[ILUG-BOM] Gnome under KDM possible?

2007-01-28 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
i log into KDE? Sachin G. Nambiar -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Console based movie player

2007-01-23 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
I googled for an alternative solution but couldn't find anything useful. since you are installing ubuntu 5.04, try installing automatix for 5.04 and install w32 codecs. worked for me.. Sachin G. Nambiar -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] broadband problems

2007-01-19 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Yep! MTNL hai toh sahi hai bhai!! Aaj hi register karo aapka connection!! Call kijiye 1500 pe! Ab internet surf karna aur bhi aasan aur bhi sasta!! hehehe... don't you just love the market economy?? :) Sachin G. Nambiar Indian Pneumatic Hydraulic Co. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows

2007-01-17 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
such a strong term! :). Will you hate Infosys/WIPRO/TCS? We are straying away from the topic though .. Sachin G. Nambiar Indian Pneumatic Hydraulic Co. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows

2007-01-17 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
What should I do to make the switch? I need your suggestions. I wish to quit windows..now warning: shameless self promotion but trying to help! i run a weblog which logs my conversion to ubuntu. it might just help to go through once in a while. http://bheesh.com/blog Sachin G. Nambiar

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows

2007-01-17 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
smaller/larger player/s change the rules of the game. Case in point FOSS over proprietory software. Sachin G. Nambiar Indian Pneumatic Hydraulic Co. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows

2007-01-17 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
:). Vocally opposing monopolies is somehow not in line with my thinking. Start something .. ha now that is what i totally and wholeheartedly agree with!! ps: apologies for the wrong decade! Sachin G. Nambiar Indian Pneumatic Hydraulic Co. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows

2007-01-17 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
this wasn't the right forum for it! Yeah, let's just help Varadarajan move away from Windows, shall we not? Aren't we? -- Sachin G. Nambiar Indian Pneumatic Hydraulic Co. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows

2007-01-17 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:04:30 +0530, Vihan Pandey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, let's just help Varadarajan move away from Windows, shall we not? Agreed :-) oops .. no more why's from me! Sachin G. Nambiar Indian Pneumatic Hydraulic Co. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Brl-Cad Initial Impressions

2007-01-16 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Can u create macros. yes you can. Sachin G. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Brl-Cad Initial Impressions

2007-01-16 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Linked to the cad section and put up pics of your creation. also mail the developers with specific urgent and essentila changes. http://db.glug-bom.org/wiki/index.php/Brl-Cad-Review, please go ahead and start editing for structure/links etc. It's my first encounter with wiki-editing so

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows

2007-01-16 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
. As an almost newbie; i prefer Ubuntu, http://ubuntu.com. Sachin G. Nambiar Indian Pneumatic Hydraulic Co. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-16 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
. Sachin G. Nambiar Indian Pneumatic Hydraulic Co. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Seek advice to quit Windows

2007-01-16 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
I hate M$, Reliance, and many other organisations and corporation why? Sachin G. Nambiar Indian Pneumatic Hydraulic Co. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-15 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Agreed. I guess a lot of people are currently using Aseems argument or similar ones to criminalize FSF or OSS philosophy. Aseem has presented it in a more civil manner. Most people dont do it. Laws are in place to check exploitation and to guard the freedoms that we have. Without these laws

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-15 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Bottom line - rethink your business model - based on unlimited availabilty and creation of knowledge rather than brain dead methods of coercion, packaging and distribution. business models change as the markets force it to. Not really dependent on any singular individual i.e. assuming

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-15 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
At the free map workshop I happened to interact with a participant Who is the HOD of civil engineering in a Ludhiana college. He has already evaluated brl cad and qcad. Qcad does not have 3d and the free version does not have pline dimensioning. The paid version costs Rs.800/- which is

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-15 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
in which case i am inclined to ask - Sachin are you opposed to distribution as a whole or gratis distribution only? did not intend to reply anymore..since you asked ..distribution only. Sachin G. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-15 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
snip So it benefits you as well as empowers the people with software thats affordable and customizable and expandable. Regards, Rony. Well put. I have to agree to whatever you have said from a business perspective. just don't make the guy who does not give allow you to distribute the

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-14 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
The aim of the copyright law is not to protect originator but to promote progress of science and useful arts. Get your basics right. So don't think authors have any natural right to their work. It is granted by the goverment so as to benefit the public. Now is that fair? That the

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-14 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
here starts the confusion. copyright != patent. Please find out the difference. no confusion .. everything in it's place as long as the message has gone across even if not in agreement. no - when you 'buy' doze, you have practically no rights whatsover - check the EULA who said

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-14 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Nobody compels you to release it as Free Software, but don't insist you want to call it Free Software and still being able to restrict the user of the fundamantal Freedoms. Is anyone infringing upon Microsoft's moral rights because they release non-free software. We said we will show you

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-14 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Rights to what software ypu were talking about? lets liken the software to a tangible product. If i buy it don't i have a right to do whatever i choose to with it. i think i have that right with windows too but MS denies me the right! :/ I can choose to modify a particular software and

