Re: OT: Help with Damaged data on a hard drive
On 11/07/10 10:31, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Sat 10 Jul 2010 12:37:22 NZST +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: Sounds to me like the disk is dead because it's got read error, do you reckon the USB-SATA adapter will be fine I couldn't use a direct connection to my computer because I didn't have a spare SATA cable, so I had to use the USB-SATA adapter once we fixed the SATA plug on it not because the sata plug broke. No amount of data damage you can do with a broken plug would affect read performance with dd once you connect it up properly. You don't even need ddrescue. If you haven't yet done so, do that now and start again. I Used ddrescue because it seems better for the job of data recovery, dd would just error about read errors, and I found ddrescue while looking for a way of skipping read errors If the disk had read errors (average 1MB/s sounds rather like it) then technically you run rescue operations on a copy of a ddrescue copy. If you don't have the space you get only 2 goes (one on the first copy, one on the bad disk). Buy another disk if it's important. OK I've fixed the Image of the disk with testdisk, seems to work OK, able to mount it using an offset loopback device and play music off of it, I'll recommend another disk too my friend (it's his) You can find out if the disk has surface errors by running the smartctl command of the smartmontools package. Note that if you connect the disk through anything involving USB then you need an adapter which is designed properly, and a rather recent version of smartmontools. Volker I tried smartctl and it seemed to pass with no errors :/ maybe I'm using the wrong arguments? (sorry I can't remember which ones I used) thanks for the advice Daniel
OT: Help with Damaged data on a hard drive
my friend had a external hard (250GB) and the SATA plug broke he didn't know this for a while, so there is now corrupt data on the drive (broken partition table and some other stuff) I've finally backed up the data (69h copy time) with GNU ddrescue here's the problem, the best option is to make a copy of the backup and work on that but I don't have the space the other two options are to work on the hard drive, or work on the backup image the other problem is that I've already tried fixing the partition table (with testdisk) on the drive but I got read errors later on I'm thinking the best approach would be to erase the hard drive (get a ride of all the errors) and dd on the backup image and work on the drive from there any ideas?
Re: CLUG meetings
On 06/07/10 15:45, Rik Tindall wrote: On 05/07/10 12:24, max podolian wrote: Hello everyone! Are there held any CLUG meetings? Best regards, Maksym Hello Maksym, Some local *nix users meet on the first Wednesday of each month (i.e. tomorrow) at 7.30pm-9.30pm in the South Learning Centre at South Library on Colombo Street in Beckenham (use the rear door). Regards, Rik Tindall Can some one confirm this? I though they canceled it?
Re: Handheld scanner recommendations
However, for scanning books, flatbeds have issues distortion in the center of thick books. Google solved this by calculating the curve and using some sort of 3D rendering to flatten out the image
Re: Handheld scanner recommendations
On 06/07/10 14:17, C. Falconer wrote: Andrew Errington wrote, On 07/06/2010 01:01 PM: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.33756 Oh, and I've never bought anything from DealExtreme, although I *sooo* want to. I have. The quality is about what you'd expect from mail-order. It looks really good in the catalogue pictures, but in real life its generally less. Materials are generally weaker, but gear is patterned after other well-known designs. That said - some of it is stunningly good. Yes, I've brought a USB cable for my ancient Nokia phone from them, well after the 5th one not working I gave up
Re: why oh why...
DVD-player -- dmix (48 kHz) -- sample-conversion (48--44.1) -- dmix (44.1) -- sound card your system is redundant you don't need two dmix plugins my system is setup with: samplerate converter (called plug)-- dmix sound card [well it's a bit more complex ( http://pastebin.org/359575)] It will play 22050Hz sound with 44100Hz sounds at the same time
Re: why oh why...
And finally with the last few versions of Ubuntu there is a push for pulseaudio which I think is utter rubbish. It seems to me the real problem lies in ALSA's inability to work with more then one source. There are some workarounds that disable ALSA from locking the card to one app. I remember ALSA brought out a patch that allow software mixing for hardware that didn't support it by default, I can't seem to reproduce it though, but my .asoundrc file works quite well
Re: Recommendations for Linux hosting companies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm not sure how good these guys are but worth a shot http://www.asmallorange.com/hosting/shared/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkt3dKwACgkQGplaCYOFvyvNggCcD0Mfdz0DjTokl9GRbMfa64Q8 90AAoJQEUIz4zwlGhFHQjsVHkDBtTsVZ =ueMR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Amarok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christopher Sawtell wrote: Greets to CLUGgers Does anybody know why Amarok requires a login? It's an ordinary app, just a sound player for goodness sake. If anybody knows how to disable the need for a login I'd be very grateful to hear the secret incantation. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell This seems like an odd behaviour, try disabling the plugins that you don't use I assume this is amarok 2.x? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktyL30ACgkQGplaCYOFvyuUugCfaDqPPWe0Gp44m1Gw4VFFWOIa HlQAni0IoKZVRbomXL7wsV5e8fojXINY =DzZt -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Amarok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Lowe wrote: I recall (not having used it for a while) that if you set it to use MySql as the database, you have to enter credentials. maybe that's what you are seeing. That's not the default config though. But I would say that if you have a lot of music, it's worth using. Actually Amarok 2 uses MySQL embbed by default -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktyPigACgkQGplaCYOFvyswzgCgiO6kyfudjR03YdiPAx/FOiqH 4d4AoIFIRhYPsJaOpSCnImeMopcVIcnU =KEtp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Linux Smart Phones
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I remember a while ago some one started a website to gage the demand for the Openmoko NeoFreeRunner and since then the market has changed a lot we have different software like: OpenMoko, Android, Maemo, Palm webOS and lots of phones to match so I was wondering which handset and software would you guys pick and why? I'm currently liking the Nokia N900 with Maemo since it's pretty much just debian for ARM I'm not liking Android because it's Not a Linux OS as such OpenMoko doesn't have any good handsets -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAksDM0UACgkQGplaCYOFvys2MwCgj6cJEQF9J3etIcoddRIgprbR qQgAn2NO3coxeV+5XpSmR4R4pbSyfqIg =anul -END PGP SIGNATURE-
OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You can do VOIP to somewhere like 2talk for $cheap. I've always had A problem with the idea of running VoIP, what happens when your internet is down? how do you ring customer service? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq6kvgACgkQGplaCYOFvyv2MQCfa/RuvLo7CypxWCJA8U60VWZ5 4ioAnR5bQ3jJ0b2oWVZGoZbMN9EhynsW =mE74 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On a similar note and sorry to top the thread...but what are the contract terms like for broadband, are they all 12 months 24 months or are there any that offer short term, casual contracts? Usually you can do it casual if you pay for the connection fee other wise you will have to pay a disconnection fee -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq6k7UACgkQGplaCYOFvyvUWgCeJen32jz6oDkjLZ3gXYPJX10q RjIAoIacVSU9bUiWiGrDr0nN31+QtqFb =Ewow -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: OT, Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 when your internet is down? how do you ring customer service? You spend some of that money you save on a cell phone call. Telecom phone = $50 a month, plus $3.95 for CID plus $10 for voicemail 2talk phone = $15 a month, includes CID and voicemail. A linksys pap2t pays for itself in only 3 months, and the increase in internet traffic is fairly small - for me its ~1GB/month but thats with a teenager on the phone 2 hours a day. If you are still unsure - get a 2talk free account - allows you to make 15 minutes/month of voip calls for nothing. And you can get a softphone for linux or windows so there's no hardware costs to trial. Of course if your DSL is ratelimited then voip will be pretty terrible. Recomended Naked DSL provider? I found http://www.xnet.co.nz/fusion/ but it's bundle only -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq6l6QACgkQGplaCYOFvyuICACglpyZtQJnSp6ubn4WX29JxB4E imwAnid6Am2S+6rCKoesIoJnMOzDgi+t =itKC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Good broadband provider in Christchurch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Wallis wrote: Hello I'm currently living in the UK, and am moving to Christchurch in January. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good ISP in NZ? When I was growing up (in NZ), Clear.net.nz were good, but that was back in the days of dial-up. Is the information on http://www.internetchoice.co.nz reliable? How long does it typically take to get a DSL line installed, or would you recommend going wireless? I have my own DSL router, so it'd be nice to be able to use that; although I'm yet to determine if it's 2+ ready. Thanks Dan I'm currently with Xnet.co.nz they have very flexable plans specially if you download alot of data -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkq5gX0ACgkQGplaCYOFvyuAjQCeM9RL2O2jK1P0lwOXFELfYBeA eeIAn0/GsianuiOF5y937vQK9G4IvhAt =P2dM -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Allocating unused drive space to a root partition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 don't like articles that don't state what they are trying achieve or what LVM does Hi, After spending today testing at work I have suddenly become a fan of LVM that gets around this problem http://linuxbsdos.com/2008/11/11/lvm-configuration-in-ubuntu-810/ All my futher installs (home work) are going to be using LVM including some servers we are setting up - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqwnVgACgkQGplaCYOFvyvBmgCdGeg6uX5go/8uejrng8nlSXoF L3MAoIlo+4Lm7t0LCNVgbZXIF8k4FzEv =KMk+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Tri-boot system?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Gauland wrote: My laptop is configured as dual-boot right now (Windows XP and Ubuntu). Unfortunately, Ubuntu frequently locks up on this machine. I don't want to do a re-install only to find that hasn't helped the situation, but I'd like to add a new install to a separate partition, and see if that runs any better. Of course, I want to be sure GRUB continues to recognise the existing operating systems as well as the new one. Is there any trick to doing this? I'm planning to install Debian stable---any advice particular to that distribution? --Mike Gparted[http://gparted.sourceforge.net/](it comes on the ubuntu live disk) will help you out partitioning Debian mite tri-boot automatically but if it does not read the man page for grub and how to configure menu.list http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Configuration also you could create a /boot partition (ext2 100mb should do it) not sure how well it would sync with two OS's though but it's probably better than running 2 /boot's and trying to sync kernel updates also try to avoid editing the entries in menu.list directly there is a defaults section at the top which looks like it's commented out but is actually parsed when a kernel update happens - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqgRuUACgkQGplaCYOFvysYHQCfRCSUFFs1ozutYqcRBtWYcBWt f2gAoIoq4S6a5zT5YH9ERg5GeqYUee0+ =6r+c -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Open Source Stock Images
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Not sure how easy it is to browse but you could try this http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page and there's also this http://search.creativecommons.org Hi all, a couple of years ago I did a freebie job which required some images. I managed to find the images I needed at a free stock photo gallery which I believe from memory was hosted by an australian lug. I'm currently tutoring some intermediate school age students in web design and could do with some decent free stock image sources. Does anyone know of the site I mean as I can't find it now, or does anyone know of any other decent similar sites? Regards, Kerry - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqa6zEACgkQGplaCYOFvysQkwCZAQklgmefQpkfCqwVmgmAoavF 7C8AnjihBtB7i4l54qm0deMvubTd2eto =FTHI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Open Source Stock Images
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Also I'm not to familiar with copyright law but I think you're allowed to infringe on works of art for educational purposes ref http://www.copyright.org.nz/viewInfosheet.php?sheet=29 Hi all, a couple of years ago I did a freebie job which required some images. I managed to find the images I needed at a free stock photo gallery which I believe from memory was hosted by an australian lug. I'm currently tutoring some intermediate school age students in web design and could do with some decent free stock image sources. Does anyone know of the site I mean as I can't find it now, or does anyone know of any other decent similar sites? Regards, Kerry - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqbVUEACgkQGplaCYOFvyt18wCgkCjuZ37qBXXQ9oHfIaz/PeML gPcAoIRwEMloBxRbTFKuZuxSodl36ab3 =6xyI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: OT: software or hardware problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I recommended memtest86 xor shunt files around for two reasons... * so you can get a fast reliable check of did that fix it? * hardware can go flaky for many reasons other than power supplies. memtest86 passed with current PSU, also how would memtest86 fix my problem? also you didn't actually mean to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR my files? - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqW3kQACgkQGplaCYOFvytaNwCfW++KYg57FYDpwQHteVX8B5Gj 73kAn0rD8brqetdFy57tbO1igT5wqKQk =FwG/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: clug domains - renewal time again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig Falconer wrote: Craig Falconer wrote, On 27/07/09 15:26: Nick Rout wrote, On 27/07/09 15:22: At this stage I wish to acknowledge again the input of Jim Cheetham, who has looked after our server, the person who paid for renewal last year (IIRC they wanted to remain nameless) and Craig F for horse. horse has been down for over a week now, and noone has noticed or commented. Horse has had more activity since I posted this a month ago. However I've had a small hardware failure and had to juggle some motherboards about, so horse and the host server are down till next month. (on the good side, it will be a VT capable CPU next time) Never heard of horse before Just wondering what is horse used for? - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqVLNsACgkQGplaCYOFvyvffwCeL0h/Qr3P6LZ7tFpZ/MOzE4hZ ZygAnj21MUm0B5UfiS+KR7W9F3vmkQRr =yB70 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Neat, Crazy, Cool, scripts
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So I was reading over the old archive of xkcd's blag, and found this:
http://blag.xkcd.com/2009/04/27/a-problem/
(read the comments lots of bash tips)
just wondering if anyone know's any neat tricks and what not for linux
I wrote this one the other day: WARNING THIS NEEDS ROOT
AND ASKS FOR IT (VIA SUDO), IT MAY NOT DESTROY YOUR
COMPUTER I'M WARNING YOU AND I HEAR BY CLAM NO
RESPONSIBILITY FOR DAMAGE CAUSED
it will also erase any file called speed test.txt in the current running
directory
code
FILE=speed tests.txt; cp /dev/null $FILE; for i in `echo /dev/sd?
