My development schedule, including overtime, is booked through
November, but if I were going write something in REBOL, I'd start with
a Web site control panel, or an enterprise portal, especially ones that
looked great in a browser and fantastic in VIEW. Still new ground to
cover on those
Howdy, Ted:
Isn't one of there an Open Source mantra about running
around spreading FUD? (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) ;-)
*grin*
-jeff
On 9/22/2000 at 8:51 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are starting to sound a little disheartened in your recents
posts.. :-(
Oh,
Hi,
the day before I left for my business trip, I answered to Bo's email
sent to Phoenix ml asking why evyryone talks MS C# but not REBOL/View,
so let's start with it:
...
... Time to leave after four years of loyality?
...
Sadly,
-pekr-
Very nicely written Pekr! I guess I can only
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The short and the long of what I want to do is take latitude and longitude
coordinate pairs and interleave them with each other.
The rational behind this is to place objects that are physically close to
each other in the real world close together in computer memory,
Mark Dickson wrote:
Project 2 - REEMACS
As the name suggests the intention here is to create an advanced
extensible editor environment written entirely in REBOL built on a REBOL
interpreter. View GUI versions Command versions could be developed later.
In short REEMACS would be a state of the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Dickson wrote:
Project 2 - REEMACS
As the name suggests the intention here is to create an advanced
extensible editor environment written entirely in REBOL built on a REBOL
interpreter. View GUI versions Command versions could be developed later.
In
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And making REBOL open source would likely lend to its popularity as well.
But, as far as I know, Python and PHP are not businesses.
They dont have to be. PHP and python programmer, as well as perl programmers,
make money on making applications
I am just wondering if anyone out there is willing
to share an e-commerce type application example utilising the rebol objects
described in the Rebol Press Book - Rebol 'The Official Guide'.
Specifically I am taking about the
db-manager.r, db-navigator.r, mediator-object.r,
Hi,
I
found a bug (at least I think so), can't remember the part, but it had something
to do with actors and actor ... the big block with all the actors were named
actors but in the book it said actors first, but in the end it was called actor
... or summat .. :) ... I'll try to look it up
On 9/21/2000 at 10:22 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't one of there an Open Source mantra about running around
spreading FUD? (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) ;-)
I know you're kidding me Jeff, and that you and the others in the
trenches are doing your best, but, since the door's been opened, I
Hi Rebelists!
can some one help me with my CGI problems? I can´t get them to run without
REBOL asking for READ/WRITE access. I have tried using REBOL -cs. Do I have
formulate the REBOL call to " REBOL -cs %s" ? or something of the sort? I
am using Win98 with the XITAMI webserver ( Core 2.3 )
Hi Sharriff
can some one help me with my CGI problems? I can´t get them to run without
REBOL asking for READ/WRITE access. I have tried using REBOL -cs. Do I have
formulate the REBOL call to " REBOL -cs %s" ? or something of the sort? I
am using Win98 with the XITAMI webserver ( Core 2.3
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All that happens is that people like Elan, Gabrial, Lemir, and Joel
don't waste time ruminating about how REBOL is implemented.
"ruminating" -- Wow! I though I was just guessin' ! ;-)
-jn-
Here are some ideas I've had a long time for a much needed
application. I think Rebol could do it.
There are probably tens of thousands of big-time eBay sellers now. If
their average product sells for $10 or so, and it takes at least 1/2
hour to handle all the steps in each sale, they will be
Hey, this is a great idea! It's not like they're Apple and giving away free
hardware. They're just giving away binaries. Throw in a few Dummies books and
the price goes up, sure, but this is really a great idea.
yes. I think rebol should attact educational market before python beats them
to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Dickson wrote:
Project 2 - REEMACS
As the name suggests the intention here is to create an advanced
extensible editor environment written entirely in REBOL built on a REBOL
interpreter. View GUI versions Command versions could be developed later.
