Re: Building a Linux-based Game Machine

2017-06-14 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
2017-06-14 19:42 GMT+03:00 Geoffrey Mendelson :
> I spoke to my sons who are gamers and both said the choice of steam games
> under linux is very limited and many are buggy.
Though more limited then windows the statement is not accurate
anymore, Valve are pushing devs hard and a lot of top titles are
available for Linux as a result (without even speaking about the
option of running [Steam] games through of Wine).
>
> The both suggested that you should buy the games they want, not the ones
> that fit your politics.
This is true.
>
> As someone who uses Windows, Linux (ubuntu x64 and android) and iOS daily, I
> agree with them.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 17:45 E.S. Rosenberg  wrote:
>>
>> 2017-06-14 17:42 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg :
>> > As has been said a bunch of times already get a decent GPU without
>> > that SteamOS is a no-go, also use the proprietary drivers otherwise
>> > you won't get performance.
>> Should really have said: SteamOS and/or up-to-date gaming.
>> >
>> > These days there are actually quite a lot of nice and even very good
>> > top-tier titles available for Linux through either Steam, GOG, or
>> > Humblebundle.
>> >
>> > I am running Steam on Ubuntu 17.04 on a i7-9xx [1st gen] with an
>> > nVidia GT5xx IIRC with 8G RAM and a 1920x1200 [16:10] screen some
>> > games require more juice (this is an older box in the end of the day)
>> > some don't.
>> >
>> > As far as games that leverage the Steam controllers go your best bet
>> > is probably Steam with a caveat most reviewers say that the
>> > steam-controller is best for allowing couch based playing of games
>> > that were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse while other
>> > controllers (PS-style like Logitech F310 which is pretty cheap or
>> > X-Box controllers) are much more comfortable for doing 'console' style
>> > gaming.
>> > Myself I only own Logitech Rumblepads (precursor of the F310), I have
>> > been intending to get a Steamcontroller to try it out but not high
>> > enough priority, please let us know what you think of said
>> > controllers.
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> > Eliyahu - אליהו
>> >
>> > 2017-06-14 12:29 GMT+03:00 Gilboa Davara :
>> >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hey All,
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids.
>> >>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought
>> >>> I'd educate them with the Libre Software values...
>> >>> I didn't realize how hard it will be!
>> >>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following:
>> >>>
>> >>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/
>> >>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU
>> >>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM
>> >>> 256GB SSD
>> >>> 2X SteamControllers
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card.
>> >> Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will
>> >> do just fine.
>> >>
>> >> That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g.
>> >> FHD T.V or LCD.
>> >> (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install -
>> >>> got a black screen after the first boot.
>> >>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client.
>> >>
>> >> I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons,
>> >> GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K).
>> >> Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers
>> >>> and finding games - and make them work.
>> >>
>> >> Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero
>> >> experience with it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary -
>> >>> yet...
>> >>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with
>> >>> a couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache...
>> >>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September.
>> >>> Almost a year ago!
>> >>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be
>> >>> willing to come over and help me out with making it work.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Specific issues?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I live in Haifa.
>> >>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be
>> >>> appreciated.
>> >>> Amichai Rotman.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to
>> >> the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming.
>> Don't forget PS4 actually runs some form of *BSD so that wouldn't be a
>> total abandonment of principles ;)
>>
>> HTH,
>> Eliyahu - אליהו
>> >>
>> >> - Gilboa
>> >>
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>> 

Re: Building a Linux-based Game Machine

2017-06-14 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
I spoke to my sons who are gamers and both said the choice of steam games
under linux is very limited and many are buggy.

The both suggested that you should buy the games they want, not the ones
that fit your politics.

As someone who uses Windows, Linux (ubuntu x64 and android) and iOS daily,
I agree with them.

Geoff.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017, 17:45 E.S. Rosenberg  wrote:

> 2017-06-14 17:42 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg :
> > As has been said a bunch of times already get a decent GPU without
> > that SteamOS is a no-go, also use the proprietary drivers otherwise
> > you won't get performance.
> Should really have said: SteamOS and/or up-to-date gaming.
> >
> > These days there are actually quite a lot of nice and even very good
> > top-tier titles available for Linux through either Steam, GOG, or
> > Humblebundle.
> >
> > I am running Steam on Ubuntu 17.04 on a i7-9xx [1st gen] with an
> > nVidia GT5xx IIRC with 8G RAM and a 1920x1200 [16:10] screen some
> > games require more juice (this is an older box in the end of the day)
> > some don't.
> >
> > As far as games that leverage the Steam controllers go your best bet
> > is probably Steam with a caveat most reviewers say that the
> > steam-controller is best for allowing couch based playing of games
> > that were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse while other
> > controllers (PS-style like Logitech F310 which is pretty cheap or
> > X-Box controllers) are much more comfortable for doing 'console' style
> > gaming.
> > Myself I only own Logitech Rumblepads (precursor of the F310), I have
> > been intending to get a Steamcontroller to try it out but not high
> > enough priority, please let us know what you think of said
> > controllers.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Eliyahu - אליהו
> >
> > 2017-06-14 12:29 GMT+03:00 Gilboa Davara :
> >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hey All,
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids.
> >>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought
> I'd educate them with the Libre Software values...
> >>> I didn't realize how hard it will be!
> >>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following:
> >>>
> >>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/
> >>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU
> >>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM
> >>> 256GB SSD
> >>> 2X SteamControllers
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card.
> >> Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will
> >> do just fine.
> >>
> >> That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g.
> >> FHD T.V or LCD.
> >> (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above).
> >>
> >>
> >>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install -
> got a black screen after the first boot.
> >>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client.
> >>
> >> I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons,
> >> GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K).
> >> Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running.
> >>
> >>
> >>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers
> and finding games - and make them work.
> >>
> >> Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero
> >> experience with it.
> >>
> >>
> >>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary -
> yet...
> >>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with
> a couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache...
> >>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September.
> Almost a year ago!
> >>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be
> willing to come over and help me out with making it work.
> >>
> >>
> >> Specific issues?
> >>
> >>
> >>> I live in Haifa.
> >>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be
> appreciated.
> >>> Amichai Rotman.
> >>
> >>
> >> PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to
> >> the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming.
> Don't forget PS4 actually runs some form of *BSD so that wouldn't be a
> total abandonment of principles ;)
>
> HTH,
> Eliyahu - אליהו
> >>
> >> - Gilboa
> >>
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Re: Building a Linux-based Game Machine

2017-06-14 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
2017-06-14 17:42 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg :
> As has been said a bunch of times already get a decent GPU without
> that SteamOS is a no-go, also use the proprietary drivers otherwise
> you won't get performance.
Should really have said: SteamOS and/or up-to-date gaming.
>
> These days there are actually quite a lot of nice and even very good
> top-tier titles available for Linux through either Steam, GOG, or
> Humblebundle.
>
> I am running Steam on Ubuntu 17.04 on a i7-9xx [1st gen] with an
> nVidia GT5xx IIRC with 8G RAM and a 1920x1200 [16:10] screen some
> games require more juice (this is an older box in the end of the day)
> some don't.
>
> As far as games that leverage the Steam controllers go your best bet
> is probably Steam with a caveat most reviewers say that the
> steam-controller is best for allowing couch based playing of games
> that were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse while other
> controllers (PS-style like Logitech F310 which is pretty cheap or
> X-Box controllers) are much more comfortable for doing 'console' style
> gaming.
> Myself I only own Logitech Rumblepads (precursor of the F310), I have
> been intending to get a Steamcontroller to try it out but not high
> enough priority, please let us know what you think of said
> controllers.
>
> HTH,
> Eliyahu - אליהו
>
> 2017-06-14 12:29 GMT+03:00 Gilboa Davara :
>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey All,
>>>
>>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids.
>>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd 
>>> educate them with the Libre Software values...
>>> I didn't realize how hard it will be!
>>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following:
>>>
>>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/
>>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU
>>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM
>>> 256GB SSD
>>> 2X SteamControllers
>>
>>
>> I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card.
>> Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will
>> do just fine.
>>
>> That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g.
>> FHD T.V or LCD.
>> (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above).
>>
>>
>>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a 
>>> black screen after the first boot.
>>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client.
>>
>> I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons,
>> GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K).
>> Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running.
>>
>>
>>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and 
>>> finding games - and make them work.
>>
>> Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero
>> experience with it.
>>
>>
>>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - 
>>> yet...
>>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a 
>>> couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache...
>>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost a 
>>> year ago!
>>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to 
>>> come over and help me out with making it work.
>>
>>
>> Specific issues?
>>
>>
>>> I live in Haifa.
>>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be 
>>> appreciated.
>>> Amichai Rotman.
>>
>>
>> PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to
>> the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming.
Don't forget PS4 actually runs some form of *BSD so that wouldn't be a
total abandonment of principles ;)

HTH,
Eliyahu - אליהו
>>
>> - Gilboa
>>
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Re: Building a Linux-based Game Machine

2017-06-14 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
As has been said a bunch of times already get a decent GPU without
that SteamOS is a no-go, also use the proprietary drivers otherwise
you won't get performance.