| sed s:/dev/::g` ; do LINE=Disk:/dev/$i ; LINE=$LINE `sudo
hdparm -t /dev/$i | grep Timing | awk ' {... print $11 $12 } ' `;
LINE=$LINE `sudo fdisk -l /dev/$i | grep Disk /dev/$i | awk '{
print $3 $4 }' | sed s/,//g `; echo $LINE $FILE ; done
/code
- --
python -c print \\.join([
\\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i]
for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4,
9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] )
http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion
msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com
xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org
http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/
https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill
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Re: Neat, Crazy, Cool, scripts
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This is just weird in a coupla ways...
1. Why use sed to remove the /dev/ of the device name, then
manually put it back every time you use it?
I think at one point before the final version I wanted to use it with
out /dev/
oh well I learnt how to use sed with / with out using this sed
's/\/dev\///g'
2. Why append output to $FILE line by line when you can just
redirect the output of the for loop in one go?
I actually don't know, and I'm not sure how the ... got in to the
awk comand either
#!/bin/bash
for i in /dev/sd? ; do
echo Disk:$i ;
sudo hdparm -t $i |
grep Timing |
awk ' { print $11 $12 } ';
sudo fdisk -l $i |
grep Disk $i |
awk '{ print $3 $4 }' |
sed s/,//g;
done speed test.txt
yeah that is a lot simpler
at one point I was going to write it in python, but realised how
annoying it is to use the subprocess module to launch the commands
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Re: clug domains - renewal time again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Its a shell server - nothing flash. Most users here have linux boxes of their own, but sometimes a host outside the network can be helpful for testing, or some users like James just don't have a linux box. More news in the new month. that would be useful I have many times wanted to test my port forwarding -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqVojYACgkQGplaCYOFvyu9NgCfd32bc0PY7CJTt30Qq/N33IZD yaYAoJT/3Hhx0kmbYz/Owzcl/ZGq2/nm =rbOo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
OT: software or hardware problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So I've been having some weird behaviour with my computer some programs seam to hang for 30s for no apparent reason running Java on the realtime kernel for ubuntu caused a hard lockup reported it as a bug here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-rt/+bug/419469 before realizing the same thing happened after playing some games in windows instead of running java The question I want to know is a 250w power supply enough to power my computer AMD64 3200+ (over clocked to 2.5GHz) ATI Radeon X800XL 3 SATA drives 2 ram sticks (calculated my usage at about 230w) I once was running a 500w power supply but it blew up, and I had a spare 250w around and it seems to be running fine for like 3 months - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqV2usACgkQGplaCYOFvyt5CwCfY41YRCYMqnwDsDeKwdwgzDej GjIAn36K9jRO9zGHCsbwxYruW0rsfGYo =4eii -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: OT: software or hardware problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Run memtest86 to check mboard and ram or shunt huge files around until you can reliably reproduce the bug. If I'm not getting the correct voltage I would believe that the ram/cpu/mboard would act up so I'm thinking I would have to test it with another power supply for a comparison, but I will run memtest86 tonight Disconnect two of the SATA drives and see if the problem goes away. Drop the clock rate on that poor chip. Improve the cooling dramatically via something and test if it isn't going dippy because the overclocking is overheating it. this the CPU has been running like that for about 2 years now and the fan looks pretty clear and the CPU fan has never gone above 1000RPM(idle speed I think) during stress tests ok so I'm 80% sure that it's the power supply, 3.3V is running at 3.09V (0.045V below ATX spec) - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqWBDMACgkQGplaCYOFvysdlwCfc8aPleXnX1iUORJ4l7k6FHTR chEAn1+QagZitHbS3MDzR7kfNRJ6gQEf =ouei -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: OT: software or hardware problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ok so I'm 80% sure that it's the power supply, 3.3V is running at 3.09V (0.045V below ATX spec) That's why I suggested disconnecting the two extra drives quickest way of getting a little extra juice. the SATA drives are connected to the power supply via molex connectors, which don't supply 3.3V, would that actually have an effect? - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqWE4MACgkQGplaCYOFvysexwCeJ2l4u49CB7KKGTIrALQnOhso fiwAn3WEW8jE3VO4b894/Y8Zc8rNs5HF =LfNQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Can someone tell me why...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No, i can't use alsa or pulse or any of the other outputs, http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Jack_(plugin) - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqTAXcACgkQGplaCYOFvyvx3QCfQQxiGERFkv8Sv6WrdaQA33w3 cvYAmQHcP03z15PcLxHOYRxTNtL1q0LX =zPCk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Can someone tell me why...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rex Johnston wrote: xmms went away and it's replacement, audacious, sux soo much it isn't funny. xmms2 is a music server, and nothing like xmms. Rex Like how Amarok 2 sucks compared to Amarok 1.4? have you tried all the xmms2 front ends? - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqP1vsACgkQGplaCYOFvyvtmACgkWGISk4usufpMbtEwa3J+rwk W8AAn0DFssVYiExOxEISs5qNL6k5y0Pi =W6TG -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Resolving domain name to different IP based on port?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Phill Coxon wrote: The thing I forgot to mention is that it's a wordpress based site. WordPress stores it's base URL in it's database so to set up a development site on a different domain (whether a sub domain, or examplesite.local) means editing the database to replace all references to the URL. That's such a stupid design flaw(feature?) what happens if you try running it on another (sub)domain? does it error? - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqOdUcACgkQGplaCYOFvysPfgCcDhsgC4hTjLKshexIdcyA9aGZ iOkAn15hqCMvzvqyQNSKv656di7GwAzq =hznm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Resolving domain name to different IP based on port?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Phill Coxon wrote: I have no idea if this is possible so thought I'd ask those for more knowledgeable here. I'm doing some work on a client website. I've set up a virtual site locally using apache 2 so that I can have a mirror copy of the site to make changes and test before uploading to the live site. At the moment I'm switching between the local and remote sites by editing the IP address in /etc/hosts. What I'd like to know is if there is any way to set up local dns so that I can resolve examplesite.com to either my local virtual site, or the real live site based on the specified http port. i.e.: If I visit examplesite.com (standard port 80) I'll go to the live interent site. But if I visit examplesite.com:81 I'll be redirected to the local development virtual site running on my local computer. Probably can't be done but thought I'd ask and see what suggestions you guys can come up with. you could try Sub domains eg, www.examplesite.com for live site (and examplesite.com would redirect to it) and testing.examplesite.com would be the dev site - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqOKCsACgkQGplaCYOFvyvwDgCdE+29i7OzE9ZlVel0hPMbEs9S dskAniUWfb74IGQ5O2ZBBpVayw/7Z3Pb =qIoJ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Backing up PGP keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wondering if there is a safe way to back my public and private keys any ideas? - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqH/gUACgkQGplaCYOFvysORACaAmPyM8oMJNgHOAGYXNodHG3Z pjEAniRXVxoqkuo7gzVjF//mAtl9beXJ =nkYU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Backing up PGP keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Errington wrote: On Sun, August 16, 2009 21:39, Daniel Hill wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wondering if there is a safe way to back my public and private keys any ideas? Here's an idea: http://dansdata.com/gz094.htm HTH, A must get a printer and scanner some time - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqICcwACgkQGplaCYOFvyvsmwCeJtO+f+o2Be6wwbkRHRveHAxK IpYAn1WTtXxIm3PVrirVzebOsluztFjy =v8UB -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Backing up PGP keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig Falconer wrote: Daniel Hill wrote, On 17/08/09 01:30: Andrew Errington wrote: http://dansdata.com/gz094.htm must get a printer and scanner some time You have two of each, generally printers on the end of your arms, and two scanners in the front of your skull. Sure the throughput is abysmal, but you're talking 2K of data tops ? also No error correction, and you know how error prone flesh printers are - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqIyZ4ACgkQGplaCYOFvyshlwCeK7zP2e4KcDXo+jJVcznxnoaC i6oAn0sTlLQlsAYmB8PMDWHVIhpC5Wqz =t9wp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Backing up PGP keys
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mind removing the pgp stuff from your quotes? it seams to be messing up Enigmail Theres actually a firefox extension that allows you to do pgp with gmail here http://getfiregpg.org/s/home - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqIy3oACgkQGplaCYOFvysyQQCfZkK9qQ479uArICZoJNv4mUla YA0AnjYu+Ikx9stu5l9MthqmIxH3k4lQ =QYs/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Words Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig Falconer wrote: steve wrote, On 14/08/09 18:18: With risk in mind, it's best to use software certified* for a specific os, and to do that most simply, it's best to stay in the mainline, which really is RH/CentOS 5.3 or debian lenny. *This is a very loose definition of the word, where package releases are considered certified. Often the source release from the author is better, but then you've got the extra headache of completely testing it yourself. At least if debian/RH release a package, it's been pretty thoroughly tested. I know it's the wrong word, but I couldn't think of the right one (: Accepted? Verified / validated? That old Debian standard stable, sometimes said as known-stable or proved stable Not stepping outside the package management framework That reminds me of that time when they broke GnuPG, making it certified - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqIyRoACgkQGplaCYOFvysmGgCfQNNXQz4Rvy8hPR63am4dxmnh eXEAniUlkTLBjy43exY1HHw8PnWrprP8 =eis5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: ubuntu 9.04 on notebook: display not quite right?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bryce Stenberg wrote: -Original Message- From: Hadley Rich [mailto:h...@nice.net.nz] Sent: Thursday, 13 August 2009 1:46 p.m. There are some issues with some Intel Xorg drivers in Ubuntu 9.04. I don't know if this effects your chipset but if so, you've basically got three options. 1. Try fixing/working around the driver issue on 9.04 2. Downgrade to 8.10 3. Upgrade to the unreleased 9.10. Many thank Hadley - I found reference to Intel Xorg drivers using Google which led me to a page showing me how to easily downgrade the Intel driver under Ubuntu, which I have done. Display now appears to be behaving correctly. Regards, Bryce Stenberg. DISCLAIMER: If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by reply email, facsimile or collect telephone call to +64 3 9641200 and destroy the original. Please refer to full DISCLAIMER at http://www.hrnz.co.nz/eDisclaimer.htm You could always try reporting the bug in launchpad - -- python -c print \\.join([ \\x79\x71\x6Du\056vgp\x40ae\142nr\.decode(\\x72o\164\x5F_13\)[i] for i in [1, 12, 9, 5, 13, 0, 4, 3, 5, 0, 0, 8, 11, 10, 7, 11, 9, 4, 9, 13, 6, 4, 9, 2] ] ) http://www.facebook.com/YellowOnion msnim:chat?contact=yellow_oni...@hotmail.com xmpp:yellowon...@jabber.org http://last.fm/user/Yellow-Onion/ https://launchpad.net/~daniel-hill -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkqI2KkACgkQGplaCYOFvyv0igCfW02b+x0RCMYmQ8WaG+Ar/5k5 L4EAn00/uHoeR7DFoU/JWZXVHUgrPX7c =1vwy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Reset desktop?
Right click on a free area on the panel click add to panel then drag and drop the User Switcher to the desired location Daniel Bryce Stenberg wrote: Hi, Continuing my little battles with Ubuntu… After trying out KDE to see if it helped my display issue I have subsequently removed all the kde stuff. But now under gnome I have lost the wee shutdown icon from top right (maybe I removed something I shouldn’t have) – that had useful things like hibernate, logoff, shutdown, etc… Is there a way to reset my desktop back to the default starting point? Or maybe a more direct way to get the shutdown thing back? At the moment the only way I know of to stop the computer is using ‘shutdown’ command from a terminal window which isn’t very satisfactory. Thanks. Bryce Stenberg. // /DISCLAIMER: //If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by reply email, facsimile or collect telephone call to +64 3 9641200 and destroy the original. Please refer to full DISCLAIMER at http://www.hrnz.co.nz/eDisclaimer.htm/ / /
Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server
Robert Fisher wrote: but if you want to learn more about Linux as you go and are really prepared to get your hands dirty, go for Gentoo. getting my hands dirty is exactly what I want to do just don't know if I can be bothered with the 8h compile time, wondering if there is another distro that'll let me do that but isn't source based
Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server
Install time has been much much easier for folks the past 2 years, with stage3 being the default instead of stage1, and stage 1 now being officially unsupported. Stage 1 imho gives you a much closer look at how things work. ( I've become a bit of a masochist on the deal, and have installed from stage1 every time just because I can, and its /way/ more fun when its unsupported, because bugs occur and you get to fix them yourself ) I think I mite try Stage 1 and use distcc to speed up the compile time
Re: Which Distro for learning linux and server
Kent Fredric wrote: For minimal pain, don't unmask the ~ ( testing ) versions of things during stage 1. You'll find if you do you'll find a fun gcc cyclic dependency :) ( that is, don't set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS= to ~amd64 or ~x86 leave them at amd64 or x86 ) Once you get to stage 3 of the build /then/ you /might/ want to switch on that, but don't do it earlier. I have a friend advise me to do this * start with stage 3, updating all the settings then going emerge world gets you the same result as starting * from stage 1
Re: python coding problem
Have you tried running it in another thread? http://linuxgazette.net/107/pai.html Hi python experts After lots of suggestions I have as last tried programming in python. I have the following code snippet which when called displays a selected image using qiv. def file_ok_sel(self, w): print %s % self.filew.get_filename() # displays file name on xterm # create cmd to display image - qiv + filenm self.filenm = qiv %s % self.filew.get_filename() # display image os.system (self.filenm) My problem is that the python code hangs until the image (qiv) is killed whereas I wish the image to stay displayed while the python app continues running. Google produces lots of answers, none of which I can understand. What alt should I make to the code? TIA Barry
Re: Anyone else in Chch with broadband down?
