Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Khayutin
Hi list, Somtimes, if the design we used to create the wheel is old and and with more and more feautres has been added to it the wheel becomes unuseful, then we should reinvent it from the base. But this is not the case, a there is already editors in linux as AbiWord it is a really better option

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Chen Shapira
there is already editors in linux as AbiWord it is a really better option to addd hebrew support to them, why isrealy users should other editors, what have they done bad? A better question would be: Why do Israeli users have to use abiword, they certainly don't deserve it! Its pretty

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: A better option I think is to add hebrew support, build-in, into GTK+. That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole right left problem entirely within a variant on the Gtk+ text-widget. Are there any Gtk+ hackers here who

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Moshe Zadka wrote: On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: A better option I think is to add hebrew support, build-in, into GTK+. That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole right left problem entirely within a variant on the Gtk+ text-widget. It is a good

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Chen Shapira
It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. I want an editor. editor as in emacs/vim? is it going to have a hebrew gui or just hebrew font+bidi support? Thanks, Chen. -- Chen ShapiraWeb Developer and Linux Activist "Preliminary operational tests were inconclusive

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Chen Shapira wrote: It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. I want an editor. editor as in emacs/vim? No. Editor as in MS WordPad. is it going to have a hebrew gui or just hebrew font+bidi support? All hebrew. Even hebrew puns. Thanks, Chen. -- Chen

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Moshe Zadka
On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ury Segal wrote: [About a hebrew enabled text-widget] It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. I want an editor. I disagree -- it has been proven (IDLE) writing an editor is easy if you have a good text-widget. I dare say it will not be hard

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ury Segal
Moshe Zadka wrote: On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ury Segal wrote: [About a hebrew enabled text-widget] It is a good idea, but it will not give us a real hebrew editor. I want an editor. I disagree -- it has been proven (IDLE) writing an editor is easy if you have a good text-widget. NOT on

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Khayutin
I was working a little bit on the topic (the gtk+ coders the gimp ones put where really interested to make internalization and I was the only guy from Israel at hand, so they volunteered me), if somebody will provide more help in this, so we can really go to the coding phase, this will be great.

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote about "Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)": I was working a little bit on the topic (the gtk+ coders the gimp ones put where really interested to make internalization and I was the only guy from Israel at hand, so they volu

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 08:30:02PM +0200, Ury Segal wrote: So, we need a simple hebrew editor, that will enable someone to write a letter to his bank. Would gnp do? As I've told, the GTK+ bidi hack already provides pretty reasonable hebrew support for simple text editing (not rich). -- Best

RE: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
CS A better question would be: Why do Israeli users have to use CS abiword, they certainly don't deserve it! Its pretty broken! It's not broken, it's undeveloped. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo
US I dare you. Show me how you write a RTL-LTR text on a non US RTL-LTR widget; or just show me good RTL-LTR widget. Qtext did this on DOS, which is not an RTL-LTR widget. US OR, show me a good Text widget. There isn't even ONE decent US Text Widget, let alone LTR-RTL. Show me a Text widget

Re: Reinventing the wheel (Re: Hebrew Editor)

2000-03-13 Thread Shaul Karl
Moshe Zadka wrote: On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Ilya Khayutin wrote: A better option I think is to add hebrew support, build-in, into GTK+. That idea clicked right home. It should be possible to handle the whole right left problem entirely within a variant on the Gtk+ text-widget.