These days there are actually quite a lot of nice and even very good
top-tier titles available for Linux through either Steam, GOG, or
Humblebundle.

I am running Steam on Ubuntu 17.04 on a i7-9xx [1st gen] with an
nVidia GT5xx IIRC with 8G RAM and a 1920x1200 [16:10] screen some
games require more juice (this is an older box in the end of the day)
some don't.

As far as games that leverage the Steam controllers go your best bet
is probably Steam with a caveat most reviewers say that the
steam-controller is best for allowing couch based playing of games
that were meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse while other
controllers (PS-style like Logitech F310 which is pretty cheap or
X-Box controllers) are much more comfortable for doing 'console' style
gaming.
Myself I only own Logitech Rumblepads (precursor of the F310), I have
been intending to get a Steamcontroller to try it out but not high
enough priority, please let us know what you think of said
controllers.

HTH,
Eliyahu - אליהו

2017-06-14 12:29 GMT+03:00 Gilboa Davara :
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman  wrote:
>>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids.
>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd 
>> educate them with the Libre Software values...
>> I didn't realize how hard it will be!
>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following:
>>
>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/
>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU
>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM
>> 256GB SSD
>> 2X SteamControllers
>
>
> I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card.
> Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will
> do just fine.
>
> That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g.
> FHD T.V or LCD.
> (E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above).
>
>
>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a 
>> black screen after the first boot.
>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client.
>
> I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons,
> GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K).
> Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running.
>
>
>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and 
>> finding games - and make them work.
>
> Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero
> experience with it.
>
>
>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - yet...
>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a 
>> couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache...
>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost a 
>> year ago!
>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to 
>> come over and help me out with making it work.
>
>
> Specific issues?
>
>
>> I live in Haifa.
>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be appreciated.
>> Amichai Rotman.
>
>
> PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to
> the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming.
>
> - Gilboa
>
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Re: Building a Linux-based Game Machine

2017-06-14 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Amichai Rotman  wrote:
>
> Hey All,
>
> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids.
> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd 
> educate them with the Libre Software values...
> I didn't realize how hard it will be!
> They saved up their allowance and bought the following:
>
> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/
> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU
> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM
> 256GB SSD
> 2X SteamControllers


I'd add a decent, preferably nVidia based graphics card.
Depending on the games you want to play, anything above GTX 950 will
do just fine.

That said, you didn't mention what type of display is being used, E.g.
FHD T.V or LCD.
(E.g. a 4K display will require 1070 or above).


> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a 
> black screen after the first boot.
> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client.

I'm running normal steam on home workstation (Fedora 25, Xeons,
GTX1080, 4K) and my laptop (Fedora 25, i7, GTX 1080, 4K).
Can't say that I had any issues getting everything up and running.


> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and 
> finding games - and make them work.

Sadly enough, I don't use the Stream controller, so I have zero
experience with it.


> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary - yet...
> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a 
> couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache...
> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost a 
> year ago!
> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to 
> come over and help me out with making it work.


Specific issues?


> I live in Haifa.
> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be appreciated.
> Amichai Rotman.


PS4 / XBOX should be (far) easier, but far less useful if you want to
the do anything else with the machine, beyond gaming.

- Gilboa

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Re: Building a Linux-based Game Machine

2017-06-13 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
It may be more fun, but 99% of the ROM images are bootleg.

You could try MineCraft it will run.

It is a modern game with guy 1980 graphics.

Geoff.

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 15:44 Amichai Rotman  wrote:

> Thank you, Geoffery,
>
> Would it be better to make it a MAME Machine?
>
> Amichai
>
> 2017-06-13 15:25 GMT+03:00 Geoffrey Mendelson  >:
>
>> Get an actual graphics card. Nvidia are the best. Make sure your power
>> supply can handle it.
>>
>> You probably will have to install Windows on it. There are not of games
>> that actually run on Linux.
>>
>> Tip. Go to the Micrsoft Windows download page on your phone. It will give
>> you a link to download an iso file. The link can be used anywhere and is
>> good for 24 hours.
>>
>> When you install windows, you will be asked for an activation code. Hit
>> enter with no code. You then have 30 days to delete windows or buy a code.
>> Buy a real code from a reputable vendor, not an oem code from eBay or an
>> online vendor.
>>
>> Geoff.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 14:44 Amichai Rotman  wrote:
>>
>>> Hey All,
>>>
>>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids.
>>>
>>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought
>>> I'd educate them with the Libre Software values...
>>>
>>> I didn't realize how hard it will be!
>>>
>>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following:
>>>
>>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/
>>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU
>>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM
>>> 256GB SSD
>>> 2X SteamControllers
>>>
>>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got
>>> a black screen after the first boot.
>>>
>>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client.
>>>
>>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers
>>> and finding games - and make them work.
>>>
>>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary -
>>> yet...
>>>
>>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a
>>> couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache...
>>>
>>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September.
>>> Almost a year ago!
>>>
>>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing
>>> to come over and help me out with making it work.
>>>
>>> I live in Haifa.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Amichai Rotman.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> From my tablet please pardon mistakes and lack of replies.
>> Geoffrey Mendelson
>> 4X1GM/N3OWJ
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>>
>
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Re: Building a Linux-based Game Machine

2017-06-13 Thread Amichai Rotman
Thank you, Geoffery,

Would it be better to make it a MAME Machine?

Amichai

2017-06-13 15:25 GMT+03:00 Geoffrey Mendelson :

> Get an actual graphics card. Nvidia are the best. Make sure your power
> supply can handle it.
>
> You probably will have to install Windows on it. There are not of games
> that actually run on Linux.
>
> Tip. Go to the Micrsoft Windows download page on your phone. It will give
> you a link to download an iso file. The link can be used anywhere and is
> good for 24 hours.
>
> When you install windows, you will be asked for an activation code. Hit
> enter with no code. You then have 30 days to delete windows or buy a code.
> Buy a real code from a reputable vendor, not an oem code from eBay or an
> online vendor.
>
> Geoff.
>
> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 14:44 Amichai Rotman  wrote:
>
>> Hey All,
>>
>> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids.
>>
>> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd
>> educate them with the Libre Software values...
>>
>> I didn't realize how hard it will be!
>>
>> They saved up their allowance and bought the following:
>>
>> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/
>> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU
>> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM
>> 256GB SSD
>> 2X SteamControllers
>>
>> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got
>> a black screen after the first boot.
>>
>> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client.
>>
>> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers
>> and finding games - and make them work.
>>
>> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary -
>> yet...
>>
>> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a
>> couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache...
>>
>> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost
>> a year ago!
>>
>> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing
>> to come over and help me out with making it work.
>>
>> I live in Haifa.
>>
>> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Amichai Rotman.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Building a Linux-based Game Machine

2017-06-13 Thread Geoffrey Mendelson
Get an actual graphics card. Nvidia are the best. Make sure your power
supply can handle it.

You probably will have to install Windows on it. There are not of games
that actually run on Linux.

Tip. Go to the Micrsoft Windows download page on your phone. It will give
you a link to download an iso file. The link can be used anywhere and is
good for 24 hours.

When you install windows, you will be asked for an activation code. Hit
enter with no code. You then have 30 days to delete windows or buy a code.
Buy a real code from a reputable vendor, not an oem code from eBay or an
online vendor.

Geoff.

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017, 14:44 Amichai Rotman  wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> I'd like to build my own Linux-based Game Machine, for the kids.
>
> Their original request was a Console Machine (Sony PS4) but I thought I'd
> educate them with the Libre Software values...
>
> I didn't realize how hard it will be!
>
> They saved up their allowance and bought the following:
>
> Asus H10 Mini ATX Motherboard/
> Intel i5 CPU w/integrated GPU
> 2X8 GB DDR4 RAM
> 256GB SSD
> 2X SteamControllers
>
> My original idea was to install SteamOS on it. It wouldn't install - got a
> black screen after the first boot.
>
> I ended up installing regular Ubuntu 16.04 and Steam client.
>
> I am not a Gamer, so I find it hard to configure the Steam Controllers and
> finding games - and make them work.
>
> My kids are 11 and 12 years old, and don't have the skills necessary -
> yet...
>
> A friend from work told me to cut my losses and buy them the PS4 with a
> couple of controllers and thus get rid of the head ache...
>
> I am kinda tired of this - the whole thing started last September. Almost
> a year ago!
>
> I am writing to you with hope that one of you out there will be willing to
> come over and help me out with making it work.
>
> I live in Haifa.
>
> Any thoughts / pointers / ideas / constructive criticism will be
> appreciated.
>
> Amichai Rotman.
>
>
>
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>From my tablet please pardon mistakes and lack of replies.
Geoffrey Mendelson
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