Phill Coxon wrote: Anyone else with Telecom ADSL down in Christchurch at the moment? According to some Telecom person I spoke to somebody managed to cut a fibre optic cable on Wakrakei Road this morning at about 7:30am. We're still down in Opawa (currently using mobile broadband). Very annoying. I'm running xnet adsl and everythings fine,( I assume xnet run on the same hardware as telecom?)
Re: D-Link DSL-G604T Gen ][ firmware?
I've got OpenWRT running on a 502T, I'm not sure the wireless works on the G604T there's a page that's a bit out of date here http://oldwiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs(2f)Hardware(2f)D(2d)Link(2f)DSL(2d)G604T.html it's a little hacky but mite be worth a try, I can give you pointers and I'm sure you could find some more help on irc://freenode.net/#ar7 or #openWRT Has anyone out there got any of the *WRT offerings on one of these? I've got one here that's useless, as I can't access a few sites ( linkedin being the most important ) with the latest available NZ firmware. Cheers, Steve
Re: D-Link DSL-G604T Gen ][ firmware?
Nope didn't even know routertech.org existed steve wrote: Thanks for that Daniel, You haven't tried out any of the stuff at routertech.org, have you?? Cheers, Steve On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 12:37 +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: I've got OpenWRT running on a 502T, I'm not sure the wireless works on the G604T there's a page that's a bit out of date here http://oldwiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs(2f)Hardware(2f)D(2d)Link(2f)DSL(2d)G604T.html it's a little hacky but mite be worth a try, I can give you pointers and I'm sure you could find some more help on irc://freenode.net/#ar7 or #openWRT Has anyone out there got any of the *WRT offerings on one of these? I've got one here that's useless, as I can't access a few sites ( linkedin being the most important ) with the latest available NZ firmware. Cheers, Steve
Re: ADSL/router recommendations?
Roy Britten wrote: I'm about to make a burnt sacrifice of my D-Link DSL-504T - no matter what options I set it consistently leaves itself open to the world for SSH, web admin, and telnet access. The only thing that will save it is someone pointing me to some decent (Linux) firmware that I can run on it, where decent is minimally defined as secure, robust and configurable. Failing that, I'd appreciate pointers to ADSL modem/router hardware known to be reliable and easy for a Linux chap to administer. A web interface is fine, and a decent commandline facility would be a bonus. An ADSL modem with wired _and_wireless_ router capabilities would be a definite plus, as I can then get rid of the DIR-300 that has plagued me since SWMBO bought it. Thanks all, Roy. OpenWRT should should on it some people report that it's almost the same as this http://oldwiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs(2f)Hardware(2f)D(2d)Link(2f)DSL(2d)502T.html it's still work in progress but I actually haven't found any problems with it. installation is the hardest part I can probably send you a pre build image or something to save on the 4GB of hard drive usage, and not to mention the download time
Re: The linux ipod dilemma - what do you suggest?
Kent Fredric wrote: 8G nano works for me, you need libgpod, but outside that its reasonably well supported. I don't think Libgpod works with the classic or the touch model line I could be wrong though
Re: Motherboard selection
Aidan Gauland wrote: Hello happy Linux users, I am (still) trying to choose a motherboard for a new machine. Instead of asking for general advice, this time I ask if anyone has had any experience, good or bad, with any of these motherboards (or something similar) which I am considering. * Asus P5QL Pro (found it here http://www.dragonpc.co.nz/p.aspx?119710) * Gigabyte GA-EP31-DS3L (fount it here http://www.dragonpc.co.nz/p.aspx?120742) I can't find much information on the web about either of these with regard to Linux compatibility. Should this notice raise red flags? Due to different Linux support condition provided by chipset vendors, please download Linux driver from chipset vendors' website or 3rd party website. Are chipset vendor Linux drivers for motherboards just rubbish? Slowly being driven mad, Aidan Gauland P.S. I wasn't kidding about being driven mad. This is making me crazy. I think I'm going to snap and start a driver hate-website. Maybe it should be a wiki... from what I understand ExpressGate is a linux install on some flash that's planted on the motherboard some where, I'm not exactly sure but that's pretty good reason to say it's linux compatible also Linux drivers should always come included with a kernel, so getting the lastest kernel is probably your best bet also Chipsets have to be x86 compatible meaning they are pretty much standardised and only some things like chipset specific features will have problems like power management, and maybe ethernet drivers My friend has a Asus P5Q which has the same chipset as both motherboards and he's said it's running fine thing about linux compatibility and chipset drivers is I think everyone has taken for granted that it just works, that is why there isn't much on the subject
OpenWrt and D-link DSL-502T gen II
The other day I atempted put OpenWrt on the D-link DSL-502T gen II (telecom issue model) It worked, and is running fine http://oldwiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs(2f)Hardware(2f)D(2d)Link(2f)DSL(2d)502T.html gives intrutions for the gen I model only difference is that it has a different mtd layout (which means the upload script doesn't work) so you need to manually upload it to the flash using an ftp client and adam2 or rewrite the upload script(it's in perl) http://www.seattlewireless.net/ADAM2#ADAM2FTPaccess gives a good explaination of how to upload it, and also read the comments in the upload script they will tell you how to setup the mtds also the build enviroment is like 2GB's so downloading takes awhile also the default firmware(from d-link's website) for the gen II doesn't seam to work so if you do try openwrt probably a good idea to back up a flash dump before hand feel free to ask any questions WARNING: ftp on ubuntu seam to go extremely slow and will take ages to upload, best idea is to backup the webpages and dump them to a local file, then boot in to windows and use it's ftp client DISCLAMER: you can and will brick your modem during this, don't blame me please, just read everything and understand it before you do ANYTHING
Re: New ISP Conclusions
