Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 17:15 +1200, chris wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 20:06 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:03 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 19:29 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 June 2010 19:17, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: snip most of the X ugliness is revealed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://amlc.berlios.de/ It just works. IME not always. In fact there must be a change in X if it is not working now and did in a previous edition. Look for the wrong/non existent edid in the log file. snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data After following the suggestions offered, I downloaded -compiled the script, which worked and gave me new modes etc. However, there is no edid information in the xorg.log files. Also in the preferencesmonitor gui, it only offers Default monitor, and all other options greyed out. I have after some work obtained the edid information for this monitor, a Viewsonic wms wide 22. I used the viewsonic edid.exe program on the XP partition of this box to obtain the edid information. (As an aside, this programme will not run under Vista);but I am stuck at this point as to how to get it into the system. Also, just to check there is not a hardware issue, I installed Linux mint 10, into am Asus p4, that I have hanging around. Same result, and the same limited resolutions. Further suggestions more than gratefully appreciated, as my 70 year old brain is nearly at its limit. (Moans, Oh why could I not have stayed with CPM?) regards Chris T I haven't got anything at all in my xorg config ( 10.04 ). I used to, when 1400x1050 was a weird size, but that was years ago. Do you have a VX2233wm? If so, that's a native 1920x1080 resolution. As long as you're talking to it digitally it should just work. Are you using the proprietary drivers? I must admit to doing so, but I stick with nVidia these days... http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide provides a fair overview of all the available options. It contains the line By default there is no configuration file (xorg.conf) for X anymore, so X will try to do the right thing. so it must be offering a simpler solution! I'd go the propietary fglrx driver route, hopefully just selecting the ATI accelerated graphics driver via the Restricted Driver Manager. Good luck (: Steve -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 17:38 +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 17:15 +1200, chris wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 20:06 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:03 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 19:29 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 June 2010 19:17, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: snip most of the X ugliness is revealed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://amlc.berlios.de/ It just works. IME not always. In fact there must be a change in X if it is not working now and did in a previous edition. Look for the wrong/non existent edid in the log file. snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data After following the suggestions offered, I downloaded -compiled the script, which worked and gave me new modes etc. However, there is no edid information in the xorg.log files. Also in the preferencesmonitor gui, it only offers Default monitor, and all other options greyed out. I have after some work obtained the edid information for this monitor, a Viewsonic wms wide 22. I used the viewsonic edid.exe program on the XP partition of this box to obtain the edid information. (As an aside, this programme will not run under Vista);but I am stuck at this point as to how to get it into the system. Also, just to check there is not a hardware issue, I installed Linux mint 10, into am Asus p4, that I have hanging around. Same result, and the same limited resolutions. Further suggestions more than gratefully appreciated, as my 70 year old brain is nearly at its limit. (Moans, Oh why could I not have stayed with CPM?) regards Chris T I haven't got anything at all in my xorg config ( 10.04 ). I used to, when 1400x1050 was a weird size, but that was years ago. Do you have a VX2233wm? If so, that's a native 1920x1080 resolution. As long as you're talking to it digitally it should just work. Are you using the proprietary drivers? I must admit to doing so, but I stick with nVidia these days... http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide provides a fair overview of all the available options. It contains the line By default there is no configuration file (xorg.conf) for X anymore, so X will try to do the right thing. so it must be offering a simpler solution! I'd go the propietary fglrx driver route, hopefully just selecting the ATI accelerated graphics driver via the Restricted Driver Manager. Good luck (: Steve Hi Steve, Further update. The monitor is a 2235wm, and for some reason I am under the impression that the native mode is 1680x 1050. However,because of a couple of other matters that weren't right I pulled the hard drive, which was suspect and getting very hot:-(, and did a complete reinstall of 10.04 using a new 160gb drive. As I needed to keep SWMBO happy I uncoupled the box from my KVM switch and set it up with the Viewsonic as a standalone system. (Boy am I learning things the hard way)! Bingo, it picked up the monitor and the edid information and immediately settled onto the 1680x1050 resolution. Also in the gui, it shows the full range of resolutions, and the monitor name etc. So the problem apparently is the KVM switch. (which has not been an issue up until this release). Question now is How can I set this as the default resolution so it will choose it when I boot up using the KVM? The only thing I can think of is to set up and xorg.conf Any ideas? I will however download the fglrx driver and install that. An overnight job by modem. Also the hardware drivers gui, does not show any drivers when you activate it. It just says no propriety drivers on this system. Idea's? cheers chris t
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
I will however download the fglrx driver and install that. An overnight job by modem. im fairly shure you card is only supported by the legacy version of fglrx also i generally recommend avoiding it like the plague... i think something like this: Section Monitor Identifier DVI-0 # or whatever yours is Option PreferredMode 1680x1050 EndSection in xorg.conf should do the trick
