| +-...
+-...
There's even a tree diagram showing the same kind of structure in the
CSS 2.1 spec.
http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/conform.html#user-agent
Alternatively, you can use the DOM inspector in Firefox which shows that
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useless HTML markup :-). Why not just send text/plain?
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(and Opera 8.53), but still in very bad
shape. Overlapping boxes, obscured text - pretty unprofessional, in
my book.
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the page. Of the following, if your screen reader were reading out
links, which would you rather hear:
1. _click here_, _click here_, _this page_, ...
2. _elephant enclosure_, _monkey habitat_, _dinosaur exhibit_, ...
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http://lachy.id.au/log/2005/05/script-comments
Although this wasn't mentioned in that article, use this in XHTML instead:
script type=text/javascript//![CDATA[
//]/script
Oops, typo. Requires 2 square brackets ']'.
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http://lachy.id.au/log/2006/01/content-type
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regular copyright laws, then go for it.
Any standards issues?
Beyond the use of RDF or other markup to declare it, it really has
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Can you provide a reference to back up this claim?
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are not what they are said to be or what they seem.
And I thought irony was what my mum does to get the wrinkles out of my
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has absolutely nothing to do with web standards. You should contact the
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, as appropriate) and then use
stylesheets to style them in any way you want.
i have thought of using a div tag instead of a span and making the width auto,
Don't use either if you can avoid it, always use appropriate semantic
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I did read a that is it supposed to speed up links or something.
No, it does no such thing. Where did you read that?
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though.
In IE, a chain of pseudo-classes is not handled correctly.
e.g.
a:hover:visited is incorrectly treated the same as a:visited
a:visited:hover is incorrectly treated the same as a:hover
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page 2 uses: ul id=links
(Just assume there would be a semantic reason for using a different
element on different pages)
3. It may just be an authoring convention.
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Kat wrote:
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...I don't believe WCAG 2.0 is nearly as bad as he makes it out to
be.
I believe its worst crime is the language that it uses [...] overly
complex and convoluted writing (Not too different from Academese).
An accessibility document such as WCAG 2.0 is best
. Although the idea seems similar
to the intention of the WCAG Samurai, but I would much rather prefer an
open process that anyone can get involved with.
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The advent of WCAG 2 and it's apparently almost impossible to
understand language makes me wonder if there's any mileage in writing
something similar to the MACCAWS Kit but with meeting Accessibility
Standards in mind.
I
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if some bots do send different UA strings, this script relies on a false
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There are various techniques used, such as:
1. Writing the e-mail with JavaScript
2. Encoding characters using percent-encoding in mailto: URIs
3. Encoding characters as HTML character references.
4. Interspersing markup within the e-mail address.
e.g. userspan#x40
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
The simple fact is that no solution will be completely foolproof.
It's like the problems with CAPTCHAs. Spammers continually work to
find workarounds for them and nothing you do will be 100% effective.
Mike's article gave me an idea; but I don't
Thierry Koblentz wrote:
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The simple fact is that no solution will be completely foolproof.
It's like the problems with CAPTCHAs. Spammers continually work to
find workarounds for them and nothing you do will be 100% effective.
Mike's article gave me an idea; but I don't
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
There are various techniques used, such as:
1. Writing the e-mail with JavaScript
2. Encoding characters using percent-encoding in mailto: URIs
3. Encoding characters as HTML character references.
4. Interspersing markup within the e-mail address.
e.g. userspan#x40
/serialization/Chapter06.html
http://hixie.ch/advocacy/alttext
http://www.htmlhelp.com/feature/art3.htm
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I recommend everyone (at least those participating in this thread) read
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at all, I'd go with an empty alt attribute and no title. For all 4 of
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Similarly, from DocA and DocB, you could link to contents.html like this:
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Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:
Here is the write-up: http://mikecherim.com/gbcms_xml/news_page.php?id=7
Here is the experiment:
http://mikecherim.com/experiments/css_map_pop.php
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Interesting. Did you consider developing a system that makes use of
the map element?
I did note it lacks some backwards compatibility
From the spec:
| Note. MAP is not backwards compatible with HTML 2.0 user agents.
