[LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-27 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Slip of the finger! I'll forward this to the general list. rgds Martyn Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martyn, Your message was sent off-list. You make points which maybe others would be interested in? Stuart Martyn Hodgson wrote: Good points Stuart but

[LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-27 Thread Stuart Walsh
Martyn Hodgson wrote: Good points Stuart but interestingly, in the hundreds of sacred cantatas to which Telemann wrote a gallichon part (in staff notation), the part can be much more florid than the general (bowed) BC line: in short reflecting the two instruments perceived strengths

[LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-27 Thread chriswilke
Hi Martyn and Stuart, I'm not at all familiar with these gallichon parts. I've been curious, however - do these parts consist of an ornamented version that mainly follows the bowed bass or is it more independent? Does the the part do a little of both in different sections? Like Stuart,

[LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-23 Thread Stuart Walsh
A 78cm 10c bass lute in D (presumably Renaissance tuning?) - wow - that sounds like fun. Wish I had one. Wish I had a gallichon in A, 95cms. Wish I had an archlute. I do have an 11c - not designed for powerful continuo playing - a baroque guitar - not suitable for Bach's bass lines - and a

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-22 Thread LGS-Europe
Rob wrote: I've just been thinking about Bach's bass lines (not the lute/violin/cello suites) and the impossibility of playing them as written on either a baroque lute (either swan or bass rider), an Italian theorbo or a German Continuo theorbo - only the Gallichon seems capable, and even

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-22 Thread Rob MacKillop
Mimmo sent me an interesting idea. He agreed that I could forward it to you guys. I think Martyn holds a similar position? Rob Silk bass strings like the 19th c guitars Rob. My point of wiwe of course This is why I think that the Gallicone was so suitable on bass line and powerful. My idea is

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Yes, my view is indeed that the gallichon/mandora (both the A and the D/E size) always used overwound strings and were perhaps even developed especially to make use of these, then newly invented, strings. I'm afraid tho' that this is pure speculation since I've no evidence for it other

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
enough to send over some mandora music for us to try out on the instrument. Not sure-is there a difference between a mandora and gallichon? Are gallichons usually bigger than mandoras? Sterling Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines Despite what the Barbarous Barber might say, Martyn

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines Rob, I'd be happy to lend you my large single strung gallichon in A for a few months if you could pick it up and arrange insurance etc. regards, Martyn Rob MacKillop wrote: I've just been thinking about

[LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-22 Thread Stuart Walsh
Rob MacKillop wrote: Despite what the Barbarous Barber might say, Martyn is a very talented man - he made his own gallichon, and is also a leading scholar in the world of the gallichon, and although I've never heard him play, I'm told he is a fine performer too. Maybe he would make you one,

[LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-22 Thread David Tayler
Bach's bass lines play beautifully on an archlute or theorbo with one or more extra courses fretted; with 7c fretted at low C you are covered, and 8 courses either F+C or D+C is a very nice sound. Even with one extra course at D you are covered with a scordatura C sharp in the few pieces that

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-21 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Rob, I'd be happy to lend you my large single strung gallichon in A for a few months if you could pick it up and arrange insurance etc. regards, Martyn Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just been thinking about Bach's bass lines (not the lute/violin/cello suites)

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-21 Thread Rob MacKillop
There's a thought. I'll write to you privately, Martyn. Rob On 21/02/2008, Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, I'd be happy to lend you my large single strung gallichon in A for a few months if you could pick it up and arrange insurance etc. regards, Martyn -- To get on or

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-21 Thread Dale Young
. Dale - Original Message - From: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Baroque-Lute baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines Rob, I'd be happy to lend you my large single

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Bach's bass lines

2008-02-21 Thread Rob MacKillop
Despite what the Barbarous Barber might say, Martyn is a very talented man - he made his own gallichon, and is also a leading scholar in the world of the gallichon, and although I've never heard him play, I'm told he is a fine performer too. Maybe he would make you one, Dale? If not, I'm sure most