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 00:48 +1200, aaron wrote: i think something like this: Section Monitor Identifier DVI-0 # or whatever yours is Option PreferredMode 1680x1050 EndSection Many thanks, I shall try that today. get back to you regards Chris T
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
As a footnote to this I've been told right or wrong that the xorg.conf should be put in /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d directory. At least that's where I put my xorg.conf for a touch screen monitor I've got. but suppose it wouldn't matter too much if it's put in /etc/X11 directory either. Take what you want from this posting. Dave. - Original Message Follows - On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 00:48 +1200, aaron wrote: i think something like this: Section Monitor Identifier DVI-0 # or whatever yours is Option PreferredMode 1680x1050 EndSection Many thanks, I shall try that today. get back to you regards Chris T
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
chris wrote, On 06/23/2010 07:52 PM: As I needed to keep SWMBO happy I uncoupled the box from my KVM switch and set it up with the Viewsonic as a standalone system. ... Bingo, it picked up the monitor and the edid information and immediately settled onto the 1680x1050 resolution. Also in the gui, it shows the full range of resolutions, and the monitor name etc. So the problem apparently is the KVM switch. (which has not been an issue up until this release). So the KVM switch is filtering out the EDID info. Get a better KVM switch. Novaview and Rextron ones work well. A four port PS2 switch with OSD is about $200+ A four port USB switch with OSD is about $220+ 2 port ones are available, but they don't do OSD or chaining. Cables are normally extras too, in case they're a part of your existing KVM. You can get 8 and 16 port ones too, but they're getting really pricy. Interestingly - some KVM switches support dual monitors now. Another option is to buy a new separate monitor and lose the KVM switch completely - probably quite similar costs. -- Craig Falconer
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 11:45 +1200, Craig Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 06/23/2010 07:52 PM: As I needed to keep SWMBO happy I uncoupled the box from my KVM switch and set it up with the Viewsonic as a standalone system. ... Bingo, it picked up the monitor and the edid information and immediately snip switch. Novaview and Rextron ones work well. A four port PS2 switch with OSD is about $200+ A four port USB switch with OSD is about $220+ 2 port ones are available, but they don't do OSD or chaining. snip completely - probably quite similar costs. Hi Craig, what I actually did, was follow an x-org template sent by Aaron (I think) and add the preferred mode into that, so it is now working fine through the switch. Just for your info, there were two issues. One was a flaky hard drive which I have consigned null The other the Kvm switch. Also on the ubuntu forum =technical support, a number of heads have popped up with the same kvm issue, or looking for solutions. I need to read man xorg and work out how to include a driver section to finish the whole thing off. However for now working and nearly completely resolved. And SWMBO is happy. On a personal note, how is the land rover? We are still wandering around the landscape Cheers Chris Thomas
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 11:57 +1200, chris wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 11:45 +1200, Craig Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 06/23/2010 07:52 PM: As I needed to keep SWMBO happy I uncoupled the box from my KVM switch and set it up with the Viewsonic as a standalone system. ... Bingo, it picked up the monitor and the edid information and immediately snip switch. Novaview and Rextron ones work well. A four port PS2 switch with OSD is about $200+ A four port USB switch with OSD is about $220+ 2 port ones are available, but they don't do OSD or chaining. snip completely - probably quite similar costs. Hi Craig, what I actually did, was follow an x-org template sent by Aaron (I think) and add the preferred mode into that, so it is now working fine through the switch. Just for your info, there were two issues. One was a flaky hard drive which I have consigned null The other the Kvm switch. Also on the ubuntu forum =technical support, a number of heads have popped up with the same kvm issue, or looking for solutions. I need to read man xorg and work out how to include a driver section to finish the whole thing off. However for now working and nearly completely resolved. And SWMBO is happy. On a personal note, how is the land rover? We are still wandering around the landscape Cheers Chris Thomas A final solution is to just use remote X and a headless box. I know that 10.04 seems to have destroyed that option for some reason... X :1 -query remote ip then Ctrl-Alt-F8 and ..F7 to swap displays was so simple in a pure *nix environment. vnc is also another alternative. I do have a KVM switch lying around, but it's analog... Cheers, Steve -- Steve Holdoway st...@greengecko.co.nz http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz Skype: sholdowa smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 12:21 +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 11:57 +1200, chris wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 11:45 +1200, Craig Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 06/23/2010 07:52 PM: snip A final solution is to just use remote X and a headless box. I know that 10.04 seems to have destroyed that option for some reason... I had no problems with this set up until 10.4, which is why it bit me. X :1 -query remote ip then Ctrl-Alt-F8 and ..F7 to swap displays was so simple in a pure *nix environment. Uhm that would be nice, but I do need to dual boot one of the machines into another operating system. (Being discreet here) vnc is also another alternative. I do have a KVM switch lying around, but it's analog... is that an advantage or a disadvantage, would be willing to try it Cheers Chris Cheers, Steve
