000-03-13 Thread Shaul Karl
Show will be on 28, 29, 30, 11am-8pm. My list contain the following lines for people at the booth is as follows: 1) Guy Keren: 29th full day 2) Shaul Karl: 28th + 29th full day 3) Neer Friedman: 4pm-8pm ? 4) Alex Shnitman:

What is the 8 in 10.0.0.0/8 and how can I compute it for my network?

2000-03-13 Thread Shaul Karl
Any pointer and/or full explanation about the 8 in 10.0.0.0/8 and the way to compute it for my network? I guess that it has much to do with the subnet mask but isn't subnet masks of the form 255.255.0.0? -- Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED] An elephant is a mo

Re: [Fwd: IW2K flyers]

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 03:28:28AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > I am trying to coordinating IGLU preparations for IW2K instead of Ira. That is > why I was forward your message. > You are encourage to prepare a draft for an Hebrew flyer. I understand that > you will be able to produce an EPS (Exten

Re: What is the 8 in 10.0.0.0/8 and how can I compute it for my network?

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Tue, Mar 14, 2000 at 04:44:06AM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: > Any pointer and/or full explanation about the 8 in 10.0.0.0/8 and the way to > compute it for my network? > I guess that it has much to do with the subnet mask but isn't subnet masks of > the form 255.255.0.0? 10.0.0.0 consists of 32

Re: What is the 8 in 10.0.0.0/8 and how can I compute it for mynetwork?

2000-03-13 Thread Ariel Biener
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Shaul Karl wrote: > Any pointer and/or full explanation about the 8 in 10.0.0.0/8 and the way to > compute it for my network? > I guess that it has much to do with the subnet mask but isn't subnet masks of > the form 255.255.0.0? I attached a shell script that I got from

Re: What is the 8 in 10.0.0.0/8 and how can I compute it for mynetwork?

2000-03-13 Thread Ariel Biener
On Tue, 14 Mar 2000, Ariel Biener wrote: I also include here a full translation table, for your convenience: /0 == 0.0.0.0 /1 == 128.0.0.0 /2 == 192.0.0.0 /3 == 224.0.0.0 /4 == 240.0.0.0 /5 == 248.0.0.0 /6 == 252.0.0.0 /7 == 254.0.0.0 /8 == 255.0.0.0 /9 == 255.128.0.0 /10 == 255.192.0.0 /11 == 2