Internet Ethics [was Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?]

2013-01-27 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Jonathan, On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:52:07 +0200 (IST) Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il wrote: Hi Shimi, You are suggesting that there is no recourse to DDOS attacks, that Israelis are fair game for foreign attacks and it is no one's business except for the victim. The ISP does need

[OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Dear Linux-IL colleagues, An associate of mine who runs a hosting service has been the victim of persistent DDOS attack, apparently from botnets that are mainly located on other countries. His Israeli service providers have responded to these attacks by cutting off his service. Is there

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread shimi
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.ilwrote: Dear Linux-IL colleagues, An associate of mine who runs a hosting service has been the victim of persistent DDOS attack, apparently from botnets that are mainly located on other countries. His Israeli service

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
: shimi linux...@shimi.net To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report? On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il wrote: Dear Linux-IL colleagues, An associate of mine who

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
shimi wrote: What needs to be the threshold? Does the ISP needs to continue giving him service if the whole ISP gets down for 4 hours, like happened last Tuesday to 012? Interesting. I never noticed it, however for one night last week, which I have forgotten which, we had to switch from

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 20:20:30 +0200 From: shimi linux...@shimi.net To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report? On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il wrote

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 21:32:34 +0200 From: E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report? The customer/the ISP can purchase

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread shimi
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.ilwrote: Hi Shimi, You are suggesting that there is no recourse to DDOS attacks, that Israelis are fair game for foreign attacks and it is no one's business except for the victim. Hi Jonathan, Yes, I believe that's the

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread shimi
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.ilwrote: But unless your friend shows that he is taking serious steps to prevent this type of thing in the future no ISP has to allow him onto their network, there are ISPs that specialize in hosting sites that are prone to

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
: E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il, ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report? On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il wrote: But unless your friend shows that he is taking serious steps to prevent

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
the question? - yba On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, shimi wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 22:11:24 +0200 From: shimi linux...@shimi.net To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il Cc: E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il, ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Eliyahu, See inlines below. On Sat, 26 Jan 2013, E.S. Rosenberg wrote: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:22:18 +0200 From: E.S. Rosenberg esr+linux...@g.jct.ac.il To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report? Why

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread shimi
On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.ilwrote: This is not true in general under Israeli law, as I have found out myself from unfortunate personal experience. See http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%**

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread Amos Shapira
Trying to get any useful action from the Israeli police is futile. Get over it - you have to find other venues to address the issues. (I speak from experience of multiple personal encounters were I needed their help and didn't get it). On 27 January 2013 09:30, shimi linux...@shimi.net wrote:

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, shimi wrote: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:30:02 +0200 From: shimi linux...@shimi.net To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report? On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread shimi
On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.ilwrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, shimi wrote: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 00:30:02 +0200 From: shimi linux...@shimi.net To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS

Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report?

2013-01-26 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
+0200 From: shimi linux...@shimi.net To: Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il Cc: ILUG linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: [OT somewhat] DDOS attacks, where to report? On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Jonathan Ben Avraham y...@tkos.co.il wrote: On Sun, 27 Jan 2013, shimi wrote