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 20:06 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:03 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 19:29 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 June 2010 19:17, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: snip most of the X ugliness is revealed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://amlc.berlios.de/ It just works. IME not always. In fact there must be a change in X if it is not working now and did in a previous edition. Look for the wrong/non existent edid in the log file. snip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data After following the suggestions offered, I downloaded -compiled the script, which worked and gave me new modes etc. However, there is no edid information in the xorg.log files. Also in the preferencesmonitor gui, it only offers Default monitor, and all other options greyed out. I have after some work obtained the edid information for this monitor, a Viewsonic wms wide 22. I used the viewsonic edid.exe program on the XP partition of this box to obtain the edid information. (As an aside, this programme will not run under Vista);but I am stuck at this point as to how to get it into the system. Also, just to check there is not a hardware issue, I installed Linux mint 10, into am Asus p4, that I have hanging around. Same result, and the same limited resolutions. Further suggestions more than gratefully appreciated, as my 70 year old brain is nearly at its limit. (Moans, Oh why could I not have stayed with CPM?) regards Chris T
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Clugers, I am hopeful someone on the list can assist me with this issue. Hardware HP Workstation P4 Video Card Sapphire Radeon x300se Viewsonic led Monitor native resolution 1600x1200 Under Ubuntu 8.04 I had no graphics issues at all, running the ati radeon opensource driver resolution 1600x1200. Since I Upgraded to 10.4 I can only get 1200x1048 on the Viewsonic monitor. However If I plug in my old Sony I can choose 1600x1200. I spent hours reconfiguring xorg reading the man pages for xorg, and xrandr, all to no avail. Also googled extensively with out any workable answers Any help greatly appreciated most of the X ugliness is revealed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On 18 June 2010 19:17, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Clugers, I am hopeful someone on the list can assist me with this issue. Hardware HP Workstation P4 Video Card Sapphire Radeon x300se Viewsonic led Monitor native resolution 1600x1200 Under Ubuntu 8.04 I had no graphics issues at all, running the ati radeon opensource driver resolution 1600x1200. Since I Upgraded to 10.4 I can only get 1200x1048 on the Viewsonic monitor. However If I plug in my old Sony I can choose 1600x1200. I spent hours reconfiguring xorg reading the man pages for xorg, and xrandr, all to no avail. Also googled extensively with out any workable answers Any help greatly appreciated most of the X ugliness is revealed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://amlc.berlios.de/ It just works. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 June 2010 19:17, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Clugers, I am hopeful someone on the list can assist me with this issue. Hardware HP Workstation P4 Video Card Sapphire Radeon x300se Viewsonic led Monitor native resolution 1600x1200 Under Ubuntu 8.04 I had no graphics issues at all, running the ati radeon opensource driver resolution 1600x1200. Since I Upgraded to 10.4 I can only get 1200x1048 on the Viewsonic monitor. However If I plug in my old Sony I can choose 1600x1200. I spent hours reconfiguring xorg reading the man pages for xorg, and xrandr, all to no avail. Also googled extensively with out any workable answers Any help greatly appreciated most of the X ugliness is revealed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://amlc.berlios.de/ It just works. IME not always. In fact there must be a change in X if it is not working now and did in a previous edition. Look for the wrong/non existent edid in the log file.
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 19:29 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 June 2010 19:17, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Clugers, snip most of the X ugliness is revealed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://amlc.berlios.de/ It just works. IME not always. In fact there must be a change in X if it is not working now and did in a previous edition. Look for the wrong/non existent edid in the log file. edid? excuse my ignorance can you elaborate please
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 19:23 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: On 18 June 2010 19:17, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Clugers, ,snip http://amlc.berlios.de/ It just works. Thanks will let you know how I get on regards Chris T
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:03 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 19:29 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 June 2010 19:17, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Clugers, snip most of the X ugliness is revealed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://amlc.berlios.de/ It just works. IME not always. In fact there must be a change in X if it is not working now and did in a previous edition. Look for the wrong/non existent edid in the log file. edid? excuse my ignorance can you elaborate please http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data
Re: resolution Problem Ubuntu 10.4
On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 20:06 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 8:03 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 19:29 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Christopher Sawtell csawt...@gmail.com wrote: On 18 June 2010 19:17, Nick Rout nick.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:54 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings Clugers, snip most of the X ugliness is revealed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://amlc.berlios.de/ It just works. IME not always. In fact there must be a change in X if it is not working now and did in a previous edition. Look for the wrong/non existent edid in the log file. edid? excuse my ignorance can you elaborate please http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_display_identification_data Thank you Nick I will look it up immediately regards Chris T