In
It might provide some visibility when thousands of ads and emails
read "ReBay - Powered by Rebol". And thousands of new people would be
downloading Rebol to use it, and maybe seeing what else Rebol can do.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said at Ò[REBOL] eBay manager programÓ.
[Sep/22/2000Fri 08:46]
-Here
Howdy, Ted:
[re: FUD]..
And, I don't think it's FUD to offer candid advice with
specific suggestions for change.
Naw, my intention was not to rebuke your efforts toward
calling it as you see it. Just the feeling was a little
demoralizing and ominous the way it comes across on my
Will someone please direct me where to find the doc re: standard
REBOL End User License agreement?
Thanks,
Geo...
Hi,
today I was contacted by chief editor of prestigous Czech programmers
magazine Softwarove Noviny (Software magazine - http://www.softnov.cz). Mr.
Minarik contacted me because I offered him QNX RtP article some time ago.
So - I've got 12000 chars wide space for describing RtP, and
Dear Andrew,
At present there is no software (at least not in my possession).
It is currently "dreamware". The question is whether Rebol can do it in a
scalable distributed fashion.Terra Server uses this method to store
locations in their database. It is called a "Z" transform. There is no loss
I must agree your "tapping the keg" scenario was probably was a
considerable factor in the earlier years. I believe we all agree REBOL
could use a killer app too.
What is the next killer app? Don't know. Napster is the current. This
makes me think...
Gnutilla is currently wounded from
I plan to develop a collaborative work environment tool with REBOL.
There is nothing done yet, so that if some of you want to join me
please contact me.
Jochen Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Fre, 22 Sep 2000 schrieben Sie:
Gnutilla is currently wounded from growing pains, Napster's fate
Here's an idea for a breakthrough REBOL application (forgive me if
this already exists, since I do not normally go shopping for these
sorts of things):
I work for a support services company and we use several tools to
operate the support center. We have a problem tracking application
which
On 22-Sep-00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If old good pekr can make it, maybe more of us can
make it. It seems to me world is starting to be interested in new solutions.
Why not take the oportunity?
One step at a time, as they say.
Good luck, Petr.
--
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Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED]!
On 22-Set-00, you wrote:
p I just wonder one thing. If old good pekr can make it, maybe
p more of us can make it. It seems to me world is starting to be
p interested in new solutions. Why not take the oportunity?
I'm just waiting to have enough free time to write an
Hi Petr, Hi Jano,
I believe that many things Petr said make a lot of sense ... to a degree.
There are two competing, equally valid views of REBOL:
- REBOL as a new tool to do NEW things.
- REBOL as a new tool to do OLD things.
Your criticism of RT's approach is based on the view of REBOL as a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And making REBOL open source would likely lend to its popularity as well.
But, as far as I know, Python and PHP are not businesses.
They dont have to be. PHP and python programmer, as well as perl programmers,
make
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that in Carl's mind (well, I really don't know what's going in
Carl's mind other than what I conclude from his design of REBOL) REBOL is
intended as a tool to do NEW things in a new way. Things that have not been
done because before, because the OLD tools
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 8:47 PM
Subject: [REBOL] The day before, the day after, time to leave? ... Re:(2)
Hi Petr, Hi Jano,
I believe that many things Petr said make a lot of sense ... to a degree.
There
I have a few questions about some of the suggested programs that we
volunteers should make.
Collaborative Work Environment Thing: Instant messaging and file
sharing is great, but can REBOL multitask or fakytask well enough to
make this work???
REMACS: I like the idea of emacs clone thats
SNIP
I think that in Carl's mind (well, I really don't know what's going in
Carl's mind other than what I conclude from his design of REBOL) REBOL
is
intended as a tool to do NEW things in a new way. Things that have not
been
done because before, because the OLD tools did not inspire doing
Amen, Elan.
It's an uplift to hear those thoughts expressed. Focus on the new:
peer-to-peer, collaboration, dialecting, new concepts in user interfaces,
design of custom protocols, knowledge management etc. Heck, I'm not nearly
as excited about the network protocols supported by REBOL as I am by
Would like to do an equivalent of tail function of Unix under Windows. Is
there any straight way to do that easily in Rebol ?
