Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Reformulation: I _use_! a couple. And they don't use it for menus but for graphs which by the way they are presented can't be done in gifs/png (which are static) or javascript (no graphics AFAIK, unless you call java methods) This case would be very exceptional, and you'd know the site so the

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-02 Thread Tim Wright
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: No, sorry, it's an empirical observation. E.g. one was a German Is there such a thing as an emperical observation? (I'm sure this will start one of those 'interesting' CLUG discussions:) Tim Wright Assistant Lecturer Department of Computer Science

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-02 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Andrew Errington wrote: AFAIK you can't turn java on/off site-specific, let me know if I am wrong. Err, Konqueror lets you do this... I stand corrected :-) (I had some very vague recollection, this is why I asked to be corrected if I am wrong). Cheers, -- Ryurick

RE: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-02 Thread Steve Bell
: Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff AFAIK you can't turn java on/off site-specific, let me know if I am wrong. Err, Konqueror lets you do this... Andy

RE: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-02 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Steve Bell wrote: I reckon the 'governing bodies' (whoever the heck they are) should make rules about what is ethcial with java. (the same guys who make rules about unsubscribes/spam, I mean.) I understand now why I don't receive spam any longer. It is because it was

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-02 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: [...] Surf elsewhere ? What if there isn't an elsewhere ? Google knows how many million pages? Sure there's an elsewhere... ;;) Right! So, as an _example_, let say I am interested in user comments on a particular topic on Slashdot. Where else may

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-02 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 08:36:15AM +1200, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Surf elsewhere ? What if there isn't an elsewhere ? Google knows how many million pages? Sure there's an elsewhere... ;;) Right! So, as an _example_, let say I am interested in

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-02 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 08:36:15AM +1200, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Surf elsewhere ? What if there isn't an elsewhere ? Google knows how many million pages? Sure there's an elsewhere... ;;) Right! So,

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-01 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
http://www.cexx.org/sheriff.htm Java applet Morons who browse with java don't deserve any better. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-01 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: http://www.cexx.org/sheriff.htm Java applet Morons who browse with java don't deserve any better. Volker Oh, yeah. Volker we all appreciate your very pertinent commentaries ;-) Did it occurred to you that there may be some sites

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-01 Thread Andrew Errington
AFAIK you can't turn java on/off site-specific, let me know if I am wrong. Err, Konqueror lets you do this... Andy

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-01 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
Oh, yeah. Volker we all appreciate your very pertinent commentaries ;-) Glad you liked it. I thought an outright statement would draw some comment ;)) Did it occurred to you that there may be some sites which may require Java to work ? Yes. Happens all the time with javascript. Still no

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-04-01 Thread Ryurick M. Hristev
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: [...] There are very very few sites requiring java, even fewer useful sites, Right now this is true. But who tells you it can't change. It does wonders to drop a ... ts ts, requiring java for using your site, will have to surf elsewehre then, even

Re: Server-Side Spyware: Red Sheriff

2003-03-31 Thread Nick Rout
bastards On Tue, 01 Apr 2003 15:52:15 +1200 (NZST) Ryurick M. Hristev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI http://www.cexx.org/sheriff.htm Unlike most conventional spyware, imrworldwide.com's Red Sheriff is loaded as a Java applet embedded in a Web page you visit. Once loaded, it