Jim Cheetham wrote: On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Bernard Frankpitt frankp...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: In the end I went for the cable modem option: It is the option offered by my Telstra, and I already have a cable connected to my house. ... When you go to a broadband connection, the ISP controls both sides of the link since they provide you with a stand-alone modem that usually connects to you computer via a TCP/IP link over Ethernet. That is a much easier set of protocols to design to. In addition, it is easy to put a firewall router between the modem and your machines to give you additional security. Just be aware that with Telstra, by default you get a real external IP address bound directly to your computer; if you are not running a pretty aggressive firewall you will now be processing all attack traffic directly on your machine. Of course, the majority of this will be stuff that subverts Windows machines, but some if it will be valid attacks against other services too. Attaching a Windows computer directly to Telstra's service is severely negligent. :-) The Telecom ADSL solution, where there is a NAT layer between you and the Internet run on a separate piece of hardware, is actually nicer from that perspective. I strongly recommend a separate machine of some description between you and the Telstra connection. Just what that is, depends on what you want to do with your new connection ... -jim Ironically your essentially on a Public LAN with your neighbours since your in a 255.255.255.0 (share bandwidth as well) netmask,I used my linux computer to route for my flat mates and I even had connection activity from within the subnet probably a worm (This mite be even more fun than an unsecured wireless network :P) and also your Choice in ISP was probably the only one you could choose Since your phone line is Telstra and they don't supply DSL over it and a help full tip, remember to throttle your P2P upload bandwidth, my friend accidentally clocked up a +$40 (or was that 40GB, can't remember) bill with his 2Mbit/s upload speed
Ubuntu, ATI fglrx, AIGLX, and Xv
I've been having problems with Xv while using AIGLX on an ATI card ( X800XL ) using the fglrx driver has anyone else? have you been able to fix it?
Re: Slightly OT: ADSL routers...
OK.. So my ADSL router died, and my spare is useless.. I had a Dlink 504G outside my pfsense firewall, (Note, FOSS reference...) with a bunch of servers inside the firewall, ie: multiple pinholes in the ADSL router. The spare I had sitting here, a Dlink 504T only supports one IP address for a virtual server/pinhole.. ARGH. how is a router suppose to portward the same port to two (or more) different IP addresses? or am I missing what you mean? I had a 504G, and my 502T can do anything it can do, you mite have to add an IP to the list of IP's in the portward menu, also the 502T can run openwrt on it it mite be worth a try putting it on the 504T, another Idea is to put the pfsense in the DMZ and use that to portforward to the other servers the pfsense is probably faster as well
Re: Slightly OT: ADSL routers...
On Saturday 09 August 2008 6:37:13 pm yuri wrote: 2008/8/9 Daniel Hill wrote: The spare I had sitting here, a Dlink 504T only supports one IP address for a virtual server/pinhole.. ARGH. how is a router suppose to portward the same port to two (or more) different IP addresses? or am I missing what you mean? I think you're missing what he means. Different ports to different servers, eg port 80 to his web server, port 25 to his mail server. Yuri according to portforward.com the 504T can do this fine, I have the 502T which has the same webUI by the looks of it, and it's possible just it's just a bit obfuscated, compared to the 504G
Re: OT: NSS, Outer Space and such Geek Extreme Sports
NSS as is the national space society? I read some stuff about the now defunct L5 Society http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society actually they were merged so, I'm interested Hi. I've just sent off a request to the NSS in the States to become a member and set up a Chapter in Christchurch. It's a geek extreme sport, or so it would appear from reading all the stuff on Slashdot, to pontificate about the exploration of Outer Space, the big bad governments messing it all up, etc., and I decided I'd join up and do something in concert with others. Is there anyone else who would be interested in joining with me and setting up this proposed NSS chapter? (FWIW, I'm going to join as a student, because that is what I am at the present. ;) At the very least, we could have pleasant evenings at restaurants and prolonged discussions over beer ... Wesley Parish
Re: Acer Aspire One - 1024x600, 8G flash, NZ$600
On Saturday 02 August 2008 3:21:44 pm Nick Rout wrote: On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Daniel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I wonder is how long it will take till some one gets pissed that these various lockdowned devices don't comply with GPL then we mite see how well GPL stands in a Court of Law what makes you think that they are not complying with the GPL? Several hardware companies have been sued over Busybox, but all of the suits seem to have ended in a settlement - favourable to the copyright holders by all reports. Being locked out of your own install of Linux sounds like it's the opposite of what GPL is all about, too me it seams like it's been Tivo-ed or however you would put it, too bad no one uses GPL3 yet disclamer, I haven't read the GPL
Re: Acer Aspire One - 1024x600, 8G flash, NZ$600
What I wonder is how long it will take till some one gets pissed that these various lockdowned devices don't comply with GPL then we mite see how well GPL stands in a Court of Law The good: Nice screen, 95% keyboard, 1kg The bad: Poor battery life (only 2 hours, not a patch on Asus Eee). The dodgy: We've also tried calling Acer up to see if they could release the root password to us as we needed it to install a suitable video player but they were unable to do so. http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=14id=2619 http://tastech.co.nz/details/258447.htm I believe the Tastech offering has 512M RAM.
Re: CherryPal
the OS/firmware probably lacks DMA which wouldn't help the DSL-502T(which I've got) runs linux on it, and I've now ported it to OpenWRT, and I remember reading some where that they don't have dma, or at least dma for usb working yet Don't. Further reading has revealed that this class of device has extremely low throughput (over both SMB and FTP) - in the case of the DI-624S, only about 500k/sec. Newer devices, eg. Asus WL-600g, still deliver less than 2M/sec. About 5min to download a 512Mb card.
Re: CherryPal
last time I looked at building a Geode router it was gona cost $500, that's alot cheaper Cheap, fast, good. Choose any two. Seriously though, mini-ITX boards are a good base to build your own small, fanless, Linux appliance. Yeah, but then you've got the hassle of mini-ITX powersupply etc. ALIX boards from PC-Engines or sokeris boards are a better bet. I'm considering an ALIX board from nicegear.co.nz to build some appliance type device myself: http://nicegear.co.nz/single-board-computers/ They do one with three ethernet ports on it, and it can run an imbedded linux like voyage linux on a CF card, or (like I want to) you can stick a microdrive in them and run a full linux distro off a 12V wall wart and only 5 watts rather than the 50-80 that a mini-ITX does. The 500Mhz ones are good, fast enough, and reasonably cheap at $240. Just my 1c worth. :-)
Re: CherryPal
Work in progress on openwrt, well that's only for the first revistion http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware#head-23aceae4ab1f4a2fe1e171cd55b5875b624dc2eb Oh and does it even work with Linux? I don't see that mentioned.
Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.
This is was intended to state that you should be able to use the Neo FreeRunner on the telecom network On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 04:55:05PM +1200, Daniel Hill wrote: I've been to the telecom shop in the palms and asked if it was possible to change a vodafone phone to their network and the guy said not yetand that was on the 6th of july but you can buy global mode phones already are they dual gsm/cdma phones? Telecom's GSM network is still under development, the stated release date has always been end of 2008. The CDMA network will apparently be supported until at least 2012. -jasper
Re: OpenMoko Open Source / Linux / Hackable cellphone is on sale now.
I've been to the telecom shop in the palms and asked if it was possible to change a vodafone phone to their network and the guy said not yetand that was on the 6th of july
Re: screensaver on my tosh...
sounds like it's gone in to suspend and doesn't come out, I have the same problem with the fglrx Proprietary ATI drivers first test suspend if it happens again you mite have to disable suspend in ubuntu and/or BIOS or find what's making it crash I've just upgraded my old Tosh lappie to Ubuntu HH. After leaving it to it's own devices for a while, it looks like the screensaver ( or some other kind of power management ) has kicked in, and the screen is blank. And is obstinately staying that way, no matter what I do. If I press the power button, I'm rewarded by a flash of disk activity, but that's as far as it goes! Any idea how to bring it back to life, other than holding the power button in for 5 seconds to crash it??? Cheers, Steve
Re: Ubuntu server
I've never used the server edition but I'm sure it doesn't come with X The Desktop version would probably need more configuration disabling the desktop features and would take more HDD space up Quote form the website On the desktop you have a full set of productivity, internet, drawing and graphics applications, and games. On the server you get just what you need to get up and running and nothing you don't check out this http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition and this http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/desktopedition Hello there, I am about to install an Ubuntu server on a virtual setup and I am wondering whether anyone who has had experience with setting up Ubuntu servers can give opinions on whether it is better to just install a desktop version and install what is required or install the server version? - Does the server version just exclude X or is there a some other stuff that it offers for a production server? - Does Ubuntu server offer server set-up tools that I should know about? - Would the desktop version be a big problem for a server? Visit our website at http://www.crop.cri.nz __ CAUTION: The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential. If you read this message and you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of all or part of the contents is prohibited. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. Any opinions or views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not represent those of their employer.
Re: Ubuntu server
the desktop kernel is configed tickless so the 250Hz setting means nothing, any one know if the server version has tickless kernel?? $ cat /boot/config-2.6.24-19-generic | grep HZ # CONFIG_HZ_1000 is not set # CONFIG_HZ_300 is not set CONFIG_HZ=250 # CONFIG_HZ_100 is not set CONFIG_HZ_250=y CONFIG_MACHZ_WDT=m CONFIG_NO_HZ=y here more info http://kerneltrap.org/node/6750 Important kernel differences too: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/preparing-to-install.html
Re: Openmoko
doesn't telecom work with GSM now? On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 8:43 AM, John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After many delays... the SMT lines are rolling and the OpenMoko open linux phone has gone into mass production. Sales to open shortly. Finally the vapour around Open Linux mobile phones is dispersing and I'll soon be able to get my sticky fingers on one. One would be nice, but you appear to be ahead of any announcement on the openmoko.com website! Can you tell me if they will be CDMA (ie telecom) compatible?
EEPROM and coreboot
anyone know where to get an EEPROM for a backup BIOS chip?
Re: Slow performance from Dell Laptop
Biggest users of the processor are exaile (30%%) pulseaudio (13%), how well does Amarok run? in comparison since exaile is basicly a GTk copy of amarok funny thing is I already got sound working perfectly with out pulseaudio
Re: uBrowser
it looks to me like a standard web page rendered (using gecko) as a texture to a cube, not a 3D web page doesn't look much different than compiz fusion's cube effect. quote from the page Its primary purpose is to help me integrate Gecko into my company's software - a 3D virtual world called Second Life so basicly it's so you don't have to leave the game to browser the internet Anyone heard of this: http://www.ubrowser.com/ ? A few of my first thoughts on it... HTML on steroids thought you meant a 3D extension to html, now if you setup a html render that used z-index to give it a 3rd dimension Ok, great, now we've got 3D graphics designers trying to make the Internet too artistic (no offense to people who like to give their web pages a little eye candy) ;-) Hey, they beat Microsoft to adding Aero to the web browser! So now we have a THIRD dimension for people to clutter with advertisements?! Just thought I'd share one of my accidental findings. -Aidan
Re: Streaming wma on Hardy Heron?