I think that can
properly, you never need to manually include
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for that matter. Then you've still got many other UAs to consider, like
mobiles, search engines, etc.
IMHO, XHTML 2 is effectively irrelevant these days. The work on (X)HTML
5 from the WHATWG looks a lot more promising, with far more features and
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could do the same
thing in HTML, since it's a valid SGML construct. But, although it's
supported in XML, support for it in HTML is virtually non-existent and,
in current browsers, results in ] being output as content.
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You never need to include index.html in the path when there's a web
server being used. You only need to do so when you're reading from the
local file system, but in that case linking relative to the root doesn't
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On 10/09/2006, at 7:34 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
Firstly, pixels are not absolute units, they are defined as relative
units. Although this is a very common misconception, try not to get
confused about the terminology.
I thought the definition of px as a relative unit
psuedo-elements, as defined in CSS 2.1.
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Is there somewhere a list of what/how IE interperates html/css
differently from, let's say Firefox? And how to make a page work in both?
http://positioniseverything.net/explorer.html
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soft in presentation, not function, which is why it was not included
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Perhaps that's a category to itself, though.
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to use the more structured DOM methods where possible, but there are use
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View this in WebKit browsers only. (Hence the subject of this post):
http://decaffeinated.org/archives/projects/multibg/background-image.html
Yeah, WebKit implemented that a few months ago. It's the new
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Firefox does not use WebKit, it uses Gecko. You need to use Safari,
or some other browser based on WebKit, to view it.
Is Gecko planning on supporting this in version 1.9?
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322475
Can anyone take pity on us without
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I have the Swift_0.1.msi installer if anyone wants it.
Felix, I would like a copy of the msi.
It was I, not Felix, who has it. I received a couple of requests for
it, so I put it up online.
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an error, it can be ignored. Triggering full standards mode is
considered more important than a minor validation error that has no
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[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar
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John Faulds wrote:
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Looks like that article's gone missing.
AH!!! I have no idea what has happened to it, it was definitely
there when I sent the link. I'm sure I've got a back up, so I can
restore it, I'll see what I can do.
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John Faulds wrote:
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Looks like that article's gone missing.
AH!!! I have no idea what has happened to it, it was definitely
there when I sent the link. I'm sure I've got a back up, so I can
restore it, I'll see what I can
be able to achieve the effect using the
'direction' and 'unicode-bidi' properties.
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I need to include the following in a class name (for use in a
microformat):
class=urn:lsid:ubio.org:namebank:530114
Which microformat? That's a URI and so a more semantic place
dialogue is generally frowned upon because dl is
widely considered to be for marking up definitions. Tantek has provided
a more semantic example of in a old presentation of his.
See XHTML Compound: Conversation.
http://tantek.com/presentations/2005/03/elementsofxhtml/#slide22
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Rob O'Rourke wrote:
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Using dl for marking up dialogue is generally frowned upon because
dl is widely considered to be for marking up definitions. Tantek has
provided a more semantic example of in a old presentation of his.
See XHTML Compound: Conversation
Kay Smoljak wrote:
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That's a very bad way to look at it. Just because a page validates,
does not mean it's bug free. If something doesn't work in Safari or
Opera 9, then there's a good chance that the problem is with your code,
even
you need to test in all for free.
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My apparent popularity is irrelevant, we're all equals here. I really
didn't mean to be aggressive. However, having re-read what I wrote, I
can see how it could be taken that way, and for that, I apologise.
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[1] http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/166
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The browser vendors also have the user's best interest in mind. They
don't want to spend their time implementing new features that won't
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See this CSS.
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It works because em units compound, so each nested em is 1.03em bigger
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Perhaps I'm missing something, but why not use h2, h3, h4, h5
etc to mark up a tagcloud ???
Because tags aren't headings. Heading elements shouldn't be used to
denote importance or emphasis, they should be used for headings.
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a program called , http://www.softexe.com
...and your money. Search engines don't pay attention to them anyway.
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it in the URI in the address bar. Considering it gives the desired
behaviour, I wouldn't worry too much. It's just a bug in IE that can be
ignored and there's nothing you can do to fix it anyway, except filing a
bug report.
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. It is not practical for browsers to start
rejecting such content because to do so would break an infinite number
of legacy pages for users.
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