I hope to contribute more efficiently in rebol list in a few month when I
will know rebol better.
Thanks.
With companies like Register.com enticing everyone and their
brother, dog, and grandmother to "register" their own domain, there
will be increased demand for simple Web site building solutions.
Tools like Microsoft Front Page are not the answer because the user
still needs to use FTP and to
Would like to do an equivalent of tail function of Unix under Windows. Is
there any straight way to do that easily in Rebol?
Can you describe what the tail function does please?
I hope to contribute more efficiently in rebol list in a few month when I
will know rebol better.
Welcome to the
If the file is small enough to read it all into memory the solution is too
simple. Due to the nature of why one uses tail in the first place, though,
that scenario is too good to be true. What you would have to do is open a
port on the file, go to the end of the file (would 'tail work for file
tail is a UNIX-program that shows the last lines of a file.
You can use it also to incrementally show the growing output
of a log-file.
But... what I not understand is why we should have such a tool written in
REBOL??? Is the original not good enough?
Am Fre, 22 Sep 2000 schrieben Sie:
Thanks to Gabriele and others, who re-lit my dim bulb to the fact that
find block1 block2 select block1 block2
are looking for the first SUBSEQUENCE of the first argument equal to
the second argument, whereas
find/only block1 block2select/only block1 block2
are
As a follow-up to the previous post, I also put together a function
library equivalent to the OO version. (I know this is reinventing
the wheel, but I wanted total equivalence for reasons that will be
made clear in the following post.)
-jn-
REBOL [
Title: "Minimal Associative Data Store -
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that in Carl's mind (well, I really don't know what's going in
Carl's mind other than what I conclude from his design of REBOL) REBOL is
intended as a tool to do NEW things in a new way. Things that have not
Send an email to:
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The RebMail architecture:
http://www.egroups.com/files/Rebmail/Docs/rebmail-arch.html
Andrew Martin
ICQ: 26227169
http://members.ncbi.com/AndrewMartin/
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--
Once upon a time [EMAIL PROTECTED] spoketh thus:
...
And... *g* There's one thing I've been missing all the time!
Why are there no full names in the sender entry of the mail header???
You'll recall that before SELMA took over the list, there *were* full
names in the header. Ingo and I
We should not invent thousands of new protocolls for a collaborative
environment. Why not using FTP,HTTP,MAIL, IRC and so on in a highly
integrated manner.
1) The notion of "Personal Space" and "Group Space":
I do not want to know where my globally accessible files
really are stored. I want to
Geo... wrote:
Will someone please direct me where to find the doc re: standard REBOL End
User License agreement?
license
REBOL TECHNOLOGIES BETA SOFTWARE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT
This Beta License Agreement ("Agreement") is a legal contract...
I hope that helps!
Andrew Martin
ICQ:
Speaking of new stuff and new areas where rebol might be used...
Hows the status on IPv6 support, multicasting and other new technology
still mostly unused? I whish MiamiDx could get IPv6 in soon, I'm on a
IPv6 test net (3FFE:) and we'd love more toys to play with.
-- kolla
You'll recall that before SELMA took over the list, there *were* full
names in the header. Ingo and I discussed the "problem" and even had
some solutions; none of mine ever got worked through enough to submit
to RT for inclusion in Selma (or REBOL itself).
...
Hi Kev,
my
Collaborative Work Environment Thing: Instant messaging and file sharing
is great, but can REBOL multitask or fakytask well enough to make this
work???
Multi-tasking was described as one of next things to go into Rebol by Carl
recently.
Using care and messaging and queues, one can
RChristiansen wrote:
Imagine a support application which features the following:
-problem tracking, including work history, problem coding, contact
management, and reporting accessible through the LAN, WAN, and Internet
-integrated e-mail functions
-integrated chat functions
-integrated
Question:
Would it be better to use a central-server for the collaborative
envrionment like "ICQ" or should we use a more decentralized approach.
