God question, Anthony. In absence of any evidence anywhere of making
thumb picks for lutes,, I would highly doubt that this was done.
ed
At 08:46 AM 2/8/2008 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote:
Ed
I am still surprised that the long nails succeeded in marking
through the strings. Does anyone
Jaroslaw
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Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota -
another thought
Ed
I am still surprised that the long
08, 2008 8:46 AM
To: Edward Martin; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martyn Hodgson
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Edlinger Lutes in South Dakota -
another thought
Ed
I am still surprised that the long nails succeeded in marking
through the strings. Does anyone know of guitare players leaving
similar marks
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I agree, but would
No trouble at all, Martyn.
Yes, the marks clearly indicate that it was played as a 13 course lute, as
I have been saying. It shows a hundred or so thumb nail marks near the
rose, and the corresponding marks from finger playing while in this
position. Also, if one were strumming with a
Ed
I am still surprised that the long nails succeeded in marking
through the strings. Does anyone know of guitare players leaving
similar marks?
Do you not think that the luthist might have invented some sort of
extentions to his fingers? These things could be made by anyone.
Look at
Once again, I doubt it very much. The marks are clearly made from playing
a 13 course lute. And, it is documented that the instruments were in the
castle attic for a very long time.
ed
At 08:46 AM 2/7/2008 +, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Thanks for this. Well if not 'Wandervogel' as such
Anthony, and all,
I knew I would open up a can of works with these observations. There are
many, many possibilities. We do not know if the original lutes were bass
lutes, or if they were archlutes, or if they were theorbos, or if they were
actually new lutes by Edlinger. The evidence seems
Interesting Ed. It is true that is these are just surface scratches,
they could have been erased.
As you mentioned a long nail, I though they might be thin but deep.
However, it would be rather strange for a nail to mark though the
strings right up to the diapasons.
One
player played close
At 01:40 PM 2/6/2008 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote:
Interesting Ed. It is true that is these are just surface scratches,
they could have been erased.
As you mentioned a long nail, I though they might be thin but deep.
However, it would be rather strange for a nail to mark though the
strings right
Good idea, but no, absolutely unlikely. They were documented to be in
storage, and were removed for observation in 1907, when a Heckel looked
at them, and put back into storage in the castle..
ed
.At 01:57 PM 2/6/2008 +, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Thank you for this.
Just a thought, but
Great question. The answer is simple. It would have been strung with a
standard treble, in the usual fashion. I have not worked out what the top
pitch would be - certainly _not_ f at 415, but perhaps at d at 415. The
whole instrument would have been about a minor third lower, so the lowest
Amen.
ed
At 04:29 PM 2/6/2008 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote:
I am also struck by the small number of lutes that actually are
copied now; and when we think that extant lutes are such a small
number of the great variety that once existed, I can't help thinking
that this is further restricting the wide
I really do not know. It is possible that it could have been in that
tuning. These instruments were in the possession of a noble family, and it
is not known if the family members played them, or if they had professional
musicians on staff. Obviously big baroque lutes were built by Edlinger,
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