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Re: Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-14 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Sachin wants to modify a FOSS license to suit his thinking. He will have to choose a non-FOSS license that suits him. Its like a club. You like it, you join it. If you like another club, join that club. You cannot take the rules of one club and impose them on another. true Rony except i

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:59:09 +0530, Philip Tellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometime Today, SGN cobbled together some glyphs to say: If Kcalculate provides the code along with the software it's FOSS alright. Freedom to change code, need not be to distribute. Where did you learn that? I

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:01:52 +0530, Philip Tellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometime Today, SGN cobbled together some glyphs to say: AS i mentioned before, IF .. .. i was just wondering for a sec if FOSS said anything about not being able to distribute. :) These are easily verifiable

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
So the brickbats roll in my turn to *sigh*. I have clarified my stand in another mail under the same head! I disagree on some points but i also agree on others .. Sachin G. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
LOL! So nice of you and hats off to your attitude! Nobody says you shouldn't keep things to yourself and not share, but for such a great attitude FOSS is not your base and we are not your brethren. Here the rule is simple, you get the freedom if you are ready to give the same to others,

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
If you are not a subscriber to FOSS philosophy then why talk about it and the freedom what we all think as our life-breath. You are talking to a community which thrives for Freedom. Please don't insult our passion with such comments. My intention was not to insult, just a disagreement

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Please note that the FOSS ideology does not work out economically with retail software. FOSS earns big/mega bucks through support and customization. Yes i know and this was the only bone of contention. If i make a software and sell it to you and also give you the source. Mere pet pe laath

Re: [ILUG-BOM] There's a couse at MUM Univ. teaching GNU/Linux!

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
now i want to build my carrer in GNU/Linux only. well i want 100 marks examination for Linux and not 50 marks. :-) I think the biggest mark you get in the long run will be when you learn enough in your chosen field to command your price. Be it Linux or windows or any field. just my HO :)

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Does that tell you something about FOSS? Its power to the USER. As long as it does not take power away from the maker. Sure ... more power to the user. Sachin G. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
what is piracy? stealing of software? how can you steal software? can you steal air that you breathe? is software property? If i have a dosai and give you my dosai, now you have a dosai and i dont. If i have source code and give it to you, we both have source code. Frankly I fail to see

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-12 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:06:16 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12-Jan-07, at 10:05 PM, Sachin G Nambiar wrote: So the brickbats roll in my turn to *sigh*. I have clarified my stand in another mail under the same head! I disagree on some points but i also agree

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-11 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 12:53:01 +0530, jtd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 06 January 2007 00:53, Sachin G Nambiar wrote: Autocad/Studioworks or any other as good opensource/linux variant. http://brlcad.org/ Thank you very much. Sachin G -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-11 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Do keep us posted on any evaluations you may do. I will but not sure if iam qualified for it but i know someone who is and is currently using autocad in the unit. Sachin G. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-11 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
people with enought money and resources do add a kick ass feature you also now would that be fair? I think using, changing is ok because it's my right! Since iam concerned about my right am also concerned about the right of the maker. There are just too many parasites out there in the

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-11 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
And how exactly do you propose to change that. U see the guys who are attacking your business model dont care about your code. They want the binary. by not allowing sharing of the code but full rights to change and modify it as they please. If your business model is screwable rest assured

Re: [ILUG-BOM] [OT] Postal estamps with emails.

2007-01-11 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
e stamps? And go back to the snailmail mail days?? Why do we need to complicate our lives furthur? Sachin G. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] There's a couse at MUM Univ. teaching GNU/Linux!

2007-01-11 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
The course is not much of a problem really; it's the way it is executed and evaluated that is faulty. This is so true. It's the way things are taught. It's like word of mouth marketing. If you really like it you would not just teach it for money but would like to talk about it anyways

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-10 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
i would say HIGHLY not FOSS. In fact their website has a wonderful disclaimer : If Kcalculate provides the code along with the software it's FOSS alright. Freedom to change code, need not be to distribute. Sachin G -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-10 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Mate, READ the disclaimer they have written on their website before quickly defending them and quoting FOSS philosophy. AS i mentioned before, IF .. .. i was just wondering for a sec if FOSS said anything about not being able to distribute. :) Sachin G --

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-10 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
FOSS actually does imply the right to modify and distribute. Shouldn't the term freedom be restricted to modifying the code? If a coder has to earn a living using principles of FOSS then the clause about free to distribute should be removed don't you think? Sachin G. --

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-07 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
:) Regards, Sachin G. Nambiar PS: Am more or less a linux newbie .. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-06 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Will GnuCash do? No it won't but thanks anyways.. -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers

Re: [ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-06 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
How many clients are there in total? Using thin clients will be a good option for the users. Also, the users can be trained on the use of Open Office and Linux based e-mail clients. Training in my own experience has been very difficult, people almost immediately seem to compare it to their

[ILUG-BOM] Opensource for a Small Manufacturing unit

2007-01-05 Thread Sachin G Nambiar
Hi, Am going to work in a small manufacturing unit with a T.O. of around 9cr. Currently they do have a few desktops(un-networked) with pirated copies(based on discussions i doubt they know the difference and i want to change that) of Windows XP installed. By their roadmap and current