have you got w32codecs installed? grab them from here medibuntu.org or add this to your sources.list file deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ hardy free non-free 1. Try and open it in totem and totem should downlaod any necessary codecs; or 2. use mplayer -dumpstream -dumpfile mystream [url] to dump the stream, then use ffmpeg -i and midentify to see what the format and codecs are and report back. Can't find my library card at this juncture. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:22 PM, Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know how to persuade the Hardy Heron to play the music in the Naxos library which I am told is a wma stream? http://cccpl.naxosmusiclibrary.com.libezp01.slc.ac.nz/default.asp# You'll need a Library card with a pin to open that url. I have loaded the mplayer essential codecs, and the plugger, but so far it's not working. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: uBrowser
Processingjs looks pretty cool still slower than flash tho even in firefox 3 On Mon, 19 May 2008, Aidan Gauland wrote: Anyone heard of this: http://www.ubrowser.com/ And I thought the blinktag/blink was irritating! A whole raft of things are emerging that make one say, oooh, cool... at first http://ejohn.org/blog/processingjs/ http://docs.jquery.com/Tutorials:Live_Examples_of_jQuery ...and then say ... Bah, it's just blink all over again in after thought. I'm sure I'm doomed to irritated since so few people get as far as afterthoughts. Still processingjs is based on http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/HTML:Canvas which may yet produce useful rivals to flash in such genuinely useful domains as... http://www.swivel.com http://www.gapminder.org/ John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Zealand
Re: lightweight linux distros
Steve Holdoway wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2008 16:27:04 +1200 Kerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm after a fairly specific *nix distro. I want to run a server/test machine and would like a disto with the following attributes Small (the machine only has a 2gb hd) Runs the kde desktop Uses RPM as a package manager Anyone got any thoughts as to what I should try out? Regards, Kerry dsl (http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/) springs to mind ( extend the base install as you require ), but I worry about getting kde into 2GB, given that I expect there to be similar limited memory - larger swap space recommended. DSL is debian based last time I checked You might be better off rolling your own jeos - I've heard Novell offers the best toolkit - I've only used the HH one as a starting point to a vmware virtual machine. hth, Steve
Re: Mixed-mode CD
On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Daniel Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri 16 May 2008 17:05:37 NZST +1200, Douglas Royds wrote: I tried burning an audio + data CD with the following command: cdrecord -v -eject dev=/dev/cdrw -audio -pad *.wav -data filename.iso I see on http://linux.about.com/od/nwb_guide/a/gdenwb01t82_3.htm that they put the data and audio options the other way round: cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data cd_image -audio track* The data is required to be track 1, the remaining tracks may be audio. I believe I did this once and it worked. Volker I read some where that that's how it has to be, but how do the record companies get data on after the audio have you ever noticed that? (this is where sony hides there auto run file which installs that root kit) there's also about a 2mm visible gap in the data on the CD perhaps it's multi session?? Don't take this the wrong way, but you do realise that the first track on a CD is on the INside (ie the opposite to the old fashioned black albums). yes I once wrote a data + audio CD with Nero and it played the data as audio. but with the record company CD's they do not play the data part on the same CD player. the 2mm gap is also close to the other edge
Hardy USB Storage Problems
anyone else having this problem? $ dmesg [ 4006.463410] ohci_hcd :00:02.0: leak ed f7fa9280 (#81) state 2 [ 3605.284548] usb 2-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5 [ 3605.417679] usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 3605.424095] scsi13 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [ 3605.432291] usb-storage: device found at 5 [ 3605.432295] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning [ 7225.965006] usb-storage: device scan complete [ 7225.966002] scsi scan: INQUIRY result too short (5), using 36 [ 7225.966010] scsi 13:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB 2.0 (HS) Flash Disk 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS [ 7225.980733] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] 1993649 512-byte hardware sectors (1021 MB) [ 7225.982725] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off [ 7225.982731] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 00 c0 00 00 [ 7225.982734] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 7225.990709] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] 1993649 512-byte hardware sectors (1021 MB) [ 7225.992705] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off [ 7225.992710] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 00 c0 00 00 [ 7225.992713] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 7225.992719] sdc: unknown partition table [ 7226.008614] sd 13:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk [ 7226.008665] sd 13:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0 and more importantly got it fixed? just got a DSE mp3 player 1GiB for $30 can't put any songs on it :( also something happens with an iPod and a DSE flash drive $ sudo modprobe -r ehci_hcd doesn't seam to do anything any Ideas?
Re: Hardy USB Storage Problems
I mean SAMEthing happens also something happens with an iPod and a DSE flash drive
Re: Hardy USB Storage Problems
$ sudo mount /dev/sdc /media/mp3player/ seams to work actually $ sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /media/flash-stick/ and now to see why I get a window that says Cannot mount volume. Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume... comes up
Re: Hardy USB Storage Problems
I snooped around gconf-editor and in this key /system/storage/default_options/vfat/mount_options it had an option called usefree. I search through the mount man page and came up with nothing about it, so I removed it and it now is working, weird Now to visit s1mp3.org and start hacking my mp3 player
Re: Asus Eee PC 900 - first impressions
I was wonder where did they put the speakers? I just managed to get hold of an Asus Eee Pc - one of the new ones with a 20gig SSD (Linux version) a 8.9 1024 screen. Just arrived yesterday. Got it from a eBay seller in Hong Kong - goes by the name of cc-electronicshk. I probably paid through the nose... AUD620 plus freight. It arrived only 4 days after I ordered it which is pretty impressive. Frankly, I think it's stunning. The form factor is exactly the same as the model 700. But if you saw one, you'll remember there was a large 'bezel' around the screen, and the screen itself didn't use all of its pixels (I guess that's the technical term...). With the new version, the screen is physically the same size, but it fills itself right out to the edge. I get the sense they always intended to go bigger but just didn't make it in the first version. Looking at it, there might even be room for them to make the screen bigger by reducing the plastic bezel, so I guess that could happen in the futuer. The screen is a good size now (no horizontal scrolling of web pages), and it's sharp and bright. The keyboard is the same as the 701. Yes the keyboard is small and I wouldn't want to be typing on it all day, but I've found it quite useable. It will be great for travelling. Earlier this morning I sat in an easy chair having a coffee while updating a Word document and it was fine. The mouse pad is clever too with some 'gestures' which after less than 24 hours of getting used to, I already find handy. What I like about it is the way everything just works out of the box. The supplied desktop is nice - just a collection of big icons to launch applications and various common web sites. Functions keys and buttons are nicely mapped. The only limitation I've seen so far with the factory OS is that you can't just install any new software you like - only stuff supplied by Asus (and that doesn't seem to be much). I guess it could be hacked, but I think it will be easier to just install a fresh Ubuntu without all the Asus stuff over the top ... but then I'm not sure if the key mappings will be as tidy. I'll give it a go some time and see what happens. I'll bring it along to the next CLUG meeting in case anyone wants to drool ;-) - David
Re: Linux Jobs
I'm actually doing a course in Network Engineering at Computer Power, but I'm off on sick leave and contemplating weather I should carry it on, or just get a job. I was also thinking perhaps part time job and course. but getting a good part time job is hard ^ What John said. Spot on. ( Although if you're after linux stuff, C is probably better than C#! ). yeah I did C# at school (Christchurch College of Computing) at my course I'm I get to choose between C or Java programming, if only they let me do C++ or Obj-C then I could learn both Objective and Low Level Programming
Linux Jobs
Hi, My name is Daniel I'm 19, I'm a Linux geek, I have no formal qualifications I'm kinda lost at the moment. anyone got any ideas for what I could do for a job? I'm willing to learn, I know a little bit of C#, and willing to learn other languages rather not go back to school I know Hardware as well (who doesn't? :P) Thanks
Re: I'm officially grumpy! Audiobooks for visually impaired.
should have provided a link. http://wiki.s1mp3.org/Swan_proposal#Users.27_Interface sorry Rock Box has voice support http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceHowto and the cheap DSE mp3 players have a opensource firmware that mite have Voice in the future
Re: I'm officially grumpy! Audiobooks for visually impaired.
Rock Box has voice support http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceHowto and the cheap DSE mp3 players have a opensource firmware that mite have Voice in the future