(E.g. by using IRC to find the other participants and then create direct
connections?)
Depends on how it would be used.
If the application would
I was interested in assessing the overhead cost of an OO version
of ADS versus a function-library version, and so wrote the
benchmarking script attached below.
It creates a block of key strings used by all of the tests (which
also all re-seed the random number generator to the same starting
I can see some potential here for small business and individuals that dont
get significant traffic, creating a REBOL a la CGI web site builder and
manager. Wrap up the best of CGI. Market it to ISP's and register.coms? If
it reduces ISP tech support calls, they may be happy to distribute it.
If anyone is interested I'm working on distributed
agent based simulation systems - enabling you to host
a large single discrete event simulation over a number
of networked PC's. The networked pc's provide a
common simulation environment and the agents are
mobile within it (meaning they can
For application proliferation purposes, not requiring a server would help out
alot.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question:
Would it be better to use a central-server for the collaborative
envrionment like "ICQ" or should we use a more decentralized approach.
(E.g. by using IRC to find the
Those interested in baking absolutely should see what they got cooking over at
the RebMail project. There is much that can be learned from it. Since email
is step 1 of a collaborative work environment, those set on doing that should
help them out.
http://www.egroups.com/group/Rebmail
--Ryan
As I was examining the great discussion
on Associative data storage
{ http://rebol.org/userlist/archive/387/143.html},
I got to thinking how nice it would be to have a bit more control
over exactly what functions were stored when an object was saved and
what was used to recreate the object when
Yes, I'm very interested. Where can I find out more? Sounds like a
Linda implementation in Rebol, which I have been looking forward to
seeing since I first heard of Rebol.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said at Ò[REBOL] New Stuff Re:Ó.
[Sep/22/2000Fri 19:41]
-
- If anyone is interested I'm working on
Am Sam, 23 Sep 2000 schrieben Sie:
Hi folks,
Hope you can help...
I'm doing some parsing and want to match against any character except a
quote.
Is there some charset magic where I can do this?
cset: complement charset [#"'"]
Regards
Jochen
Here's a few notes I had on other suggested improvements to SELMA. Most
of them aren't my own.
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On 9/22/2000 at 7:58 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I plan to develop a collaborative work environment tool with REBOL.
There is nothing done yet, so that if some of you want to join me
please contact me.
I can't offer to do any coding right now, but here's a description of
my favorite
Or...
nonquote: complement charset {"}
if you meant everything except standard quotations marks.
-jn-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi folks,
Hope you can help...
I'm doing some parsing and want to match against any character except a quote.
Is there some charset magic where I can
Am Sam, 23 Sep 2000 schrieben Sie:
For application proliferation purposes, not requiring a server would help
out alot.
Yes this is why I would prefer such a solution. I think I do not relly like
the centralisitc approach.
I also dislike conservative client/server paradigms.
I would prefer a
On 9/22/2000 at 1:41 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Web Site Control Utility: These type of things are growing in
popularity, the next killer app? Could be. I could see this being
easy
to create with REBOL as well, of course depending on how in depth you
wish to go. Could you explain more about
On 9/22/2000 at 11:47 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which problems in a corporate context are not being tackled with
existing technologies because of the limitation inherent in these
technologies? Can REBOL be used as a basis to provide solutions to
problems that are not being tackled because it
Hi All,
Educational Software: Once again another tick for collaborative work
environment.
This is the one I would vote for! Of course my main reason for exploring REBOL is to
create such a beast so you could say I'm a bit biased. :-)
All of the ideas I've seen floated so far for the killer
The following are results from the latest round of benchmarking, with
all numbers normalized to the measurements for nsh.r (the first,
straight-forward, no-optimization-tricks version I wrote). I'm using
that one as 1.0 because I believe it to represent the kind of code
a not-too-subtle REBOL
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